FX Impact/Maverick Compact or Brocock Ghost??

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The ghost looks promising, still presents some risk being newly designed/redesigned. Why not go with a Brocock XR Magnum or Atomic, depending upon weight and power needs? My $0.02 is that the FX has more tech which usually means more points of failure. Don’t get me wrong, the FX platforms are nice, however for your 1st PCP, make it a reliable experience.
 
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L.Leon said:
Why the ALL CAPS… Bunch of new parts?!?! Don’t know what you herd… But didn’t you hear/read that its a mechanical version of an existing product? Not just cobbled together miscellaneous parts. Is that what you are shout asking?
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i think its nice gun nobody said cobbled together, i have had 6-8 brococks ony one was a turd so im not knocking the ghost you should look into it more looks like lotta new parts fron not the same brocock guns never seen a power wheel hemmer and valves new so yes lotta new parts youhave a brocock tattoo lol its a nice gun so nobodies knocking it
 
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Gr8Recreation said:
The ghost looks promising, still presents some risk being newly designed/redesigned. Why not go with a Brocock XR Magnum or Atomic, depending upon weight and power needs? My $0.02 is that the FX has more tech which usually means more points of failure. Don’t get me wrong, the FX platforms are nice, however for your 1st PCP, make it a reliable experience.
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I am absolutely loving on my .22 Atomic XR. It has proven itself over and over… Very capable on small pests out to 50-60 yards. Turn down the power and its a great barn gun for rats or pest birds in the rafters. Love that it takes 45-50 strokes of my HPA hand pump to get to 250 BAR for at least 33 shots. An incredibly practical pesting machine.
 
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douger said:
i think its nice gun nobody said cobbled together, i have had 6-8 brococks ony one was a turd so im not knocking the ghost you should look into it more looks like lotta new parts fron not the same brocock guns never seen a power wheel hemmer and valves new so yes lotta new parts….
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That is because its a mechanical copy of the Delta Wolf… thats why it doesn’t resemble previous Brocock models in the XR lineup. But “it is” a BRK Brocock nonetheless. Just based on a Daystate PCP… ahem, and I repeat, the Daystate Delta Wolf….
 
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L.Leon said:
Why the ALL CAPS… Bunch of new parts?!?! Don’t know what you herd… But didn’t you hear/read that its a mechanical version of an existing product? Not just cobbled together miscellaneous parts. Is that what you are shout asking?
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He probably means the valve, trigger, power wheel new I believe. The mechanical parts like the valve, trigger assembly, hammer wheel are not from a delta and could be classified as "new parts" I could be wrong just what I've understood from the posts.
 
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jasmlowe said:
The Impact is more complicated than the Maverick and the Maverick, because of having 2 regs as well, is more complicated than the Ghost. I would keep that in mind if your new to pcp's. The Impact is more complicated to take apart than the Maverick. I'm getting ready to upgrade the reg's on both my Mavericks, which is pretty easy to do.
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I've got two Mavericks, frankly, they are fairly easy to work on, ONCE you get past the learning curve. Need regs, easy swap 15 min, tune both regs, 15 min and off you go, swap out the Hammer weight, 15 min, Barrels swap, minutes literally, swap calibers 20 min or less. Seeing a trend here? Of the two, my new one was perfect from the git go, of course I had to mess with it by tuning. The second was preloved, had some issues but working through them, have one more thing to do and it'll be solid.
 
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Think your best best after we’ve all chimed in is shoulder them each and see for yourself what you like-the weight, length of pull, trigger, capacity, features, and everything else that’s important to you. Truth is, even with all our opinions, you should be able to tell fairly quickly which one you’ll want to own first. You’ll most likely be selling anything not nailed to the floor to get your 2nd favorite within a month or less. Are there any dealers in your area?
 
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Ingwe said:
Hello Everyone,

I am looking for some wisdom here on making a decision about my next purchase.

I am a Long Time shooter, getting my 1st air rifle (Crosman 1400) back in 1974, but I am new to PCP's, since my only PCP so far is a Gen 1 Marauder.

I decided that I want a 25 cal FX Impact Compact or Maverick Compact or a Brocock Ghost...with Donny FL.

The new gun will be for casual shooting...target and backyard plinking, plus small game/pest shooting.

I won't be adjusting or tinkering with the settings and I don't own a Chronograph.
As a matter of fact, I will ask whoever I buy it from to set it up and tune it for me, at max power with the best accuracy possible using JSB Exact King Heavy pellets...and then I will probably never touch the settings after that.

Also, which airgun source do you suggest that I buy from who will put the gun together for me, tune it with the JSB's, and chrono it etc?

I would GREATLY appreciate your thoughts, suggestions, and comments!

Thank you!
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If that is your criteria, I’d suggest a Daystate Huntsman .22. They are super accurate, handle great, offer no adjustments and are tuned for JSB from the factory.

All three of the rifles you are considering are much more complex, due to offering extreme adjustability.

Oh, and the Huntsman is a heck of a lot nicer looking too.

Good luck with your decision.
 
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EPG said:
If that is your criteria, I’d suggest a Daystate Huntsman .22. They are super accurate, handle great, offer no adjustments and are tuned for JSB from the factory.

All three of the rifles you are considering are much more complex, due to offering extreme adjustability.

Oh, and the Huntsman is a heck of a lot nicer looking too.

Good luck with your decision.
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Beautiful gun but I am looking for a compact gun like the Impact/Mav/BRK
 
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No bad choices here. I think the Mav is the way go. FX sells more AGs than most of the other brands so there is more chance of issues, but if you have a FX issue their support is great and this forum will most likely have a fix to do yourself.

I have a Brocock Bantam HR in 22 and it has been the only AG that has been trouble free, also my oldest pcp. They are however very simple design, but sturdy, very accurate also.

I like to fiddle and play so FX are fun for me, changing cal and/or barrel lengths/twist is something I like.
 
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yenniedn said:
As an owner of many Impacts through the years, I'm trying to be objective here. The Ghost looks like a pretty intriguing new rifle and really the ONLY new model coming out now that vaguely piques my interest in buying another rifle.

However, like ALL new models, it's typically wise to let other more adventurous early adopters take the dive first and report back on any potential issues before jumping in yourself as a relatively new PCP owner. Not saying this to bash the Ghost as it happens with almost every new model. The original Impact had some issues. The Leshiy 2 had plenty of quirks also. But over time, they mostly got ironed out. So if you can wait a few months for more real world feedback on the Ghost, you can make a more informed decision. The Impact has been around for a few years and there's plenty of info on it; the Ghost is still a relative unknown so it's hard to make a decision at this time I think.
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Couldn t have put it better. Too soon to make “an educated guess” about Ghost.

Looks good from afar so far, but i haven t seen it up-close yet. And for now there 's no knowing for sure how Ghost in time will handle high(er) power levels. Not only with regard to accuracy with pellets and slugs, but especially with regard to that so called “sophisticated valve design”.

I m not being sceptical here, just plain cautious. For every time Daystate came up with 'something completely new' in the past, it proved not to be without some serious snags.
 
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I don’t own any of these or plan to but to answer your new or used question I say buy new, no doubt.
Reasons are dealer support of questions or concerns like impact or maverick
Also, post dealer and manufacturer support should you need it.
Plus depending on the dealer they will have what you want already and can set it up how you want so you dont have to.
Tell them how and what you plan to shoot for pellet and power etc.

About not wanting to touch it….
Right now you dont want to fiddle but at some point you might need to change an oring as it is a giant exspensive paper weight when it does not hold air. Rather than sending it off for a quick fix just get lots of the correct orings (very cheap), some 100% silicone oil or grease (I use grease) and a set of metric hex wrenches. After knowing how to properly degas the gun your able to change all orings yourself. I also bought a airisol can of leak detector finally as I have a few guns (Artemis) that I can been seen chasing my tail with.
One of those call tow truck or change tire yourself problems. Both take time, one just has some simple steps of operation and tools, along with the dreded get my hands dirty.
 
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Ex.Magnum said:
Couldn t have put it better. Too soon to make “an educated guess” about Ghost.

Looks good from afar so far, but i haven t seen it up-close yet. And for now there 's no knowing for sure how Ghost in time will handle high(er) power levels. Not only with regard to accuracy with pellets and slugs, but especially with regard to that so called “sophisticated valve design”.

I m not being sceptical here, just plain cautious. For every time Daystate came up with 'something completely new' in the past, it proved not to be without some serious snags.
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The basic design of the valve in the Ghost has been in use for 2+ years in the Delta. They've made continual small improvements (port size optimization for example) but the design itself is fairly well tested at this point, and has proven to be reliable. The Ghost is new, but the valve isn't.
 
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Franklink said:
The basic design of the valve in the Ghost has been in use for 2+ years in the Delta. They've made continual small improvements (port size optimization for example) but the design itself is fairly well tested at this point, and has proven to be reliable. The Ghost is new, but the valve isn't.
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Thx.
I did know the Ghost’s valve is a (more or less) 'inspired copy' of the valve in D.Wolf.
That’s exactly what one of my doubts is about : both electronical ánd mechanical airguns, both with one same valve??

Let's see how that goes once the mechanical gun is supposed to operate constantly at power levels around 90 joules (and more), especially in the long run.
Just my caution talking here.
 
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