Fx m4 vs fx king discussion!

So you still have FX greener grass syndrome even with an AGT? Or is there room for improvement over what the HP2’s are doing? Because personally, 100 shots with a 25gr .22 slug known for its expansion at 940 is no joke. Unless accuracy is an issue. Or the sheer size of what you’re hunting.
Also what do you mean by still have FX greener grass? Cause I would give the pantheru hunter compact a chance?
 
The M4 is wonderful. I’ve been. Shooting impacts for 4 years. No problems here. I was set up with 33grn slugs for ground squirrels. Hammers them out to 150 yards. Generally shooting 50-125. Recently I’ve been on dairy farm. The birds are hiding from me. Using 25gn slugs and getting 100 shots per fill.
Now the Panthera is a wonderful gun. It was my second squirrel shooter. Never an issue, shot fantastic. But now I have the drs which is wonderful also.
typically I shoot off a bench, hooked directly to my big air bottle. Never worry about how many shots I can take. On the dairy farm, I am on foot using a tripod. Shot count is important as well as the shorter Impact, mine is a 700, is easier to deal with. To me, the impact is more versatile and flat out works. If you like the look and feel of a more traditional gun, then the King would be the one. Is one better than the other. Not really. Same barrels, just a difference in how they are set up.
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Sick! Im hoping to open up the U2 700mm this weekend to turn up the heat a bit. Currently shooting the 25gr Hn hp2 at 940fps somehow getting over 100 shots per fill from 290b. Looking to push 28.5gr VK around 980fps which I know it can do easily.

Yessir! Have a look.

Thread 'FX M4 in .177 practically new $1900 shipped' https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/fx-m4-in-177-practically-new-1900-shipped.1324375/
Not sure what is crazier. How deep they had to go into a gun right out of the box to fix it, especially being that vendor tests everything before it leaves. Or thinking you will get 1900 for it.
 
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The M4 is wonderful. I’ve been. Shooting impacts for 4 years. No problems here. I was set up with 33grn slugs for ground squirrels. Hammers them out to 150 yards. Generally shooting 50-125. Recently I’ve been on dairy farm. The birds are hiding from me. Using 25gn slugs and getting 100 shots per fill.
Now the Panthera is a wonderful gun. It was my second squirrel shooter. Never an issue, shot fantastic. But now I have the drs which is wonderful also.
typically I shoot off a bench, hooked directly to my big air bottle. Never worry about how many shots I can take. On the dairy farm, I am on foot using a tripod. Shot count is important as well as the shorter Impact, mine is a 700, is easier to deal with. To me, the impact is more versatile and flat out works. If you like the look and feel of a more traditional gun, then the King would be the one. Is one better than the other. Not really. Same barrels, just a difference in how they are set up.View attachment 522015
Great input and photo
 
The M4 is wonderful. I’ve been. Shooting impacts for 4 years. No problems here. I was set up with 33grn slugs for ground squirrels. Hammers them out to 150 yards. Generally shooting 50-125. Recently I’ve been on dairy farm. The birds are hiding from me. Using 25gn slugs and getting 100 shots per fill.
Now the Panthera is a wonderful gun. It was my second squirrel shooter. Never an issue, shot fantastic. But now I have the drs which is wonderful also.
typically I shoot off a bench, hooked directly to my big air bottle. Never worry about how many shots I can take. On the dairy farm, I am on foot using a tripod. Shot count is important as well as the shorter Impact, mine is a 700, is easier to deal with. To me, the impact is more versatile and flat out works. If you like the look and feel of a more traditional gun, then the King would be the one. Is one better than the other. Not really. Same barrels, just a difference in how they are set up.View attachment 522015
well said and nice rig!
 
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Not sure what is crazier. How deep they had to go into a gun right out of the box to fix it, especially being that vendor tests everything before it leaves. Or thinking you will get 1900 for it.
I applaud him for being transparent, but his best bet would've been to replace it when he sent it. Unless he couldn't replace it due to damaging the rail trying to fix it. He's gonna have a hard time selling it.
 
The M4 is wonderful. I’ve been. Shooting impacts for 4 years. No problems here. I was set up with 33grn slugs for ground squirrels. Hammers them out to 150 yards. Generally shooting 50-125. Recently I’ve been on dairy farm. The birds are hiding from me. Using 25gn slugs and getting 100 shots per fill.
Now the Panthera is a wonderful gun. It was my second squirrel shooter. Never an issue, shot fantastic. But now I have the drs which is wonderful also.
typically I shoot off a bench, hooked directly to my big air bottle. Never worry about how many shots I can take. On the dairy farm, I am on foot using a tripod. Shot count is important as well as the shorter Impact, mine is a 700, is easier to deal with. To me, the impact is more versatile and flat out works. If you like the look and feel of a more traditional gun, then the King would be the one. Is one better than the other. Not really. Same barrels, just a difference in how they are set up.View attachment 522015
Sick set up!
 
Also what do you mean by still have FX greener grass? Cause I would give the pantheru hunter compact a chance?
No, it has nothing to do with the Panthera. It’s having or in some cases claiming to have the ultimate accurate gun but the next you know you have a new pack of different projectiles and are twisting the reg. I battle it also. But I’ve found ways to control it. Or almost.

All my powder burners have been on the same load since I dialed them in. Some for 30 years. I think because of how convenient it is to test new or whim ideas with airguns, it’s hard to set and live happily ever after with them. Then what happens is you develop another hobby within a hobby. Testing. Then that hobby becomes almost a disorder. We are not happy unless we are testing something new. My buddies and I call it GGS.
 
No, it has nothing to do with the Panthera. It’s having or in some cases claiming to have the ultimate accurate gun but the next you know you have a new pack of different projectiles and are twisting the reg. I battle it also. But I’ve found ways to control it. Or almost.

All my powder burners have been on the same load since I dialed them in. Some for 30 years. I think because of how convenient it is to test new or whim ideas with airguns, it’s hard to set and live happily ever after with them. Then what happens is you develop another hobby within a hobby. Testing. Then that hobby becomes almost a disorder. We are not happy unless we are testing something new. My buddies and I call it GGS.
Ahhhh, yes! I suffer from that. That's one of the bigger reasons why I stay away from FX. If I can't turn everything too easily, then it makes it easier for me to leave alone, even then..here I am wanting a bit more power. At least it's for a set purpose though.
 
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Some good ones escape! Way to end on a high note lol. Yeah I have a love hate relationship with fx. I love my dreamline classic!!
If you’ve owned some quality guns, it’s easy to have a love hate relationship with FX’s. You just try to hold them to the standard that your other guns have set. Nothing wrong with that. I’ve always just considered them a bombshell girlfriend or wife. You put up with her because you‘re in love and the good days are great. The bad days? Well at least she’s beautiful and I’m still infatuated. So I tolerate it.
 
If you’ve owned some quality guns, it’s easy to have a love hate relationship with FX’s. You just try to hold them to the standard that your other guns have set. Nothing wrong with that. I’ve always just considered them a bombshell girlfriend or wife. You put up with her because you‘re in love and the good days are great. The bad days? Well at least she’s beautiful and I’m still infatuated. So I tolerate it.
This is by far the best comparison I've heard to date.
 
Ahhhh, yes! I suffer from that. That's one of the bigger reasons why I stay away from FX. If I can't turn everything too easily, then it makes it easier for me to leave alone, even then..here I am wanting a bit more power. At least it's for a set purpose though.
Yes, you have a purpose because it’s your livelihood. But if you were cleansing FL of lizards with a powder burner, would you constantly be sitting at the loading press trying new loads? Probably not. And that’s one of the tiny details that guys overlook when they see a post with some groups and a guy bragging. Guys need to get a little more focused when conducting investigations. The guy who has been shooting the same projectile for a year is the one they need to pay attention to. He found something that definitely works long term.
 
Yes, you have a purpose because it’s your livelihood. But if you were cleansing FL of lizards with a powder burner, would you constantly be sitting at the loading press trying new loads? Probably not. And that’s one of the tiny details that guys overlook when they see a post with some groups and a guy bragging. Guys need to get a little more focused when conducting investigations. The guy who has been shooting the same projectile for a year is the one they need to pay attention to. He found something that definitely works long term.
Oh definitely not. I say it all the time though, if I could use my 17hmr or my 17WSM to legally cull iguanas, it's all I would ever use. And I would buy enough to last me 10years in one go
 
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Yes, you have a purpose because it’s your livelihood. But if you were cleansing FL of lizards with a powder burner, would you constantly be sitting at the loading press trying new loads? Probably not. And that’s one of the tiny details that guys overlook when they see a post with some groups and a guy bragging. Guys need to get a little more focused when conducting investigations. The guy who has been shooting the same projectile for a year is the one they need to pay attention to. He found something that definitely works long term.
Very well said. I do not worry about perfect accuracy. I have ground squirrel accuracy and bird accuracy. And it works. I know that in most cases, what I point at drops. I sure do not need anything better.
 
I have had 3 Impacts and been generally pleased until the MK4 started to give erratic first few FPS shots. Switched over to the King FAC. Extremely consistent and accurate at ranges out to 150m. The only downside is that it's a bit of a lump to carry around all day. The King is a superb long range sniper type rifle, but equally as good for short range ratting. I have a DNT 5-20 digital night scope on board which is equally impressive. Also the King is much simpler to tune for an extreme spread in single figures all the time.
 
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My gun has spent more time at dealer with warranty on fps up and downs now then it has been with me. Fx Sweden sent utah all new factory issued parts that are meant to fix on going fps issues. So all new guns at factory will be fixed. My parts should fix mine. Its a complete back half rebuild on my gun. Tech said my M4 .177 was most accurate he's seen when the fps issues levels out.
 
My gun has spent more time at dealer with warranty on fps up and downs now then it has been with me. Fx Sweden sent utah all new factory issued parts that are meant to fix on going fps issues. So all new guns at factory will be fixed. My parts should fix mine. Its a complete back half rebuild on my gun. Tech said my M4 .177 was most accurate he's seen when the fps issues levels out.
Can take thousands of shots for the FPS curse to shows up . My 22 sniper is with your shooter and I feel your pain . But I love the power and long range accuracy enough to put up with the fix . My amigo has about 1000 through his no curse YET ! He bought his after shooting 5 shot sub 1/2 inch group with mine at 100 yds . I should say X-amigo . Out shot me with my own gun . :cry:
 
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I have never owned a King but I have owned a couple of impacts. If I had to choose today with mainly hunting in mind it would no doubt be the king. The impact suffers from the first few shots being low velocity after sitting. That is a big hindrance for hunting. I don’t believe the king has that. Plus the king has a much more rigid barrel system. You don’t hear about a wandering POI in that platform like you do when it comes to the impact. I did not experience this in my guns much but have read about it quite a bit. The downside to the king is unless you can live with the ugliest stock ever put on a rifle (synthetic version) you are going to have to spend a few hundred dollars more on it.
You need to rebuild your regulators with new O rings.
 
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That will be tricky seeing as how most M4 guys are still on their honeymoon, some clueless and some in denial. If you liked your M3 you’ll like a M4.
I like my M2. Never had an issue. Of course I have never changed the factory settings since I bought it. Maybe you fiddlers should put the tools away.
 
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