Tuning *~*~ FX Maverick - Compact N' .25 Cal PLEASE CHIME -In! HELP!

[CheckUrSix]

Firstly......I am still trying to get past the Dumb Butt Safety? Oh Well!.......However w/ larger Plenum than the M3 & potentially more adj power w/ 2 regs.......Just as the M3 am I missing sompt'n?

Any One with Hands on W Mav . 25 cal Compact ...... VS......... FX Impact compact M3 or MK II & +' & -'s

Thanks immensely guys.

 

[yenniedn]

I gotta say, I've never seen anyone put some much research into trying to decide between a couple of rifles based on the number of similar threads you've created over the last few weeks on the Impact vs. Maverick, MkII vs. M3, 500mm vs. 600mm barrel, etc.

Where are you seeing that Maverick has a bigger plenum than the M3? A couple of the reasons for the M3 upgrade was to increase the plenum from the already larger Power Plenum on the MkII to the 720 Plenum on the M3...and also to add the 2nd regulator to the Impact like the Maverick has. So in terms of plenum size and # of regs, there shouldn't much or any difference between the Maverick and M3.

These two upgraded features (and others) make the M3 an all around better gun than the Maverick.

 

[CheckUrSix]

Thanks I ThiMk'? on Z research angle Yep Do-Not Like the OPP's Factor did the same on what I believe to be my Lexas LC 500....Sorta sports car Normally aspirated!

So, on the Plenum.......Right off Utah Airguns site.......Says " tandem with the large 89cc Power Plenum : on the Mavereck!

The diff on Plenum is about the same as going from the MK II to the M3@72 CCs....More is better IMO!...Additionally, the Mav has (2) regs as well!!!.......See below:

https://utahairguns.com/fx-maverick-compact/





This is why All the goofy research.......Do-Not Do well with a $2000.00 + or - OPP's!.....in Anything!

 

[Keith2324]

I gotta say, I've never seen anyone put some much research into trying to decide between a couple of rifles based on the number of similar threads you've created over the last few weeks on the Impact vs. Maverick, MkII vs. M3, 500mm vs. 600mm barrel, etc.

Where are you seeing that Maverick has a bigger plenum than the M3? A couple of the reasons for the M3 upgrade was to increase the plenum from the already larger Power Plenum on the MkII to the 720 Plenum on the M3…and also to add the 2nd regulator to the Impact like the Maverick has. So in terms of plenum size and # of regs, there shouldn't much or any difference between the Maverick and M3.

These two upgraded features (and others) make the M3 an all around better gun than the Maverick.

Straight from FX website. If you are going to blast someone, at least know the facts.

MAVERICK

The Dual Regulators work in tandem with the large 89cc Power Plenum. This large plenum, paired proportionately with the correct porting and valving, allows for a more consistent working pressure to be delivered. FX Maverick owners also have the option of picking up the FX Maverick Slug Power Kit. This kit includes a heavier hammer and slug pin probes that allow for even more power and velocities for heavier projectiles.



M3

The FX Power Plenum 720 is the new energy source of the Impact M3. This larger diameter plenum and its 72cc volume of compressed air provides both the precise amount of air and the power needed to propel the projectile. This new plenum works in coordination with the M3’s porting and valving to deliver the best power and efficiency available.

 

[CheckUrSix]

 

Attn: keith3234 above:

"Blast" someone was NEVER any intention!...but rather LEARN!

The orig question/Comment was the size of the Plenum........ Please see above..." Where are you seeing that Maverick has a bigger plenum than the M3? 

The Mav seems to have a LARGER Plenum than the M3..........How did I misconstrue this off Utah Site?

 

[Solo1]

The maverick does have a larger plenum. I don’t have a m3 or mk2 never shot 1. I would ask what your looking for in the gun? Absolute power best bet probably m3 but not by much. M3 is more complex and has a slightly better trigger and no ping in your ear. It might have a very slight advantage of being easier to shoot as it has more weight forward. Maverick is simpler slightly lighter and nearly as powerful. Both use the same barrels so accuracy should be equal. Don’t know what else i can say to help you more other than my stock 22 sniper maverick shot 910 fps with 27.5 gr nsa with the second reg at 112 bar

 

[CheckUrSix]

Solo;

May I inquire as to why you have gone slugs?...Instead of say Hades?.........Albeit, i maybe for more Mass and speed re-tension @ 100 yards + I simply noted you are using NSA stuff....good slugs, however more and more For short range stalking/hunting & fun not just sitt'n there sniping for me in .25 the slugs seem to pass through without as much expansion as the Hades?

 

[qball]

The maverick does have a much larger plenum, reason for that is that it’s the original air tube so they just added an inline regulator at a convenient location and gave it a massive plenum. It also has the wildcat valves which isn’t as big/powerful as the impact. So comparing by plenum size alone doesn’t do the rest of the gun justice. They both shoot exceptionally well, comparing performance is mostly a moot point so the decision really boils down to the difference that doesn’t have as much to do with performance. 


You specifically said you hate the safety and M3 has everything where you want it and have no ping in the ear. Plus much better adjustability, a lot smoother shooting, much larger mag, smoother cocking lever, much better fine tuning capabilities.......just a much nicer gun overall! Think of it as the Lexus ES vs Toyota Camry, they both get you there but one is much nicer. 


At the end of the day if you can afford the extra 300 dollars get the M3 without a doubt!!! Money/price point is really the only determining factor. 

 

[Keith2324]

@CheckUrSix that wasn't for you. It was for @yenniedn.

 

[Solo1]

Solo;

May I inquire as to why you have gone slugs?...Instead of say Hades?.........Albeit, i maybe for more Mass and speed re-tension @ 100 yards + I simply noted you are using NSA stuff....good slugs, however more and more For short range stalking/hunting & fun not just sitt'n there sniping for me in .25 the slugs seem to pass through without as much expansion as the Hades?

Well i was away from airguns for a few years so slugs are the new thing to learn about. I have 2 Mavericks 1 177 and 1 22 and shoot slugs out of both Bought the 22 to hunt and the 177 for field target. Am most interested in the bc and lesser wind drift. I do also shoot pellets my 22 will push 25.4 to 950 on the same settings as slugs. I was hoping for 50-55 fpe out of it with a good shot count. I think i get over a hundred on a fill. Oh i thought being able to possible pop a coyote in head at 100 would be cool

 

[yenniedn]

@CheckUrSix that wasn't for you. It was for @yenniedn.

If you call that blasting someone, you either haven't been on these online forums for very long or are more sensitive than I am.

First, yes, I was unaware that the Maverick has a 89cc plenum so, yes, it does have a larger plenum than the M3. So I learned something new today but the reason I didn't know the size of the Maverick plenum is because I've never seriously considered owning one. I have two great shooting MkII's that have just been replaced by two equally good shooting M3's. While the few upgrades on the M3 are nice, I can honestly say that the ~$400-$500 price difference to "upgrade" to an M3 (then selling off a perfectly good MkII at a reduced price) isn't really worth it to me. The plenum on the MkII was an improvement over the original and was more than adequate for my needs so bumping it up to 72cc is diminishing returns for me. If that's the case, an even bigger 89cc plenum is beyond overkill and, as qball said, that alone won't equate to more overall power due to differences in the valving.

 

[stoti]

Slugs can be very accurate, have probably double the BC of the Hades, have far better energy retention and the soft lead - large hollow points creates devastating expansion on game animals. The Hades is pretty accurate inside 50yds but beyond that, they’re not the most accurate option available. Slugs are accurate at 30yds and 150yds, so you’re covered at any distance. I’ve shot a lot of slugs and don’t see any pass throughs, even on little birds, they just explode! Once you shoot a couple of birds or digger squirrels with a slug and see the damage they cause, you’ll be sold. Accuracy has gotten better and better with all of the different slugs available and the prices are now very reasonable, thats a big part of why so many people are using them for hunting or long range shooting these days. Give them a try, you’ll love the performance!

Below are just some of the many .25 cal. slugs I’ve tested over the past few years in the various FX slug liners and LW polygonal barrels.

Stoti

 

[Glem.Chally]

Slugs can be very accurate, have probably double the BC of the Hades, have far better energy retention and the soft lead - large hollow points creates devastating expansion on game animals. The Hades is pretty accurate inside 50yds but beyond that, they’re not the most accurate option available. Slugs are accurate at 30yds and 150yds, so you’re covered at any distance. I’ve shot a lot of slugs and don’t see any pass throughs, even on little birds, they just explode! Once you shoot a couple of birds or digger squirrels with a slug and see the damage they cause, you’ll be sold. Accuracy has gotten better and better with all of the different slugs available and the prices are now very reasonable, thats a big part of why so many people are using them for hunting or long range shooting these days. Give them a try, you’ll love the performance!

Below are just some of the many slugs I’ve tested over the past few years in the various FX slug liners and LW polygonal barrels.

Stoti

Those slugs lined up is a wicked picture!

 

[mtnGhost]

Slugs can be very accurate, have probably double the BC of the Hades, have far better energy retention and the soft lead - large hollow points creates devastating expansion on game animals. The Hades is pretty accurate inside 50yds but beyond that, they’re not the most accurate option available. Slugs are accurate at 30yds and 150yds, so you’re covered at any distance. I’ve shot a lot of slugs and don’t see any pass throughs, even on little birds, they just explode! Once you shoot a couple of birds or digger squirrels with a slug and see the damage they cause, you’ll be sold. Accuracy has gotten better and better with all of the different slugs available and the prices are now very reasonable, thats a big part of why so many people are using them for hunting or long range shooting these days. Give them a try, you’ll love the performance!

Below are just some of the many slugs I’ve tested over the past few years in the various FX slug liners and LW polygonal barrels.

Stoti

I second this. The Hades in .25 & .30 have been accurate for me to around 65y, but no pellet in the world is going to buck the wind past 50y like slugs will.

The Hades are good at transferring energy and tearing up whatever they hit for sure, but that's not always desirable (especially if you plan to harvest meat or fur from the prey). The BCs are abysmal though.

I do prefer my little .22cal PCPs with Hades for hunting and pesting inside 50y, but most my shots are taken in sub-alpine terrain, where I mostly have one of my Taipans (or my longer Leshiy) loaded up with slugs or my custom Maverick compact with 50gr JSBs. I decide on taking one or the other "truck guns" depending entirely upon the weather and location.

As far as the FX thing goes, my Maverick has evolved into something extraordinary. I machined the TJ in that thing to work perfectly with the rifle. I'd put that rifle up against any other pellet rifle out there up to 100m anytime. That said, I don't change calibers, tunes, or ammo (despite being able to crank it up for 62-66gr slugs), so the 50gr JSBs are all that I shoot with it.


The power wheel allows me to change the velocity between 600-915fps, and that's pretty much all that I want out of it. If you're the ADHD type with ammo / calibers, I would definitely recommend the Impact over the Maverick.

 

[CheckUrSix]

Stoti:

Now That is some Serious testing!.... Soooooo, I searched Far & Wide and I see no FX Hybrids in your bunch? ....I only address this as a user of an M3 "Compact" the exhibiting the obvious issue is a Short 500 mm barrel & shooting heavier .25s at approx 970 fps becomes an issue and pushing the M3 COMPACT platform...........

Sure I like anyone can go w/ 700 mm barrel ....... however wishing to keep this config Short and light weight and shooting mostly 35 to 75 yards I do not need the heavier slugs.

Might you have insight as to your experience w/ slugs and keeping the gun "COMPACT" with a 500mm barrel....might there be a Slug & liner applicable Suggestion for the 5oo mm

Might you have used the JSB Hybrid as @ mnly 26 grain the 500 mm barrel beter valves and larger Plenum has no problem pushing the Hybrids 970fps accuratly with iin the given 35 to 75 or maybe 100 yards

 

[triggertreat]

The maverick does have a much larger plenum, reason for that is that it’s the original air tube so they just added an inline regulator at a convenient location and gave it a massive plenum. It also has the wildcat valves which isn’t as big/powerful as the impact. So comparing by plenum size alone doesn’t do the rest of the gun justice. They both shoot exceptionally well, comparing performance is mostly a moot point so the decision really boils down to the difference that doesn’t have as much to do with performance. 


You specifically said you hate the safety and M3 has everything where you want it and have no ping in the ear. Plus much better adjustability, a lot smoother shooting, much larger mag, smoother cocking lever, much better fine tuning capabilities.......just a much nicer gun overall! Think of it as the Lexus ES vs Toyota Camry, they both get you there but one is much nicer. 


At the end of the day if you can afford the extra 300 dollars get the M3 without a doubt!!! Money/price point is really the only determining factor.

Well said and concise! I summited for an accuracy bump for you.