FX Impact - Hunting Specific Questions for a newbie

Hello all,

Brief Background:

I am new to the Forum. My only experience with PCP airguns was a Hatsun Flash QE in 25 cal. I no longer own it, but I loved the PCP experience I had with it, other than the hand pump. I hunt with firearms and have a 308, 350 Legend, and 3 AR platforms in 556/223

Now, I recently got access to a nice property to hunt/camp on in Central TX. I am interested in picking off squirrels, raccoons, coyotes, etc. and I want it to be as quiet as possible, especially during deer season. When it is not deer season, I will be truck camping and will likely be shooting either from the back of my truck at night or in one of my deer blinds, where I routinely see these suckers eating up all my deer feed. There are also cattle on the property, so I know they would love for me to take care of any cayotes.
I have decided I want to go with the FX Impact platform. I will be looking at 25 and possibly a 30 or 35-cal barrel for Cayotes. I do not plan on going much farther than 100 yards and will likely stick with pellets unless I move up to a higher caliber and use slugs.

Here are my questions:
  • I am looking to buy a used MK2 or 3, but I would love to know your thoughts on buying used vs just going new
  • I have an ATN optic on one of my AR platforms that I NEVER use and wonder how these work with the MK3 or should I stick with green "hog lights" either over the feeder or mounted to the gun or both
  • Tanks: I have a lot of friends in the fire service who could likely fill up tanks for me if I were to source some they need to get rid of as they are out of date. Has anyone done this? Pros/Cons, and if I have access to tanks, is a budget compressor that can handle filling them be worth it?
  • Lastly, for those that hunt small/med-sized game with an impact, is 25 cal enough for raccoons and well-placed shots on cayotes?
Thanks in advance. I hope to become not just a consumer, but also a contributor here soon as I jump more into the PCP world more

Happy New Year everyone.
 
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Hello all,

Brief Background:

I am new to the Forum. My only experience with PCP airguns was a Hatsun Flash QE in 25 cal. I no longer own it, but I loved the PCP experience I had with it, other than the hand pump. I hunt with firearms and have a 308, 350 Legend, and 3 AR platforms in 556/223

Now, I recently got access to a nice property to hunt/camp on in Central TX. I am interested in picking off squirrels, raccoons, coyotes, etc. and I want it to be as quiet as possible, especially during deer season. When it is not deer season, I will be truck camping and will likely be shooting either from the back of my truck at night or in one of my deer blinds, where I routinely see these suckers eating up all my deer feed. There are also cattle on the property, so I know they would love for me to take care of any cayotes.
I have decided I want to go with the FX Impact platform. I will be looking at 25 and possibly a 30 or 35-cal barrel for Cayotes. I do not plan on going much farther than 100 yards and will likely stick with pellets unless I move up to a higher caliber and use slugs.

Here are my questions:
  • I am looking to buy a used MK2 or 3, but I would love to know your thoughts on buying used vs just going new
  • I have an ATN optic on one of my AR platforms that I NEVER use and wonder how these work with the MK3 or should I stick with green "hog lights" either over the feeder or mounted to the gun or both
  • Tanks: I have a lot of friends in the fire service who could likely fill up tanks for me if I were to source some they need to get rid of as they are out of date. Has anyone done this? Pros/Cons, and if I have access to tanks, is a budget compressor that can handle filling them be worth it?
  • Lastly, for those that hunt small/med-sized game with an impact, is 25 cal enough for raccoons and well-placed shots on cayotes?
Thanks in advance. I hope to become not just a consumer, but also a contributor here soon as I jump more into the PCP world more

Happy New Year everyone.
Welcome! Given that you are new I would suggest going with the .30 cal. You can make it work with .25 but would likely need to amp up the power, that would require extra money to buy the appropriate slug liner, and time tuning. With a .30 you can set it up with light pellets 44gr or heavier pellets 59gr 52gr, 56gr, 66gr without diving into the slug rabbit hole.

In terms of air, you can get a used scba tank off of ebay for relatively cheap as well as the proper fitting off of ebay as well of Amazon. Likely the tanks you find will be out of date, if they can't fill them for that very reason, send it off to get hydro-tested and you'll be good for a year or two, I can't remember. It costs like $50 to get it done. Otherwise you can look into getting a compressor.

.25 is enough for raccoon with headshots. For coyotes you can do it as well, but you're better off going for a .30.
 
Welcome! Given that you are new I would suggest going with the .30 cal. You can make it work with .25 but would likely need to amp up the power, that would require extra money to buy the appropriate slug liner, and time tuning. With a .30 you can set it up with light pellets 44gr or heavier pellets 59gr 52gr, 56gr, 66gr without diving into the slug rabbit hole.

In terms of air, you can get a used scba tank off of ebay for relatively cheap as well as the proper fitting off of ebay as well of Amazon. Likely the tanks you find will be out of date, if they can't fill them for that very reason, send it off to get hydro-tested and you'll be good for a year or two, I can't remember. It costs like $50 to get it done. Otherwise you can look into getting a compressor.

.25 is enough for raccoon with headshots. For coyotes you can do it as well, but you're better off going for a .30.
Thank you for the detailed feedback! I was leaning toward the 30 cal, but I sure loved the 25 cal I had. Is there any difference at all in the decibel level between the 25 and the 30?
 
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Thank you for the detailed feedback! I was leaning toward the 30 cal, but I sure loved the 25 cal I had. Is there any difference at all in the decibel level between the 25 and the 30?
You're welcome! As long as you have a good moderator on, there won't be much of a difference unless you were to tune for a ton of power.
 
Prefer new, asking prices for used are close to new anyways. FX M4 introduction dropped leftover new M3 prices, a .30 (700mm), if you can find one. Risk of moisture-filled air or unskilled tinkering with used, as well. SCBA tanks have lifetime and 5-year testing expirations that prohibit outside vendor filling, if passed. Yong Heng and GX-CS4 are popular budget compressors for SCBA, search in archives, upper right page corner. Best of Luck, WM
 
Prefer new, asking prices for used are close to new anyways. FX M4 introduction dropped leftover new M3 prices, a .30 (700mm), if you can find one. Risk of moisture-filled air or unskilled tinkering with used, as well. SCBA tanks have lifetime and 5-year testing expirations that prohibit outside vendor filling, if passed. Yong Heng and GX-CS4 are popular budget compressors for SCBA, search in archives, upper right page corner. Best of Luck, WM
Super helpful, thank you!

It seems everything in Utah Airguns store in FX impact MK4 is currently backordered.
 
Super helpful, thank you!

It seems everything in Utah Airguns store in FX impact MK4 is currently backordered.
Yeah, Black Friday to Christmas was heavy for airgun bargains/sales. Forum supporting vendors, with scrolling banners along page top, might be worth visiting. (Bullet Central, The Pellet Shop) WM
 
Super helpful, thank you!

It seems everything in Utah Airguns store in FX impact MK4 is currently backordered.
If you're dead set on impacts check bulletcentral.com they have an airgun section where they sell their left over FX's that have some of their customers parts for cheaper. Reliable site btw
 
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I recently purchased everything to start up my first pcp
Notos 22
Wingman carbon fiber bottle
2 tins of pellets
Cleaning kit
Very excited did all the research saved close to $800 decided to order all from UA, everything arrived pretty quick.
Upon opening noticed right away Umarex notos cardboard box was previously ripped open, partially aired up,chips and pry marks covered up by a sharpie ink pen, couldn’t see through the plastic on the seven shot magazine and clearly see where optics had previously been mounted, big bummer! Immediately called UA they wanted pics I sent their reply was look’s ok nothing out of the ordinary, bigger bummer.
Spoke with Umarex curious if they shipped out used rifles NO.
Every time I see my rad Umarex notos my eyes are drawn to all the blemishes like a bad car accident.
Here’s some pictures
 
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I recently purchased everything to start up my first pcp
Notos 22
Wingman carbon fiber bottle
2 tins of pellets
Cleaning kit
Very excited did all the research saved close to $800 decided to order all from UA, everything arrived pretty quick.
Upon opening noticed right away Umarex notos cardboard box was previously ripped open, partially aired up,chips and pry marks covered up by a sharpie ink pen, couldn’t see through the plastic on the seven shot magazine and clearly see where optics had previously been mounted, big bummer! Immediately called UA they wanted pics I sent their reply was look’s ok nothing out of the ordinary, bigger bummer.
Spoke with Umarex curious if they shipped out used rifles NO.
Every time I see my rad Umarex notos my eyes are drawn to all the blemishes like a bad car accident.
Here’s some pictures
They should've taken your return if you wanted one regardless of if it looks okay to them. It's clearly used, unless you bought refurbished.
 
My advice on the FXs is count on needing to add the FX Carbon Fiber Sleeve, and some kind of shroud tension. If you get one of the current production it should come with the newer clamp style front barrel support block. Then all you would need is a small spacer of some kind to tighten the shroud against. This has been the solution for me and several FX setups to help mitigate poi shifts that occur from handling. If you have the time and opportunity to re-zero before each hunting session this may not matter to you. Also plan on getting some kind of moderator in addition to the shroud to really quiet things down.

25Cal or 30Cal are good choices for general pesting of medium (Skunk-Racoon) sized to coyote sized imo. I have a 25Cal MK2 Impact that produces a happy 80fpe that I would feel comfortable taking down a coyote with. 30Cal would certainly be better.

Used vs New? I would say if you plan on leaving everything more or less stock, get a new discounted M3. If you know you want to change things around and do some upgrading I think a used MK2 can be a good idea. Thats what I did, since I knew I wanted a single regulator for the heavier slugs. You should be able to get a nice gently used MK2 for under $1k right now. But with the M3 being so "cheap" right now that makes a little less sense. Just the Power Block/Plenum kit for an MK2 is $220 plus shipping and tax.

Bullet Central has some deals on FXs, including a 30Cal Maverick for $1370 you might want to inquire about. They had some open box demo sales but I dont see that listed on this one.


Impact M3 700mm 25Cal for $1690

 
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There is a good thread in the hunting area about coyotes. He argues for 50 fpe without a caliber limit and uses a 70 fpe 25. He also takes head shots almost exclusively due in part to brush in the way of the chest. There is another thread by a guy using a 22 impact at around 60 fpe and he's had some issues. I don't have coyote experience but I have taken a couple small raccoons. The most recent was with my near 50 fpe 25. Brain shot dropped him.

I use an expired 45 minute Scott tank I paid about $100 for a few years ago. Works great. I fill it with my Yong Heng. The YH needs an additional moisture filter and some cooling help (simplest is ice in the water) and good oil (I use NuvAir oil).

You may know what you want but you can get a reasonably powerful 25 or 30 (70 fpe or so) for a lot less money in a Umarex Zellos (25 only) or SPA m60b (also offer it in 357). A SPA P35X in 25 caliber would also produce over 50 fpe. I have 3 P35s and they are my favorite air rifles. Small and light, accurate, and reasonably powerful.
 
For the ATN X-Sight 4k Pro scope I have been very happy with this 3d printed focus lever. It really helps me get the focus on a critter quickly. If you can find one like it or just get this one, you probably will also enjoy it.

You didn't say which ATN you had but I am throwing this out there


The Gauntlet 30 cal can be a great out of the store gun that will drop a coyote. Probably effective on body shots too. It's a very loud gun (I own one) but it is very accurate to 100 yards or more.