FX Crown Trigger upgrade ??

[Fred56]

So I bought this upgraded competition trigger from Europe, it originally comes with the FX Boss, but I’m told it will go into the FX Crown. 
it arrived with no instructions - diagrams - nada !!! Has any one done this to their FX Crown ??? Got some great in-site from a fellow PCP’r Glem Chally !!! But his was not on a Crown !! So chime in and will see how I do !!! 

 

[elh0102]

I installed one on my Royale, and it's a decent trigger, not great, but an improvement. It yields a consistent 6 oz release. There Is a good video by Ernest Rowe, worth watching. If you are generally familiar with trigger function and geometry, you'll figure it out (might take a while, and a bit of good bourbon helps). 

 

[Fred56]

Thanks - now I’ll have to look at the Royale and see the difference to the Crown !!! 
Not my field of work - but I do want a better trigger if I can get it fit !!! 

 

[elh0102]

Thanks - now I’ll have to look at the Royale and see the difference to the Crown !!! 
Not my field of work - but I do want a better trigger if I can get it fit !!! 

The fitment of the Boss match trigger to the Crown and Royale is the same.

 

[Glem.Chally]

I gave you a step by step fred? Did you try any of that?

It doesn't matter it's on a Crown, Royale or Boss (Like I told you via PM). The sear/spring/pins are all identical (Like I told you via PM). Inside the gun as far as the trigger goes is identical! (As you were told via PM) Push three pins out, install sear onto back pin, use second pin as a stop so it doesn't over-rotate forward. Then use the front pin to affix the trigger bar with the pacman looking thing. Then screw the new trigger block on.

Done.

I took my Boss apart to take pictures for you, I took a pic of the orientation of the pins/sear/spring/trigger bar. And assembled it outside the block to make it dead simple.

Pretend it's your Crown.

Here's the step by step I provided (apparently all a waste of time)


Yeah the inside of the trigger is the same, pin position, pin function, spring and sear are identical you're only changing the outside parts.

Assuming you have the screws to hold the trigger box to the action of the Crown

Turn the gun on its side on a towel but leave enough room to slide the pins out.

1 Push out the back pin towards the butt of the gun

2 Push out the middle pin

3 Hold the trigger assembly as you push out the most forward pin (sping pressure against it)

4 Remove the Crown trigger assembly

5 Carefully take out the spring and the sear, they'll be loose inside that gap

6 Put the sear back in like I have it oriented in the picture above or put the new sear in, they should be identical

7 Put the middle pin back in with the sear above it so the pin acts as a stop to keep the sear from rotating too far forward

8 Put your spring in there hooked into the sear on the little nub

9 Put that bar with the round part in it that Krale sent you with the pin on the front end and the spring sitting on that high screw, place it in under spring tension and find the hole in it with your last pin.

10 Check it for function, cock it and see if the sear engages, push on the spring side of that bar to "shoot" ( hold the cocking handle so it doesnt actually shoot)

11 Now screw the new trigger box over the parts you installed and it should work. Might need some fiddling with screws to get it as heavy or light as you want the trigger and to make the safety work.

 

[Fred56]

Got ya - I ordered the spring so I have that and then I’ll work the change out !! I don’t have the screws yet for the housing the trigger mounts in - so I need to get the size for that too !! They didn’t ship any - this is why I’m wondering if I even need to use it ??!! 
I see the three pins and can see how you arrange them - I’ll get back to it. 
I never got past just taking my tigger first part out - seeing the difference told me to back up and regroup on this !!!

the Crown sits down in the block not up out in the bracket ....... that’s a big difference !!! 
mom very thankful for your help - and will get this figured out - just need to grab it in my head first too !!!
I’ll get back to it next week - I’m going to shoot this week. Also dealing with a torn rotator cuff and looking at surgery in December ;( 

will update ya for sure !!! 
thanks 

 

[Fred56]

Oh - step 5 the spring !!! 
see on this new Crown Continuum the spring is mounted to the trigger lever part !! 
I’ll get good pictures to show what I have to work with ..... my bad !! 
big difference in springs - that why I just went and ordered the spring from the Boss trigger. 
I’ll get this figured - no worries !!! 

 

[Glem.Chally]

Got ya - I ordered the spring so I have that and then I’ll work the change out !! I don’t have the screws yet for the housing the trigger mounts in - so I need to get the size for that too !! They didn’t ship any - this is why I’m wondering if I even need to use it ??!! 
I see the three pins and can see how you arrange them - I’ll get back to it. 
I never got past just taking my tigger first part out - seeing the difference told me to back up and regroup on this !!!

the Crown sits down in the block not up out in the bracket ....... that’s a big difference !!! 
mom very thankful for your help - and will get this figured out - just need to grab it in my head first too !!!
I’ll get back to it next week - I’m going to shoot this week. Also dealing with a torn rotator cuff and looking at surgery in December ;( 

will update ya for sure !!! 
thanks

The nice thing about FX guns is there is parts schematics for every gun, oring sizes, diagrams of how things go together etc. The trigger assembly is from a Boss, so I looked on the diagram and found the screw size. It's part E11 on the Boss diagram on this link, you'll need 2 Countersunk screw M5x8

You do not need a new spring, but they should have included the screws as it's an upgrade for the Crown and it never used those threaded holes you'll now be using.

https://fxairguns.com/support/

Here is the link, as you scroll down you'll see all the FX models of guns and each of them is a link to a schematic and parts list. Don't believe me the spring, sear, pins are identical? Feel free to cross reference between Royale and Boss and Crown.

 

[Glem.Chally]

Ok you got a point there, the spring does look slightly different between the Boss and Crown. Honestly I'm using one from a ballpoint pen with amazing results haha, its just a spring nothing magical about it.

 

[Odoyle]

BALLPOINT PEN SPRINGS WORK!!!

Try different ones if you can...

 

[Glem.Chally]

Sorry Fred, I spread it on pretty thick there was uncalled for.

 

[Fred56]

Ok - new spring is on its way !! No worries !! 
so have you done this to a Crown ??!? 
thanks !!!
Crown trigger 10 parts / Boss trigger 13 !! 
crown didn’t come with the housing price mounted to the main block - this is what’s make me crossed eye - but I think I have it - I’ll have to see if the whole assembly will fit back into the stock with that housing mounted !!! More next week ...... 

 

[Fred56]

Now way - it’s all good !!! Really !!! I love it !! 
Best thing is Sharing info !!! 
here I’ll show ya - ask me about HVAC !!!! 
just retired 2 years ago - did 40 years of it - best part towards the end was teaching it !!! 
I have a simple rule these days after open heart surgery ; mind over mater - if I dint mind, it don’t mater !!

update next week when I open it all up again !!

 

[Glem.Chally]

The crown would not have those threaded holes that it doesn't use if there wasn't forethought to making these parts fit.

And the number of parts is irrelevant when the extra parts are outside the gun. Screwed onto it.

 

[Fred56]

This is the Crown trigger with the stock removed - I see

 

the two holes on the main block for the housing of the Boss, their empty in this photo - so I’m thinking this should all work, just need to see with the housing in place and then fit into the stock !!! 

a lot of difference there - so will see what happens !! 

 

[Glem.Chally]

This is the Crown trigger with the stock removed - I see

 

the two holes on the main block for the housing of the Boss, their empty in this photo - so I’m thinking this should all work, just need to see with the housing in place and then fit into the stock !!! 

a lot of difference there - so will see what happens !! 

Appearances can be deceiving, the pins are the same, the pin functions are the same, the sear is identical, the spring does the same thing and has a nub to sit on on both assemblies. The threaded holes are the same thread pitch, depth and position.

The Boss trigger assembly can fit on several guns and does. Don't let the outside appearance fool you, it will fit.

 

[elh0102]

 As I recall, you don't need to do anything with the sear, It functions the same with both triggers. As for changing springs, I have a crisp, 6 oz release with the provided spring. You can get it lighter, but at the cost of losing the first stage (not a great loss). As with most fake 2 stage triggers, the first stage is not really part of the trigger assembly, and is not independently adjustable. You just have to play with different springs, and sear engagement settings until you hit on what you like.

 

[Glem.Chally]

It is independently adjustable that's what the screw at the front does and if adjusted properly it most definitely has a discernible first stage.

It has no detent ball to call it a fake two stage trigger. I have mine set for a long light first stage, hits a wall then breaks crisply. So I gotta disagree, triggers like the Crown and Royale sure a purist could call it not a true 2 stage.

 

[bigHUN]

I did replaced a trigger on my target crossbow some years ago when this my local company was in startup, and that upgrade was huge. I can see how they're prices doubled as they became popular now.

Wondering if anything drop-in would be available for the Impact?

 

[Spray1Mark]

I know someone who tried it and said it was an ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE to fit it to a Crown!