FX FX Airguns DRS Pro: How Significant is This Really?

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MadCowCrazy2 said:
It's a $300-500 gun in a €1600 chassi so I'd guess $1999-2399 or some such.
I might consider buying one just to get the chassi if it's cheap enough.
The gun itself seems really cheap to manufacture as there are much fewer parts.
The biggest price on an airgun is time spent on the mill, if there are tons of parts to make the gun will be more expensive.
In this case there seems to be very few parts: Body, trigger mechanism, picatinny/dovetail mount, bolt and probe mechanism, liner, airtank shroud with end cap and plenum magazine.
On the other hand there seems to be close to $1000 in upgrades available for the gun at launch. Tungsten hammer and CF barrel shroud seems like a must to me. I don't get why they don't come with tungsten hammer to begin with, it's like a $5 part for them.

I'd be happy if it was $1999 and disappointed if it was over $2500.
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I wonder if the bare gun will fit other chassis?

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Firewalker said:
I wonder if the bare gun will fit other chassis?

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In the video it was mentioned that the chassis that it was mocked up in was made for a Remington 700(?) And was heavily modified by cutting and grinding sections out of the chassis. So I would assume it is loosely based on that rifle if I remember the model correctly, sorry I know nothing about powder burners.

Allen
 
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newhobby said:
I don't know much about air guns. This forum has been an encyclopedia of knowledge. I've been following your technical posts and you seem like a fairly competent gunsmith/modder. But clearly you are an idiot when it comes to R&D, manufacturing and production. Of course FX is in the business of making money. Do you think any of this comes cheap? I challenge you to set up a facility to make 1/1000th of these air guns for $300-$500 🤣
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I got the price details for the DRS today and here are 2 examples.
FX DRS Pro MDT 700: €2875
FX DRS Classic Synthetic 700: €1025

This is the MSRP in €uro. I can't reveal the price for retailers but I'm sure you can find it somewhere, lets just say my quote of "It's a $300-500 gun in a €1600 chassi" is almost correct. A more accurate number would be a $500 gun in a $2500 chassi, I'm confident most retailers would say this is pretty accurate.
I have no idea about the manufacturing cost of the gun but I think it's around $300 at most without the chassi.
As for the chassi cost it seems to be extremely high on the Pro, you can buy the FX Classic synthetic version and the ACC Elite Chassi for cheaper than the cost of the DRS Pro MDT 700. They seem to be charging around $2500 just for the chassi which I find to be quite absurd.

It's an extremely overpriced chassi, I don't really understand what they are thinking as all it is is a modified version of the ACC Elite chassi.
 
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But seriously, what am I to believe?

Here's some stats from the website of my country's biggest and probably best retailer Krale:

Fx DRS DMT Pro :
Energy (Joule / ft.lb)58 / 42.7, 97 / 71.5, 98 / 72

So, 97 Joule/ 71.5 Ft.lb in .22

Fx DRS Classic Walnut grade 2:
Energy (Joule / ft.lb)61 / 45, 119 / 87.7, 126 / 93

So 119 joule/87.7 ft.lb in .22.
But this gun is LESS THAN HALF the price of the DMT Pro. With a 16.1 ft/lb advantage over the DMT Pro.

I know, nature never said the universe has to make any sense , but this to me is pushing it. Severely.
 
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qball said:
Zero chance DRS will take over Panthera/dynamic. It is however an iteration of the dynamic block, DRS stands for dynamic rifle system. This seems fairly clear to me is the lower power platform of the dynamic block and dynamic/panthera/king is the higher end and higher powered dynamic platform. With low shot count alone should be enough to differentiate, but obvious can’t count out a bottle adapter to add a bottle in the future. This is aiming squarely at Dreamline/wildcat segment to me, meaning 1000-1500 dollar range with the exception of the chassis.


To OP’s original question of is it significant, saw a lot of comments on both side but mostly negative. Yes, it is a departure and personally I really dislike the fake mag or real gun look, I really do. BUT the internal change with simplifying the internals while still making it adjustable even though it’s not a simple dial anymore is awesome and very significant. There are Tons of FX haters that complains about the moving parts, complexity, reliability Nd number of orings which has some truth to it, this new design should eliminate all that. Most FX owners don’t turn the dials like i do, so simplify features that doesn’t get used much while still have the options to fine tune the gun is amazing!

Obviously the real question is will this gun be significant enough for me to buy it to replace my Dreamline? For me the answer is not yet, I really want to see the DRS gets a field target chassis then I’ll order the sub12 version immediately! Still keeping my dynamic, compacts, Dreamline compact, crown……they are just too much fun as legos. I do see this replacing my Dreamline for FT since I don’t change anything on it.
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How many shots in your 12fb dreamline per fill?
 
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Caliber 22 said:
What is wrong with a 800mm barrel? What other issues will it cause?
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800mm barrel is good with the lighter slugs and lower power settings. With heavier slugs and high power comes more barrel whip. Plus with the fx straw system there is more harmonics involved since the projectile spends more time in the barrel. I have 800 mm barrels in 22, 25 and 30.

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I hope the pro doesn’t have the same reliability problems as the standard version. My shooting partner has had a refund after his drs was sent back for repair twice within a month and another friend of his drs has also developed the exact same fault and is currently back for repair for the second time☹️.

I am not 100% sure but I believe it to be either an o ring or firing valve issue.

Bb
 
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Caliber 22 said:
That is one of the reasons I will not buy a modern FX. A proper barrel will have less whip / harmonics and be easier to control and less POI shift. Plus all the reports of leaks and other problems with this drs it makes it a big no-no for me.
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I wonder why these "proper barrels", are not winning more major, long distance events?
Caliber 22 said:
As I understand it, yes. A light bump and the POI shifts. I never owned a FX but did shoot with some of the older ones with proper barrels which are much better.

My question is, why do FX sell aftermarket stiffer barrels but not build it like that in the first place?
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There is not a barrel on earth, that wont change POI, if you bump it hard enough!
What are you bumping your barrels on?
 
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bob68 said:
But seriously, what am I to believe?

Here's some stats from the website of my country's biggest and probably best retailer Krale:

Fx DRS DMT Pro :
Energy (Joule / ft.lb)58 / 42.7, 97 / 71.5, 98 / 72

So, 97 Joule/ 71.5 Ft.lb in .22

Fx DRS Classic Walnut grade 2:
Energy (Joule / ft.lb)61 / 45, 119 / 87.7, 126 / 93

So 119 joule/87.7 ft.lb in .22.
But this gun is LESS THAN HALF the price of the DMT Pro. With a 16.1 ft/lb advantage over the DMT Pro.

I know, nature never said the universe has to make any sense , but this to me is pushing it. Severely.
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They are both the same platform just dressed differently my classic 700 was right around the 72 ft lbs mark yesterday when I tested it only could get about one magazine worth of shots at that though
 
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Airgun Al said:
I wonder why these "proper barrels", are not winning more major, long distance events?

There is not a barrel on earth, that wont change POI, if you bump it hard enough!
What are you bumping your barrels on?
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Check the Red Panda.....swept 2023 for 100yd 1st place benchrest.

Also have had multiple guns that won't POI shift. AAA Evol, Taipan Veteran and also Edgun R5M. Only way would be to bend the barrel. Mine ride in my truck with me on the farm and get banged and beat up on. There a tool to me and I use my tools.
 
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Dairyboy said:
Check the Red Panda.....swept 2023 for 100yd 1st place benchrest.

Also have had multiple guns that won't POI shift. AAA Evol, Taipan Veteran and also Edgun R5M. Only way would be to bend the barrel. Mine ride in my truck with me on the farm and get banged and beat up on. There a tool to me and I use my tools.
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Yep!,
And what brand finished 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in 2023?
And what brand finished 1st, this year, at the 2024 NAC ?
It wasnt a Taipan, AAA, or Edgun!
https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/2024-northeast-airgun-classic-results.1311304
They are tools to me too, but I dont pound nails with a circular saw.
 
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Airgun Al said:
Yep!,
And what brand finished 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in 2023?
And what brand finished 1st, this year, at the 2024 NAC ?
It wasnt a Taipan, AAA, or Edgun!
https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/2024-northeast-airgun-classic-results.1311304
They are tools to me too, but I dont pound nails with a circular saw.
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All I'm saying is a solid barreled gun beat FXs all last year. And was close second this year also. It used to be all FX mainly in the top 10 now there's quite a few other guns brands there. And alot of the top shooters are sponsored by FX which great choice on FX to do that. As for slug shooters I say FX takes top for now no argument there. FXs are very accurate when tuned correctly no denying that. There great at marketing.
But they aren't known for being rugged and reliable.

And that's also why I don't use an FX and use the guns I use for a reason lol. FX couldn't handle my uses. Except for one of there older guns like Bobcat, Royale or Boss. Or maybe the solid barreled DRS. Interesting how that is that FX is making Solid steel liners to insert there soda straws in on the DRS Elite. Why make it if it doesn't benefit from it? What about the CF tubes, barrel tensioners, and harmonics tuners FXs made to help with the flimsy barrels with POI shifts and finicky harmonic tuning people talk about. Look at the aftermarket for the 3 guns I mentioned to improve shootability? None cause they shoot where there supposed to everytime lol. Maybe not as accurate as a really good FX but all capable of sub MOA groups at 100yds which is all I can ask for. The AAA, Taipan and Edguns weren't made for benchrest but excel at just being great reliable guns that you can pickup always and never question if it's out of tune or POI shifted. I prefer to shoot rather than tinker or twist scope turrets. Glad there's lots of choices out there to keep us all happy.
 
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