A classic response from a relative NEWB to the forum.
"My Harbor Freight tools smoke all your Milwaukee tools, and my Yugo smokes your Lexus. and my stock Ruger .22 smokes your Anschutz 54"...... WHATEVER!
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"My Harbor Freight tools smoke all your Milwaukee tools, and my Yugo smokes your Lexus. and my stock Ruger .22 smokes your Anschutz 54"...... WHATEVER!
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I wanted an Impact since the first video I watched on them from Ted’s Holdover. I didn’t buy one because of the cost, just more money than I would spend on an air rifle. In 2022 I got viral meningitis and for 3 months wondered if I’d ever be able to see correctly again, be able to go back to work or enjoy doing anything. I had Bells Palsey on my left and then it moved to the right, double vision kept me on the couch and inside for 7 weeks before I forced myself out to walk but mostly had to do it at night. I was a wreck…. Vision took almost exactly the 90 days to be normal that my eye doctor said and I was able to go back to work. About 2 weeks after I got back to work I told my wife I was spending $2300 to buy the air rifle I wanted. I can’t say she was mad but she wasn’t happy either. I didn’t care, I just a true life changing experience and decided I was going to do something while I was able and could enjoy it. I bought an FX Impact M3, 700m in 25 caliber.
I absolutely love this rifle and never experience POI shifts. I guess some do but I don’t. And really, I wouldn’t care if I did. I’m not taking it on a once in a lifetime hunt where I may only take one shot at the game animal of a lifetime. When I go to a farm to shoot pigeons. I can take a shot to check it. It’s quiet, pellets are cheap and it takes seconds. Wind from shot to shot at pigeons sitting on top of an 80 foot silo is going to bigger factor, especially when there are no trees near or as tall as the silos. So, I guess I’ll keep my Impact and will continue to love it…
I absolutely love this rifle and never experience POI shifts. I guess some do but I don’t. And really, I wouldn’t care if I did. I’m not taking it on a once in a lifetime hunt where I may only take one shot at the game animal of a lifetime. When I go to a farm to shoot pigeons. I can take a shot to check it. It’s quiet, pellets are cheap and it takes seconds. Wind from shot to shot at pigeons sitting on top of an 80 foot silo is going to bigger factor, especially when there are no trees near or as tall as the silos. So, I guess I’ll keep my Impact and will continue to love it…
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If you shoot from a bench only at paper I can see that. But I could never find that being a great shooting experience if I had to deal with POI shifts using my gun as a truck gun for pesting. "Dealing" with POI shifts isn't something we should have to deal with when we pay the kind of money we do on PCPs. Regardless of how nice they might be to shoot. To me a great shooting experience is knowing that if I take my gun I haven't shot in 2 weeks out, throwing it in the seat of my truck, bouncing around on our dirt roads and having a pest show up and nail them long range first shot, no warm ups for the reg or checking my zero. Having confidence in my airgun to hit where it needs to no matter what is a great shooting experience.
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I drank the kool-aid and bought a maverick as my first high end pcp....I bought a Taipan vet2 while I was waiting for my maverick to come back from warranty work right out of the box. I like the gun but don't trust it, something is always coming loose. I'm lucky enough to be able to afford another gun. I won't even sell the maverick because I think it's a lemon.
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I agree with you Dairyboy but I don't think FX are the only airguns that shift POI sometimes. If I do not shoot my Air Maks Caiman X for several days is seems very likely it will have shifted a little. For plinking I would not see it but I like shooting 30 yard challenge targets and it is certainly noticable on those. If I shoot it every day it may be fine. But not if it sits for several days. It is a fairly thick CZ barrel - so much different than FXs. It's wearing an Arken EPL-4 scope and the screws are tight. To be clear, the zero is very dependable after a few hours and normally after only a day. But after several days it seems to move.
My 3 P35s are much more dependable for the first shot after they've sat awhile. My 177 sat for several weeks and was dead on the first shot. I am pretty sure the 22 is also dependable. I don't shoot the 25 as much but the first year I had it I killed over a dozen squirrels with it. No time to mess around re-zeroing when a squirrel decides to pay a visit.
I think shifting POI is partly a gun-to-gun kind of thing and partially a design-of-the-gun kind of thing. The thin barrel of the FX is just not the recommended way to get a barrel that stays stable. Some may be there is a reason benchrest guns come with thick barrels. I know that FX wins lots of competitions but I would be surprised if the shooters can depend on the zero they established the first day when they come back the second. I also wonder if clamping the barrel to the action along it's length like the P35 does and I think the Wildcat does may not help. It should make it act like a much shorter stiffer barrel.
My 3 P35s are much more dependable for the first shot after they've sat awhile. My 177 sat for several weeks and was dead on the first shot. I am pretty sure the 22 is also dependable. I don't shoot the 25 as much but the first year I had it I killed over a dozen squirrels with it. No time to mess around re-zeroing when a squirrel decides to pay a visit.
I think shifting POI is partly a gun-to-gun kind of thing and partially a design-of-the-gun kind of thing. The thin barrel of the FX is just not the recommended way to get a barrel that stays stable. Some may be there is a reason benchrest guns come with thick barrels. I know that FX wins lots of competitions but I would be surprised if the shooters can depend on the zero they established the first day when they come back the second. I also wonder if clamping the barrel to the action along it's length like the P35 does and I think the Wildcat does may not help. It should make it act like a much shorter stiffer barrel.
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For sure would be very frustrating for hunting. You don’t want to worry about that for hunting. That would negate the smoothness. The biggest draw back for me on the impact as a hunting platform was the low velocity first shot. My maverick platforms don’t do that. I’ve just never had anything as far as poi that was overly concerning. Just a cpl clicks at most on the scope which to me could likely just be due to wind differences day to day. Hard for me to categorize small shifts as the gun.
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I agree that it's not just FX. It's way too common for these airguns though. I can say with confidence the only airguns I haven't had to mess with my scope setting once set were AAA Evols, Edgun R5Ms and Taipan Veterans. There might have been more guns that didn't but I didn't keep them long enough to really know as other parts of the guns I didn't enjoy or didn't fit me. But common denominator with the above guns all had barrels threaded into the reciever. That has become my preference on guns now knowing how dependable they are.
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Luckily not my experience. I have two and the mav is a badass platform. I’m curious as to what is not hitting the same spot when taken 2 miles away. 1/4-1/2” , a foot, 6” off ??
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My point of impact is always off right out of the case. Sounds same as your experience. Couple few clicks and I'm back on target, but next thing you know I'm clicking turrets again and when I look I'm back to zero
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Agreed. We have different uses in guns and that's what's great about our sport. Many different uses and guns to pick from. I feel I'm a special case as I'm very picky with the guns I own as I'm harder on them than most.
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I know I never had a problem with my impact mine was all but a m3 it was mk2 with a backbone and 720 plenumand cf sleeve plus a barrel clamp up front then I used peek to make spacers to put tension on the barrel by using the stock shroud on mine and my friends m3 otherwise his m3 is stock no problems at all
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Marauders are also known for POI issues as well, if they get cased up or leaned against a wall. Not all, but I've had it in 2 of the 3 I had. One of those was actually a fortitude, but basically the same gun.
As for out of a hard case, and put moderator on each time and still be dead nuts on, is my 22 revere. It also has zero shift with or without moderator. I love that gun.
I think the Impact is meant to be a tinkerer/tuner's gun. If you want an FX that doesn't have to be petted and stroked before firing, get a dreamline/crown/Wildcat. Never seem to have that POI issue like the Impact.
As for out of a hard case, and put moderator on each time and still be dead nuts on, is my 22 revere. It also has zero shift with or without moderator. I love that gun.
I think the Impact is meant to be a tinkerer/tuner's gun. If you want an FX that doesn't have to be petted and stroked before firing, get a dreamline/crown/Wildcat. Never seem to have that POI issue like the Impact.
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Yup, simply buy any BRK, unbox, zero and get to shooting. Very rare to hear BRK owners complaining about their guns. At the +2K price point these PCPs command? Zero issues via good QC, “right out the box”, nothing less is acceptable…
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