FX Impact vs FX Crown conversation with Utah Air Guns

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Eamon

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Yesterday I had a very nice conversation with Mike at Utah Airguns. We got on to the topic of what do I need next? We where chatting about the DreamLine Lite and did I really need one? Which I just could not get warm and fuzzy about.

So he says how about a Impact? I'm like well I have a Crown. Do I really want one aren't they very labor intensive? He said no more then your Crown, but if I send you one you will sell you Crown the next day.

I'm like why? He said they are just so much more cool with all the changes you can do with them. Think of them as a AR with all the mods you can do.

Now the truth is I have been asking myself the very same question. I think I do want one, but have not been able to justify it. I've been like three FX's? I have had no thought about becoming a fan boy. In fact I thought I might go Daystate Red Wolf just to shake it up a bit or EDgun or ???

So what do you guys think? Would I like an Impact X that much more than my Crown? Do I just go ahead and get one? Please make up my mind for me.

Thank you all in advance for all of your opinions,

Eamon
 
I started with a Royale. Sold it to fund an Impact X. Sold it to a mate and got a Wildcat Mk1. Having been there and done that, I am going to keep the Wildcat and buy another Royale. The Royale has just the right amount of adjustments for me (transfer port and hammer spring if necessary) and since I love shooting pellets and have no need for the slug hype, I much prefer the original smooth twist over the STX.(More solid, had to clean the x barrel regularly to keep accuracy while the smooth twists get better with every shot) 

With the Impact X I found myself subconsciously worrying and checking adjustments and settings instead of shooting. Don't get me wrong, it was a sweet gun and never gave me any major dramas. Just love the rugged reliability of the simpler designs. 

I know this is Crown vs Impact. But If you love to fiddle and tune and play? Get the Impact. If love to just shoot and hunt and bang around? Keep it simple. 

James
 
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Both are great, but I am with the impact for size (for travel and in the field) and looks (like it more tactical and have more rails to attach things like torches, laser, etc), maybe the impact involves more tuning hours / adjustments but once you get your machine tunned, it has not match, and just by the sound you know what happend (but not without many many hours of self study...masterclass among other tutorials). If you are a shoot and go sporter, then stay out of the impact. I have several airguns and today the impact is the one I use more, and after that the prod (for shooting 5 to 20 yards tree only, light and accurate, but only for that range) Everytime my impact x hits feathers or fur over 80 meters, I say: Damn is worth every penny! all the others airguns are getting dust. I will get another impact x, but probably the Impact X 2 (more power and bug fixed) will come out soon, So I think I will wait for that one.
 
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So my hot take on this subject is that people can be broken down into three categories: 

People who strongly prefer a more classic rifle design and configuration. For these people, the Crown or a RAW is the way to go. The Brocock could also slot in here. 

People who strongly prefer a futuristic/techy looking rifle design and configuration. For these people the Impact is the obvious front-runner. It is about as futuristic looking an airgun as they come, in my opinion anyway. Edguns might be an alternate here, having their own retro-scifi look, although are shy a few features of the Impact. That said, while I love the ease of adjustment of the FX guns, some people I think put too much emphasis on it. You may never actually touch the adjustments. 

People who are agnostic or at least not heavily weighted on either side of the techy vs. classic. These people could go either way Crown or Impact. Critically though, I think this is where the RedWolf fits in. It is a bit too flashy and scifi and electronic to please a lot of the classic crowd, but it is big and long which displeases a lot of the techy crowd who'd take a bullpup instead. 

Just my thoughts on the matter. I don't think there are any real right or wrong answers here, they are all great guns. In general I think PCP airgunners lean more towards tech than classic, mainly because modern PCPs are all tech on some level and classics would be springers or PBs. That is my best guess as to why more people here are strongly in favor of the Impact. 



For what it is worth, and/or full disclosure, I picked a Crown over an Impact. If I were to switch to a big bore with a longer barrel, I'd definitely prefer a bullpup. I think at the end of the day most people have one gun they prefer and that gets most of the use. If you already have/have found that gun, you may as well just enjoy it. 

I hope reading through my thoughts on the subject was helpful in making your decision. Also I hope my categorizations didn't offend anyone, they were certainly not intended to. :) 
 
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I bought one of the first impacts when they came out. I shot a standard configured rifle all my life and found I wasn't as accurate with the impact. I loved the looks of the crown and sold the impact and bought the crown. I will probably buy a synthetic stock for the crown so I don't have to worry about dings.

On a little different note since FX now has a 3 year warranty I probably will sell my crown in 2 more years and purchase the latest and greatest Crown or whatever I feel is the best out at the time. My reasoning is you can sell a top of the line FX for about 3 or 4 hundred less then you paid for it and get a new latest and greatest with a 3 year warranty again. Where else can you shoot a gun for 3 years at 100.00-125/year then sell it and buy a new one and have another 3 year warranty. One trip to the repair center if you don't work on your gun can cost 2 or 3 hundred. I like warranties. I am lucky and made the cutoff line to extend my warranty out 2 more years on my crown.
 
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Wow! Outstanding replies from all of you. I think you all nailed it on the head. I am so new to air guns I have not learned my way around yet. As a powder burner am pretty good at for at least knowing my problem. But as an air gunner I fit "he doesn't know he ass from a hole in the ground".

Now with that said I have no problem with learning. I guess my fear is really is the Impact to large of a learning curve?

What do you masters think?

Eamon
 
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Buy the Impact and see which one you like the best? Then sell the other one!
That's about the only way I know how to figure out what I want.
Sure I can get other people's opinions? Or I could try and find someone in my area that has a certain gun I'm interested in? But it's just not the same.

Nothing Beats First Hand Experience! IMHO!

Do your research and if it's a gun you're really interested in? BUY IT!

Here's My Opinion:

I like Bullpups. Because they're compact. Try and put a 700mm barrel on the Crown.

I like traditional rifles for long range shooting. 500yrds.+

Both have their place in my gun cabinet.

Airguns I own??
Impact "X"

Wildcat MK2

Leshiy.

Have Fun!
Have a Great Day!


 
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I started with a Bobcat .22 still have it. Got on the waiting list as soon as possible for a .25 black Impact they called early with a silver one cause their order had an extra silver come in. I took it. I turn it down for pesting. Michael had done some testing and suggested it was best to set the valve under the barrel in front of the fore stock at 3. and the power knob at max, the regulator is set at 150 bar. I haven't changed that and I get more then 70 shots per fill. Works great for squirrels,pigeons, starlings. rabbits , and feral cats. I turned it up a little for raccoons. I use the 25 grain .25 cal JSB all the time. I have the telescoping moderator tube and it is quite. with a 2x7 scope does all I need. It's a 1st generation Impact. I prefer the .25 cal to all others. If I had coyotes I'd really consider a .30 . The .25 is a great do all caliber and with the new valving and the 34 grain JSB plus slugs I bet it would do coyotes and feral dogs.
 
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Figure out what your requirements are. You may or may not need an Impact, I chose it because

  • it can break down into small backpackable parts with one 3mm hex screw being loosened
  • 480cc bottles are light and have an internal valve - meaning, I can add 65 extra slug shots at the cost of ~1lb (Crown can also do this)
  • highly tunable, and honestly when I'm set with ammo that works I don't need to tune for anything else 

I considered a Crown, because the barrel seems a little more firmly secured, but then I realized that if I went with this classic style rifle I'd be happier with a DayState or a custom Beaumont rifle.


 
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Impact X fits all styles of folks in my opinion. I'm not a fiddler/tinker, had Utah setup the gun and I just shoot the dang thing. If I want to play around I can but it's not a requirement to own an Impact. Having a 700mm barrel in a gun that is shorter than my RW HP is a plus. Having the ability to have 26 shots in a 25caliber gun is very beneficial for me. So far the gun has been a laser for me with 25gr JSB kings, cant wait to stretch its legs out past 100 yards. The trigger is very predictable but I havent got it down as light as other guns I own which I knew going into this gun. 

I have two Renegades, a RW HP, two Mauraders, Leshy, FX Compact and Impact X. Love them all and happy to now own the Impact which was my latest purchase. 
 
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Like someone said above having the 700mm barrel option with the Impact and it still be a compact package is a nice touch. That extra 100mm seems like it goes a long way with power generation and may make a big difference for shooting slugs that need the extra umph! 700mm on a Crown and your starting to get a little on the long side, especially if you want to stick a silencer on the end. I have a Crown and love it though, I have a preference for a more traditional looking rifle. Got the 600mm slug liner in the mail today so looking forward to testing, but do think 700mm will give better results. 
 
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