FX Hybrid slugs quality

[Kola]

What are you shooting? I have a modified notos with a superior liner, 17 LDC 218s are the best performing slug by a mile. Considering my crown has the same exact twist and length 380mm 1:24 superior I get great results with it too. In 25 1:16 slug liner not quite so wonderful, they do better in the slower twist somehow. The expansion is superb always. My 1:16 .25 slug liner packs the H&N slug HP, and Zan slugs (redesigns) just as well as a superior does pellets. To be fair, I havent played with speeds and pressures with the Griffin LDC .250s so I can't say for sure. They do about 1.6MOA at 100. Where as H&N and Zan of the same weight do, reliably, one inch or just under. I stopped experimenting and tweaking when I got to the point where I'm getting pellet accuracy out of 2 slugs.

I use a Dreamline Classic, standard Superior liner, the .217s in 23gr at 871 FPS, groups pf 3 shot cloverleaf at 100m if I do my part.

 

[Kola]

I was looking at the H&N HP slugs in the 21 and 23gr range, but from the look of it the hollow point is very shallow, not much cavity in them.

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The HP 2 have deeper cavity but they aren't available at those lower weight. The HP price is great though, I probably should try them out at some point.

They are quite hard and I expect they will not expand much, but they work well for me.

I only tried Javelins (poor results), FX (poor results), H&N (great results) so far.

 

[RabbitofCaerbannog]

They are quite hard and I expect they will not expand much, but they work well for me.

I only tried Javelins (poor results), FX (poor results), H&N (great results) so far.

First. .218 in a superior should do better than that. .217 In mine does crap. .218 is superior. Try them.

This pic is a Griffin LDC 17 .218 from a superior barrel at 783fps. The chipmunk was at a good 25y so about a 750-760 impact speed.d

 

[Xcaliber]

I also saw someone posted some gory picture of doves/pigeons with huge nasty wound, these Griffin LDC seems to grenade and expand like a champ

 

[RabbitofCaerbannog]

I also saw someone posted some gory picture of doves/pigeons with huge nasty wound, these Griffin LDC seems to grenade and expand like a champ

Lol that was me

 

[Xcaliber]

Lol that was me

These LDC seems quite explosive upon impact, absolutely brutal and terrifying to any small to medium size games

 

[RabbitofCaerbannog]

These LDC seems quite explosive upon impact, absolutely brutal and terrifying to any small to medium size games

I'm out back right now. Quick 3-4 hour afternoon hunt. In a ghillie in a blind right now, using the notos with the superior and ldcs. I've got two male greys having a territorial dispute right now just out of harms way... Hopefully more to come in "head shot thread' Tonight

 

[Xcaliber]

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I'm out back right now. Quick 3-4 hour afternoon hunt. In a ghillie in a blind right now, using the notos with the superior and ldcs. I've got two male greys having a territorial dispute right now just out of harms way... Hopefully lro3 to come in "head shot thread' Tonight

I have 3 rounds of Hybrids loaded for the M4 and waiting for tree rats to give the Hybrids a 'tryout" as well.

 

[RabbitofCaerbannog]

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I have 3 rounds of Hybrids loaded for the M4 and waiting for tree rats to give the Hybrids a 'tryout" as well.

I got screaming angry last night. I finally got one in.. and what do I do? Forget the safety was on.... Then when I click it off... Premature trigger pull and it zips about a half inch over his ears. This had me unleash a tirade of self deprecating, blasphemous and polyethnic/religious/species/sexual slurs of an egregious and immoral nature. It's such an idiot mistake.

 

[RabbitofCaerbannog]

I got screaming angry last night. I finally got one in.. and what do I do? Forget the safety was on.... Then when I click it off... Premature trigger pull and it zips about a half inch over his ears. This had me unleash a tirade of self deprecating, blasphemous and polyethnic/religious/species/sexual slurs of an egregious and immoral nature. It's such an idiot mistake.

Redemption. You can see I actually nicked his ear when I missed last night. Same critter

Edit:NICKED not picked.

 

[Xcaliber]

Nice, that was from Notos?

No luck yet, they must have known i was waiting for them. lol

 

[RabbitofCaerbannog]

Nice, that was from Notos?

No luck yet, they must have known i was waiting for them. lol

Yes.

 

[Xcaliber]

That's some nasty wound on that rat bro! lol

 

[Xcaliber]

Two volunteers showed up for the Hybrid Tryouts today, usually i go for the head shot but wanted to see the effectiveness of these Hybrid on body shot, slinging them at around 950fps, same shot placement at the lungs on both volunteers at around 15 yard, they both dropped instantly and the damage is devastating.

I wasn't expecting overpen, but at such close range it's not easy to avoid pass through at those velocity with around 44ft-lb of energy, the Hybrids are dirty but they are very effective. I'm still waiting for the Griffin LDC slugs, should be here next week.

A 3rd volunteer showed up for the tryout shortly after lol I went for head shot this time, instant lights out.

These Hybrids seems very popular today, a 4th volunteer showed up for the tryout, he was facing toward me and I took a full frontal head shot, no pass thru this time, it must have expanded inside and made his eye bulged out bleeding from the ears.

These volunteers are literally dying for the tryout, they keep coming for more Hybrid actions!! 5th one was a lung shot, this one didn't drop instantly, she ran for about 5 yard before she died.

5 so far, the Hybrids didn't disappoint LOL I have a feeling more will come, going to try the 20gr NSA next.

 

[JaceSpace1369]

Two volunteers showed up for the Hybrid Tryouts today, usually i go for the head shot but wanted to see the effectiveness of these Hybrid on body shot, slinging them at around 950fps, same shot placement at the lungs on both volunteers at around 15 yard, they both dropped instantly and the damage is devastating.

I wasn't expecting overpen, but at such close range it's not easy to avoid pass through at those velocity with around 44ft-lb of energy, the Hybrids are dirty but they are very effective. I'm still waiting for the Griffin LDC slugs, should be here next week.

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A 3rd volunteer showed up for the tryout shortly after lol I went for head shot this time, instant lights out.

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Nice shot! Whioe you're at it try some Varmint Knocker slugs, they expand as slow as 730fps.

 

[Xcaliber]

Nice shot! Whioe you're at it try some Varmint Knocker slugs, they expand as slow as 730fps.

I've ordered 800 rounds of Varmint Knocker in 218 and 217, still waiting for them. Price per round wise the VK is about the same as the Hybrids and Griffin LDC.

The NSA is the cheapest in the same weight range, but i'm not sure they would expand as well as the others.

 

[JaceSpace1369]

I've ordered 800 rounds of Varmint Knocker in 218 and 217, still waiting for them. Price per round wise the VK is about the same as the Hybrids and Griffin LDC.

The NSA is the cheapest in the same weight range, but i'm not sure they would expand as well as the others.

NSA are extremely accurate, but in the smaller calibers.They're expansion is mediocre compared to just about every other slug brand with a hollowpoint.

Hell yeah!

 

[Xcaliber]

NSA are extremely accurate, but in the smaller calibers.They're expansion is mediocre compared to just about every other slug brand with a hollowpoint.

Hell yeah!

I'm still a bit surprised that there aren't any pellets that would expand like these slugs do.

The Hades/Atomic and H&N Hunter/Extreme often deformed just a bit, I have never seen them mushroom out or expand like these Hybrid do on squirrels, they are just as deadly though, just not as messy. Usually I shot pellets at 890~900fps from M4, or in 750fps range from the Notos. Maybe if i fling the Hades/Atomic at 980fps they would get more expansion....accuracy is crap at such high velocity tho. While JSB Diablo and other domed pellet often have pass thru, still 1 shot 1 kill, much cleaner exit wound.

 

[RabbitofCaerbannog]

NSA are extremely accurate, but in the smaller calibers.They're expansion is mediocre compared to just about every other slug brand with a hollowpoint.

Hell yeah!I

I'm still a bit surprised that there aren't any pellets that would expand like these slugs do.

The Hades/Atomic and H&N Hunter/Extreme often deformed just a bit, I have never seen them mushroom out or expand like these Hybrid do on squirrels, they are just as deadly though, just not as messy. Usually I shot pellets at 890~900fps from M4, or in 750fps range from the Notos. Maybe if i fling the Hades/Atomic at 980fps they would get more expansion....accuracy is crap at such high velocity tho. While JSB Diablo and other domed pellet often have pass thru, still 1 shot 1 kill, much cleaner exit wound.

There are. H&N baracuda hunters expand just as well as HP 2 slugs. They are usually decently accurate 1.25moa type accuracy at 80. But the expansion is matched. I get incredible results from Hades at low and high speeds.

baracuda Hunter at 887fps

Hades at 880

Edit: while responding to this post a very large male grey squirrel I've been waiting to get over his jitters.. come out and presented me a fantastic quartering toward shot at just shy of 90y the Griffin glimmered in the sun light just before I heard that deep Thhhhhwock! we live for. Pics to come

 

[JaceSpace1369]

I'm still a bit surprised that there aren't any pellets that would expand like these slugs do.

The Hades/Atomic and H&N Hunter/Extreme often deformed just a bit, I have never seen them mushroom out or expand like these Hybrid do on squirrels, they are just as deadly though, just not as messy. Usually I shot pellets at 890~900fps from M4, or in 750fps range from the Notos. Maybe if i fling the Hades/Atomic at 980fps they would get more expansion....accuracy is crap at such high velocity tho. While JSB Diablo and other domed pellet often have pass thru, still 1 shot 1 kill, much cleaner exit wound.

Hades likento be shot fast in the .25 they've worked well for me at 850fps and they've worked well for me at 990fps out of an AEA varmint and kalibrgun cricket, and I mean head shot accurate everytime even at 70yds.