FX Panthera Over-hype Video ???

Should I create a poll?
How long after the first release is shipped, will the first panthera be listed for sale in the classifieds?? One day, one week, two weeks, month…?
Who knows, but I for one am waiting for that. First, awaiting the consensus on it delivering on the promises, then I will be there to "help out" one who's life situation changes and they need to unload it. Looking for a purpose built .177 slugger, and my hope is that the Panthera is just that.
 
To answer the question at the end of your video;

Without even pondering the question the Panthera 10 fold, as a Hunter the Panthera, for my style hunting is a far superior tool then a Crown.


It really depends

- lower power situations crown/Dreamline are sublime
- for tight, heavily brush/wooded areas where a shorter gun is needed then Impact/wildcat BT are sick
- for open areas, where longer shots and high power slugs needed the Panthera would be amazing
- for my little backyard pests the dreamtac compact is just ridiculous

Isn’t it grand we have such amazing options I mean marketing/hype these days? 😜
 
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Who knows, but I for one am waiting for that. First, awaiting the consensus on it delivering on the promises, then I will be there to "help out" one who's life situation changes and they need to unload it. Looking for a purpose built .177 slugger, and my hope is that the Panthera is just that.


Great strategy! Sadly I don’t like the fact that even the new superior heavy 177 liners only have 1:18 twist rate so if you are dead set on a 177 slugger I would recommend to wait till they come out with a much faster twist rate barrel/liner first! The new 1:18 superior heavy liners seem to be made for the EU sub12 market.

I really hope they have a 1:12 177 barrel for us in Murica one of these years.
 
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To answer the question at the end of your video;

Without even pondering the question the Panthera 10 fold, as a Hunter the Panthera, for my style hunting is a far superior tool then a Crown.
Air, nice, just curious on peoples thoughts more thought provoking than an absolute answer. Thanks for the reply.
 
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It really depends

- lower power situations crown/Dreamline are sublime
- for tight, heavily brush/wooded areas where a shorter gun is needed then Impact/wildcat BT are sick
- for open areas, where longer shots and high power slugs needed the Panthera would be amazing
- for my little backyard pests the dreamtac compact is just ridiculous

Isn’t it grand we have such amazing options I mean marketing m/hype these days? 😜
Actually for hunting in heavy brush/wooder area ( and that is what I do ) I take the Panthera over the Impact anyday,...anyday ;)
 
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I don’t get the analysis of “hype/marketing”, while I think jaydog has good intention but I think he missed the fact FX is marketing to rimfire guys, airgun market is VERY saturated and HUGE opportunities lies in the PB/rimfire world. Matt’s video specifically said purposely built for NR22 and PRS trainer rifle. Airgun PRS is niche within a niche that’s within a niche!

Not sure how to make FX “marketing” more clear here……..FX is NOT trying to “market” the Panthera to us airgunners!!!

Cracks me up when all the FX haters spend time to dis FX marketing especially with this gun when FX isn’t even trying to “marketing” to them. Reminds me of when in high school the hot girl in class smiles and wave at you, you waved back but realized she is waving to someone behind you. 🤣🤣🤣
Well I'm not so sure on that view ?
There is a current Video of the new Panthera rifle out hunting tree lizards with an FX staff member present ....
There touting Long Range accuracy & consistency well beyond NR22 & PRS distances .

It appears VERY MUCH SO there marketing to us airgunners !!!

FX does not care who buys the rifle or how used ... Just interested in selling air rifles period !!!
 
Well generally FX is really good at marketing and over hype is real. Their products simply arent revolutionary or superior vs others in anyway. Yet they always make it sound like that and alot of ppl buy it 100%. Im not aware of anything new they have managed to come by outside of those liners that Im not personally fan of.
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i think that this speaks for itself
 
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So does this. Not sure what your point is?

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Although it’s “purpose built” for NRL-22/PRS, anyone want to bet we see more than one or two shooting 100Y BR at RMAC?
The two things that stand out to me on this gun are the plenum located around the breech end of the barrel, and the short throw high volume valve. We’ll most definitely see that valve on other FX models in the coming year.
 
Great strategy! Sadly I don’t like the fact that even the new superior heavy 177 liners only have 1:18 twist rate so if you are dead set on a 177 slugger I would recommend to wait till they come out with a much faster twist rate barrel/liner first! The new 1:18 superior heavy liners seem to be made for the EU sub12 market.

I really hope they have a 1:12 177 barrel for us in Murica one of these years.
Going to explore that .177 barrel TR with JSAR on my Raptor mini.
 
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FX does not care who buys the rifle or how used ... Just interested in selling air rifles period !!!

Have to agree that they ultimately don’t care who buys it but at the same time they are spending more energy to expand their target market as the current airgun market is limited especially when it comes to PRS or competition in general. Case and point is if we look at our little Sac valley shooting center calendar we have whopping 1 airgun competition per month while just about every one of the 8 private ranges are reserved for firearm competitions every single weekend. I posted about the 22LR/long range matches and with all the talks of long range shooting NO ONE showed up besides you can Cameron. Long range, slugs, competition and PRS…….niche markets with limited volume within the current airgun community.

From our point of view marketing is pretty loud because it’s convenient but I certainly did not see the amount coverage on PB channels when M3 was released.
 
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Wasent it that Italian car brand with the red sports cars that once had it so you would have to be approved to buy a car ????

And many rich people probably was and some of them probably totalled the car in a year.
Where as if some guy winning a little in the lottery and wanted to spend just about every penny would get ditched by that car brand,,,,, even if that guy would probably take much better care of his car VS what these rich people do,,,,, and many of then rich doing at best questionable things.

Not caring about your product would be bad practice, pretending to care would also be bad, and caring too much probably also bad
So just care, do good stuff, be happy.
 
It's a Niche rifle used in a part of the sport I'm not interested in. I'm surprised they developed a rifle for that sport as the PRS shooters who use .22 LR I don't think are going to give those up for an Airgun that you have to refill after every stage.

My prediction, this rifle is short lived. We'll just see.
 
It's a Niche rifle used in a part of the sport I'm not interested in. I'm surprised they developed a rifle for that sport as the PRS shooters who use .22 LR I don't think are going to give those up for an Airgun that you have to refill after every stage.

My prediction, this rifle is short lived. We'll just see.


Great point and only time will tell, FX is certainly trying to get into the rimfire and PB crowd. Some of the old timers I know sold all their 22LR stuff but most are shooting BOTH. If this gun delivers I can see they can make a good dent in the 22LR crowd. Key is 22LR ammo price and availability……I think.
 
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So does this. Not sure what your point is?

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Although it’s “purpose built” for NRL-22/PRS, anyone want to bet we see more than one or two shooting 100Y BR at RMAC?
The two things that stand out to me on this gun are the plenum located around the breech end of the barrel, and the short throw high volume valve. We’ll most definitely see that valve on other FX models in the coming year.
Yep exactly they will show up and be used.... to say they are just for PB bench rest is way too much of a niche segment. My gun range will not allow airguns period for any 22 rimfire tournament shooting !!!! I asked multiple times and they all said nope, must be a rimfire 22....
Also used for hunting and various other shooting types make no mistake they are throwing the largest net possible.
 
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It's a Niche rifle used in a part of the sport I'm not interested in. I'm surprised they developed a rifle for that sport as the PRS shooters who use .22 LR I don't think are going to give those up for an Airgun that you have to refill after every stage.

My prediction, this rifle is short lived. We'll just see.
Many PB tournaments wont even allow this rifle or similar airguns. The PB guys are bitching up a storm already. I asked many times and was denied access at my range, even thou the 22 lr would crush with my setup.
 
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If it performs at 100 yards like claimed in the campaign, then you will absolutely see them in the big 100 yard money matches next year.
I'm sure that is their goal. Usually when FX brings out new tech, it ends up in other platforms. I don't shoot matches, but I love to squirrel hunt and I love airguns in general. I'm working on a 100-yard range in my backyard and will have it finished by the spring. So, it will be much easier for me to practice instead of having to go to the range, which is an hour away. Plus, I really think slug accuracy needs to be measured at 100.
 
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Hello everyone and @jaydog

OK my 2-cents worth. The first thing should be that FX and all of the other manufactures "finish" their current products. What I mean, I love my Crown, BUT it was not and still is not "finished", and if you own one you surely do understand. I am still tuning and adjusting and......, and....., waiting for the rifle to shoot good every time that I shoot it. But it doesn't, yes after almost a year I have pretty well tuned it and I do get some really good scores on targets, but I also get some not so good. How much extra money and time have I spent "fixing" what FX did not! I have shot PB for 50+ years and I have in my gun safe a rifle ( custom ) that less the scope cost me less than 1K, and I can get it right now load up a clip of off the shelf ammo and shoot a MOA 4 out of 5 times. Speaking just for myself, I don't need another "new" gun to spend the next year and a bunch of money trying to fix it.

Happy Holidays to all
ThomasT
Is this in reference to your .177 Crown?
 
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