I’m not picking or trying to sound condescending but it’s very hard to communicate open minded with a person who is so enamored with videos. If you literally hang out with those guys, different story. You would then be privy to what really goes on before they push play. And what goes on afterwards.
But we aren’t driven by fame or money. Could actually really give a poop about any of it. Just like to get the most out of a gun and not lie to ourselves because we spent X amount of money. But it was discussed in another topic before your time by a guy @Centercut. It’s about standards. And that’s how we get turned around and have disagreements. Your dream spectacular gun could be my nightmare. What I require out of a gun to call it great is not what Bob needs to call a gun great. Thats why we just need to chill and talk. Take everything in and use it or not to find happiness in your lane. But referencing YouTube vidiots is like sitting in front of your family doctor using what you saw on a hospital drama the night before against him. Carries zero weight. It could be 50% fiction.
I agree with the above, but feel enthusiasm shouldn’t be dampened as reality will have its say… Compromises are made in many endeavors, this is hobby to most, so it is important to remember that it is just that, a “hobby”. Me personally? I am not a group shooter, but have posted some “cherry picked” groups. I mainly use my PCPs sub 60 yards for pesting and plinking. I value first round hits at various yardages as opposed to tiny groups at the same distances. I simply am the weak link and lack consistency after a few groups on paper… Luckily for me and unlucky for them, most pests allow me that one shot…
Youtubers aside, you started this thread with a question and reported that your M4 had the first shot blues and needed a 70bar tune bandaid. Obviously a number of us have been in that situation and responded accordingly, only to be labeled as hating the platform. That said, I understand the frustration. You’ve bought a Ferrari and found out that it doesn’t run above 2000rpm. It’s a whole lot of sunk cost fallacy. Again, we’ve been there, sold em’ and bought something that works or found a way to fix em’. The good thing about an M3 or 4 is that you won’t lose much money if you sell it and get a BRK Ghost (which seems like a good fit for your needs). There’s an endless stream of rabid customers with their vision clouded by YT videos of monkey heads exploding at 150 yards.
I came across just as many clueless impact owners who did some reckless wild things to their toys, like the dude who set his reg to 220 bar few months ago because he wanted exploding birds! then end up having leaking issue and reg problem.
I could see now why you and some other were being labeled as "haters"
Shot count is seriously “overrated” I personally dislike the huge magazines sticking out of some guns… As for the BRK Ghost? Mine is da bomb, but then again so is my Atomic and Pathfinder… Simply a sweet, on point trio… Zero drama…I came across just as many clueless impact owners who did some reckless wild things to their toys, like the dude who set his reg to 220 bar few months ago because he wanted exploding birds! then end up having leaking issue and reg problem.
In regards to the 70 bar bandaid, it could be just a temp fix but at least i'm not seeing the same issue anymore, not sure if it would come back when i ran up the reg to 120~130 bar to keep it there for heavier pellets and slugs
Based on the small poll result, at least there's 70% voted that they are getting the same velocity without the symptoms.
I take a look at the BRK Ghost, the 11 shot count magazine in .22 and 10 shot magainze in .25 is going to drive me nuts, any PCP with less than 15 shots magazine will go straight into my blacklist to be avoided at all cost, doesn't matter how accurate, reliable, or consistent they are.
Understood, but as I stated super high cap mags sticking out of a gun…? Effing with the symmetry? Simply a non starter. We aren’t going to war. I’ve taken many pests. My fifty rat nights? A single shot pp700sa… You don’t have to “defend” “your” choice, simply have fun, brother…
Crap, you got me. I know nothing about PCP’s. I was just trolling. Credibility? For what, this is just a forum for guys who share a common interest. Not too concerned about my credibility. You can learn a ton here with zero credibility.I could see now why you and some other were being labeled as "haters"
Clearly, you're very proud and quick to dismiss everyone else credibility other than yours, simply because someone else shared their experience on youtube, a medium that you deemed unworthy and have a very negative view of, no matter who shared it, if they had it on youtube, then it must be another "walmart buttcrack" or FX endorsed salesman.
You ARE putting down others in order to elevate your own credibility. Sorry, ain't buying it, whatever snake oil you're selling. This sort of straw man mentality with a crooked view and fallacy ain't never going to fly. Thanks for showing your true color quickly, i know who NOT to take seriously moving forward.
The poll result is the only "perspective" matters to me, everything else is just hot air:
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These folks obviously had you in mind:
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I must admit that I didn’t get the sense that you valued technical inputs. Rather the opposite, as evidenced by the “measurebator” comments and associated rants. You might want to tone that down..
