I am torn between the FX models. I want the best accuracy at every distance out to at least 300. I am a competitive PRS shooter already in both .22 and open (6 dasher) so I want my pcp to be as accurate if not more than both at 100 and close to dasher at 300. I’m between building a chassis rifle with the drs pro barreled action, the panthera 700, and the m4. I am looking for feedback from anyone that has significant experience with FX air rifles that can truly speak to the differences between these specific platforms from experience. Thanks guys. (I’d love to feel confident at 300 and hopeful at 500 with .22 slugs for more clarity which seems very possible (sub MOA) with good wind reads
FX FX PRS/Long range optimal platform
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Welcome to the forum. Dont take this the wrong way but let me be frank; your goals are not realistic. There isnt an air rifle in existence that will out perform a 6 Dasher at any distance. Sub moa is rare for any pcp at 100yds, let alone 300-500yds. Most people see 2-4moa with slugs at reasonable distances. Your groups with a 22Cal pcp at 500yds will be measured in feet/yards not inches.
But to answer your question about the models, I would go with the DRS simply for the stiff barrel.
But to answer your question about the models, I would go with the DRS simply for the stiff barrel.
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Absolutely honest and accurate post !!!
..There is far far to much Bullsh*t on the good ol internet in regards to PCP Air Rifle capabilities .....( Youtube !!)
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Compared to the STOUTLY built Vudoo and RimX 22rf's, and the centerfire equivalents, all set up for PRS/NRL, the main problem you'll see is the airguns are not made to be STOUT. Especially using the liner system which FX is married to.
I listened to a podcast about a high ranking powder burner guy in PRS trying a airgun at RMAC and he had a .7 mil or so(can't remember exactly) shift during the match which was one reason he didn't finish higher. Major POI shifts in any gun are super frustrating. This is rare with a good PB but not uncommon with decent airguns.
The best thing about airguns is one can tune in low SD's and about as important is there are slugs with higher BC's than 22rf bullets.
Currently I wouldn't expect a airgun to perform quite up to 22rf levels and of course no where near a 6 Dasher. I think it was 6BRA that broke a 600 yard BR record of 5 shots into sub half inch.
One day I kept most shots on a 2/3IPSC's head at 785Y in low wind using my 6mmBR and had 1.8" vertical at 1000Y for 9 of the 10 shots on a steel.
Right now personally I'd just buy a case of Lapua Midas plus tested in your rimfire instead of buying a airgun then check back in a few more years to see if things have changed.
I listened to a podcast about a high ranking powder burner guy in PRS trying a airgun at RMAC and he had a .7 mil or so(can't remember exactly) shift during the match which was one reason he didn't finish higher. Major POI shifts in any gun are super frustrating. This is rare with a good PB but not uncommon with decent airguns.
The best thing about airguns is one can tune in low SD's and about as important is there are slugs with higher BC's than 22rf bullets.
Currently I wouldn't expect a airgun to perform quite up to 22rf levels and of course no where near a 6 Dasher. I think it was 6BRA that broke a 600 yard BR record of 5 shots into sub half inch.
One day I kept most shots on a 2/3IPSC's head at 785Y in low wind using my 6mmBR and had 1.8" vertical at 1000Y for 9 of the 10 shots on a steel.
Right now personally I'd just buy a case of Lapua Midas plus tested in your rimfire instead of buying a airgun then check back in a few more years to see if things have changed.
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My passion being Long Range shooting and Precision ( Powder Burners)........ i came in the Airgun ( PCP) world with great excitement and anticipation after being drawn into the hype on the internet.
I have since learnt that the majority of "Reviews" and "Videos" avialble are pure fantasy!!
I have 2 M3,s ...one standard and one highly modified in the pursuit of "Consistency"....... While i do very much enjoy the PCP and it can be quite accurate in its own right, it is a far far cry form a precision powder burner rifle!!
I have sampled other makes of PCP along the way and now rate FX very low !! The whole "Barrel/Liner" setup on the FX series is just a joke .
FX PCP,s and the the concept of ....."Consistency " ...... just do not go together...
I have since learnt that the majority of "Reviews" and "Videos" avialble are pure fantasy!!
I have 2 M3,s ...one standard and one highly modified in the pursuit of "Consistency"....... While i do very much enjoy the PCP and it can be quite accurate in its own right, it is a far far cry form a precision powder burner rifle!!
I have sampled other makes of PCP along the way and now rate FX very low !! The whole "Barrel/Liner" setup on the FX series is just a joke .
FX PCP,s and the the concept of ....."Consistency " ...... just do not go together...
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Let me put it this way. If you want to shoot at such distances and accurately, the FX Dynamic express 700 is ideal as a base but only in .25 caliber in .22 you can't achieve it. But it's not the only thing you'll actually need, you also need to have a well-chosen liner and have everything around it made so there's no play. Achieving this is pretty good and easy. Then tweak it overall so that it works comprehensively all the same. And the last thing is that you will need good quality and heavy projectiles which must ideally have a weight difference of 0.001 grams i.e. This can only be achieved by making your own slugs in heavy weight. I personally work best with slugs that I have designed myself according to the ballistic shape for maximum length to fit in the magazine i.e. 12.95 mm and weight with full tip 55 grain and with hollow tip 54 grain with accuracy of 0.001 grams and I shoot them at 295 m/s.
Accuracy on target under 2 cm at 200 meters. That's for this year, next year I want to go to 350 meters.
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I forgot to add that at this power the air consumption is already very high so for prs competitions it's not quite ideal but from a 0.5l bottle you can get about 22 shots which should be enough. I personally have a total of 1.1l on the air rifle in two bottles.
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I'm not a competitive shooter.
I have a DRS Pro 25 700 and a Classic 22 700 and I can say the 22 caliber drifts more in the wind, drops more at the same range and takes way more air to achieve the same velocity with a 40gr. slug.
I use my rifles for prairie dog shooting so I limit my range to 200 yards.
Both rifles will shoot MOA in ideal conditions.
I have shot some sub MOA groups 150 and 200 yards in ideal conditions with the DRS Pro.
I have never owned a Pathera but I would think that it would be a better long range rifle because it is capable of shooting heavier slugs faster than the DRS.
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