Greetings everyone. I'm a long time springer shooter. Started with a Beeman C-1 carbine .177 which I still have. A great little rifle. Now I want to make the jump to pcp rifles. I almost bought a FX Impact but was warned to be cautious. FX Impacts have been known to be bad air leakers due to bad o-rings. Also they have a high return rate for repair work. This is what I was told. If you have a Impact please comment if your rifle is a leaker. I'd still like to get one but I'll wait till I read a few comments. Thanks for your help..
FX Impacts leakers?
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The only leaks I have had on mine were self inflicted and at the gauges. Less than 1/8th turn on the gauge fixed them. My bad.
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I bought one used. Two years old. Holds pressure like a champ. A lot of leaks could be induced by tinkering? I am not sure. No issues with the one I purchased.
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Impacts have a larger number of O-rings than other rifles and so the risk of failure is higher. Like all rifles some people will have problems while others will have a completely trouble free experience. The fact is that you tend to hear more from people with problems than you do from people who don't.
I don't own an Impact but I do own several FX rifles and all have been totally trouble free, while my Daystate rifles have all had issues.Sometime I think it's just "luck of the draw".
I don't own an Impact but I do own several FX rifles and all have been totally trouble free, while my Daystate rifles have all had issues.Sometime I think it's just "luck of the draw".
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Thanks guy's for your replies. I'm sold on the Impact. Going to get my order in today. hawkeye69, that's why I came here to get actual answers from Impact owners... Thanks again..
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my impact is over three years old. no leaks. still shoots spot on just like when new.
Scotte
Scotte
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Thought I'd share some info and numbers about the Impact as this is a common question that comes up that really stems from when the Impact was first launched 6 years ago. If you search for old posts and threads back in the first year or two of the Impact, this radical new design for an airgun did have some teething issues with o-rings and repairs. But to be quite blunt that has changed. I'll do something we usually don't do and share some numbers with you.
FX is currently making in excess of 20,000 Impacts a year worldwide. No other high end PCP even comes close to the amount of Impacts on the market. So certainly, like all airguns, there are going to be leaks and repairs that happen if you simply consider the numbers sold. Add to that if you factor in the amount of use the gun finds and how often the trigger is being pulled. The Impact clearly is a special rifle and in general I think it's safe to say that owners are using their Impacts and not letting them collect dust in the corner.
Personally, since I opened up FX USA in November of 2017, I've seen first hand the amount of rifles that come in for service work. And if you compare the amount of guns that we sell to the amount of service work, the numbers are staggering (in a good way). Meaning, though we are exponentially selling more rifles, the amount of Impacts coming in for service work remain relatively flat. I've had just 4 techs for the last two years be able to stay on top of our work. Meaning the quality control of the Impact has been improving over the last three years!
For those that really know these rifles, you'll be nodding your heads in agreement. FX has constantly updated and improved the rifle. To just name a few changes: the C3 bumper problem, updated the regulator to the more robust AMP regulator (and reg creep has dramatically decreased), updated valve rods to remove the few problems that occurred there, increasing the size of the plenum to account for the growing demand for heavier projectile shooting so that users didn't need to shoot at >160 ft lb reg pressures (and all the problems that come with higher pressures for the internals of any gun that runs at high reg pressures and have undersized plenums). These are some of the high profile changes, but there are constant minor changes including o-ring sourcing, strength of fasterners, etc. You see we're with you in that we don't want the rifles to break either as we have this lovely 3 year warranty. If we have issues, our margins erode as we have to spend more resources and time backing up our rifles. Common sense right? (many will continue to nod their heads in agreements, the FX haters will already have started typing a rebuttal...
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The stats don't lie. Certainly comments like "known to be bad air leakers due to bad o-rings" persist and we understand where it comes from. Just wanted to lay out some of the realities as I'll put our quality control and shear numbers of rifles in shooters hands compared to any manufacturer. And considering that I know very well the fail rate of other manufacturers from my 3 years at the head of Airgun Depot, I'd consider the source of info I have at my disposal.
That said, it doesn't bother us that these myths and concerns still float around (and possibly are even propagated by other manufacturers and non-FX retailers), simply we have our hands full keeping up with the growing demand for the FX Impact. So we're good
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Thought this would be educational and info a lot of you would like to know. And yes of course I'm biased towards FX... but ponder on some of those numbers and info shared. Love the passion for our sport and for FX Airguns here on AGN. Keep up the feedback and support as we keep a close eye on all the comments found here and use that to help fuel our progress and innovation. You guys are awesome!
- Jonathan
FX is currently making in excess of 20,000 Impacts a year worldwide. No other high end PCP even comes close to the amount of Impacts on the market. So certainly, like all airguns, there are going to be leaks and repairs that happen if you simply consider the numbers sold. Add to that if you factor in the amount of use the gun finds and how often the trigger is being pulled. The Impact clearly is a special rifle and in general I think it's safe to say that owners are using their Impacts and not letting them collect dust in the corner.
Personally, since I opened up FX USA in November of 2017, I've seen first hand the amount of rifles that come in for service work. And if you compare the amount of guns that we sell to the amount of service work, the numbers are staggering (in a good way). Meaning, though we are exponentially selling more rifles, the amount of Impacts coming in for service work remain relatively flat. I've had just 4 techs for the last two years be able to stay on top of our work. Meaning the quality control of the Impact has been improving over the last three years!
For those that really know these rifles, you'll be nodding your heads in agreement. FX has constantly updated and improved the rifle. To just name a few changes: the C3 bumper problem, updated the regulator to the more robust AMP regulator (and reg creep has dramatically decreased), updated valve rods to remove the few problems that occurred there, increasing the size of the plenum to account for the growing demand for heavier projectile shooting so that users didn't need to shoot at >160 ft lb reg pressures (and all the problems that come with higher pressures for the internals of any gun that runs at high reg pressures and have undersized plenums). These are some of the high profile changes, but there are constant minor changes including o-ring sourcing, strength of fasterners, etc. You see we're with you in that we don't want the rifles to break either as we have this lovely 3 year warranty. If we have issues, our margins erode as we have to spend more resources and time backing up our rifles. Common sense right? (many will continue to nod their heads in agreements, the FX haters will already have started typing a rebuttal...
)The stats don't lie. Certainly comments like "known to be bad air leakers due to bad o-rings" persist and we understand where it comes from. Just wanted to lay out some of the realities as I'll put our quality control and shear numbers of rifles in shooters hands compared to any manufacturer. And considering that I know very well the fail rate of other manufacturers from my 3 years at the head of Airgun Depot, I'd consider the source of info I have at my disposal.
That said, it doesn't bother us that these myths and concerns still float around (and possibly are even propagated by other manufacturers and non-FX retailers), simply we have our hands full keeping up with the growing demand for the FX Impact. So we're good
.Thought this would be educational and info a lot of you would like to know. And yes of course I'm biased towards FX... but ponder on some of those numbers and info shared. Love the passion for our sport and for FX Airguns here on AGN. Keep up the feedback and support as we keep a close eye on all the comments found here and use that to help fuel our progress and innovation. You guys are awesome!
- Jonathan
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I have 2 now and have had 2 others one I bought for 800.00 because the guy said it was leaking all the time and he hated it . I bought it to learn how to work on them . I have never had any issues with the 3 that I have had besides that one . And I bought a full oring kit and completely dismantled it so I could learn the ins and outs of it . Put it all back together and it still works just fine with no leaks that I know of . I sold it to a friend and I'm sure he would let me know if it was not working correctly..so I would not be afraid to get one and give it a try. There awesome shooting weapons. And once you tear one apart there not really that hard to work on . There are plenty of videos on youtube I used ernest for most of what I watched
Hope this helps
Dan
Hope this helps
Dan
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I am always amazed at how many people beat on the Impact and FX in general, especially those that don’t actually have one. That leads to information getting to people like the OP about them being known to be leakers. I have had absolutely no problem with my Impact, or any of the 4 other FX rifles that I own. I absolutely love them, and with a three year warranty, plus a good reputation for service, I am comfortable enough that I just bought another one (Wildcat MK !!! Compact) on Sunday from Ken Hicks at SPAW.
Chris
Chris
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Impacts IMO def. seem like the way to go. I started years ago with just a basic pump daisy type air rifle for vermin attacking the plants on my very small farm I built. I have also been seeing a large number of javelinas and Coyote recently here in South Phoenix near South Mountain and I worry about them attacking my dogs who play around outside unsupervised often. Also in South Phoenix, we have a weirdly large number of pigeons that are just straight pests from the city. (Why does every city have pigeons lol.) I moved out to the desert from New York City and was like nice it's the desert these birds shouldn't be as much of a problem. LIE. it's like someone brought them over from New York like Oh I miss home. haha
I own some property near Florence a little warehouse with some indoor growing possibilities and def. have a larger pest to deal with I invested in an Impact (Thank you Utah Airguns) and wow what a godsend. Thinking of either upgrading my scope ( i have a used Vortex) or purchasing a different gun... I'd like a bigger gun at home and one kept on my other property.
I own some property near Florence a little warehouse with some indoor growing possibilities and def. have a larger pest to deal with I invested in an Impact (Thank you Utah Airguns) and wow what a godsend. Thinking of either upgrading my scope ( i have a used Vortex) or purchasing a different gun... I'd like a bigger gun at home and one kept on my other property.
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Thanks Jonathan for the quick reply. You said everything I needed to hear in order to make up my mind to buy one. That's why I joined AGN, to get honest reply's from FX owners. But the icing on the cake is when you get the "Big Guy" posting an answer to my question.. Now that's service. Thank you Sir... No fear making my purchase now... Jonathan, after the three year warranty period if the rifle needs work does the factory do repair work and what's the cost per hour?
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Thanks for chiming in Jonathan, very good points you have expressed. Goes back to the Ford/Chevy/Dodge garage work being done versus the Mercedes and BMW's. Another thing that can lead to leaking and repair issues is the ability to add modifications by the owner for an enhanced shooting experience although not totally necessary. There's a good chance that when we tear into the Impact to add say a power plenum, change out hammer springs, swap out barrels etc there is a decent chance you'll create an issue yourself. I really love the Impact's platform for the sheer advantage of tunability, caliber swaps and the unending possibilities of the projectiles that can be shot. I also enjoy my Crown and Regal but the Impact is the one I really enjoy not only shooting but trying different things. It just keeps it interesting to me.
Jking
Jking
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We should remember, there are only 2 types of PCP rifles, those that are leaking, and those that are between leaks. A gadget held together by O rings and placed under 200+ bar of pressure has no other future.
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I have had 3 impacts with no problems at all and love them.keep in mind for the past 5 years other manufacturers have tried their best to copy the impact and have not succeeded. Also if it has an oring, at some point in time it will get out.
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I think a lot of the issues stem from the amount of adjustability of the gun and lack of knowledge. People wanted it to be able to do a variety of things, and it can. But not everyone knows how to get there without running into issues along the way.
If you are going to get one buy it and don't mess with the adjustments as it will shoot 'lights out' out of the box. In the meantime learn as much about the gun and how each adjustment affects the others and ask questions. Only then should you attempt to mess with the adjustments. When you do decide to mess with it, do not swap out parts yet until you have mastered the adjustments and know how to get where you need to be.
If you are going to get one buy it and don't mess with the adjustments as it will shoot 'lights out' out of the box. In the meantime learn as much about the gun and how each adjustment affects the others and ask questions. Only then should you attempt to mess with the adjustments. When you do decide to mess with it, do not swap out parts yet until you have mastered the adjustments and know how to get where you need to be.
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Healthservices,
All I can say is thank you. You said it all to me. I have a chance to get one and I'm going to do it.. Hope he still has it tomorrow... Thank you to all that have replied.
All I can say is thank you. You said it all to me. I have a chance to get one and I'm going to do it.. Hope he still has it tomorrow... Thank you to all that have replied.
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That is true. Many use the impact as a platform of how to learn to tune (myself included), as one basically doeas not need to dismantle the gun. Owner which may owned a traditional rifle, where reg is set, and hidden inside the gun will probably in most cases never be tampered with. While on the impact allot of adjustments are accesible from the outside. Combining that with an unexperianced owner there will be greater margin for error.
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I owned an Impact. It never leaked. I would not hesitate to recommend one and will likely own another in the future. Jonathan is speaking the truth. The more you sell, the more likely that a few will have problems. It’s simply the Law of Averages. It has been said that a person who is happy with a product will tell 3 others, but a person who is unhappy will tell 12 others-and that was said before the Internet was that which it is today.
The one thing I greatly respect about FX is they listen to their customers and try to address the issues the average users, not subsidized users, report to them. I brought up several of the issues Jonathon mentioned before ordering from my dealer, and most had already been addressed by FX. I prefer their way of operating to some manufacturers who claim to be perfect, blame everything on the end user, and say “if you don’t like the way I make my perfect product, don’t buy buy it”. I take their advice-i don’t buy from them.
Go ahead and order that Impact. You will love it!
The one thing I greatly respect about FX is they listen to their customers and try to address the issues the average users, not subsidized users, report to them. I brought up several of the issues Jonathon mentioned before ordering from my dealer, and most had already been addressed by FX. I prefer their way of operating to some manufacturers who claim to be perfect, blame everything on the end user, and say “if you don’t like the way I make my perfect product, don’t buy buy it”. I take their advice-i don’t buy from them.
Go ahead and order that Impact. You will love it!
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