FX Royale 500 bottle removal question

[cj_86]

Could someone please share how they remove the bottle from a FX Royale 500 with a 3 position power wheel? Does the gun need to be degassed with the bottle attached? Does bottle have an internal check valve? It appears the shroud looks very close to the moderator so I assume the moderator or barrel needs to be removed too?

Thanks,
CJ

 

[Enkey]

Hi Cj.
Yes, you need to be degassed,(degassed shooting slowly) and is more easy if you removed the barrel have three allen screw, you must look well in marks screws in the barrel for correct position transfer port.
Best regards

 

[TonyT]

You should check with AOA to be sure. However, as I remember, in order to remove the bottle from the FX-500 you had to partially remove the barrel. I do not believe the gun has to be degassed since the bottle contains a valve. I know for sure that the bottle on the FX-400 can be removed without degassing and I believe the carbon fiber bottle on the FX-500 can be removed without loosening the barrel. Check with AOA for a definitive response.

 

[AZSteve]

I took my Royale 500 to AOA when I got the CF bottle. The stock bottle is too long to take off without removing the barrel or shroud. Since removing the stock shroud is very likely to damage it, it is best to remove the barrel (unless you have a screw on type like a Huggett, then you can just unscrew it and not remove the barrel). The valve is in the bottle, so you do not have to degas the cylinder to remove it. I know this because AOA gave me back the stock bottle, I asked them if it was still pressurized, they said it was and depressurized it after I asked them to.

 

[Paulcat]

The 500cc bottles do not have a check valve from what I know.You will need to de-gas it.Safety wise I would degas anyway if I was uncertain.I would guess that models shipped to Australia are the same as US less the shroud/moderator.

 

[SDellinger]

I took the 500cc bottle off my FX 500 and installed the carbon fiber bottle. I just unscrewed the old bottle. It still has air in it so it sealed off when I unscrewed it. No problem.

 

[Paulcat]

OK. Specs on the 500 Royale say the bottle is not removable.My dealer said it was not removable.Can't argue with you though,SDellinger,if you have done it. I'll continue to take the cautious approach.

 

[lavahunter]

Remove the barrel, slowly unscrew the pressure gauge until it starts slowly leaking air. Wait till all the air is out. If you have a regulator there will still be air in the plenum. Dry fire a couple of times to make sure all the air is out then unscrew bottle. Valve will still be in the action.
Go to fxairguns.com for schematics.

 

[mats400]

Australian version you just unscrew the bottle like the 400 no pesky moderators to get in the road lol.

 

[Paulcat]

"mats400"Australian version you just unscrew the bottle like the 400 no pesky moderators to get in the road lol.

Have you done this on a Royale 500 Mat? I have no need to remove the bottle,but if I need to,not draining the bottle will be handy.
Thanks Paul.

 

[mats400]

"Paulcat"

"mats400"Australian version you just unscrew the bottle like the 400 no pesky moderators to get in the road lol.

Have you done this on a Royale 500 Mat? I have no need to remove the bottle,but if I need to,not draining the bottle will be handy.
Thanks Paul.
Not me personnaly but my good friend has a 500 and he does it with his.Just slowly start to unscrew it it will hiss for a little bit than stop than just unscrew it.Ive done my 400 the same way.

 

[cj_86]

I'm getting a lot of mixed answers so when I get around to removing the bottle I will just degass the entire rifle by loosening the gauge. As much as I want to spin the bottle off with air...it's better to be safe then sorry. Thanks again for the help! Much appreciated!

CJ

 

[weatherby]

My answer from Johan when I asked him the same question:

4, Yes you can remove the bottle with air in it, however the shroud is in the way on the royal 500.


Regards,

Gijs

 

[Paulcat]

"weatherby"My answer from Johan when I asked him the same question:

4, Yes you can remove the bottle with air in it, however the shroud is in the way on the royal 500.


Regards,

Gijs

Well that settles it, thanks Gijs My thought,correct me if I'm wrong,is on the FX website states if bottles and cylinders are removable.Some are,some are not.Do all bottles and cylinders have a check valve,and removal is dictated by a fixed or removable shroud.
Not an issue for us in Australia because shrouds are not allowed.

 

[jimreed1948]

I can easily remove my bottle by just unscrewing it. It doesn't matter if it's full, empty or anywhere in between. I repositioned my shroud a little and it will now come off with the shroud on and still in the stock.

 

[cj_86]

To update everyone,

I degassed the rifle by slowly unscrewing the pressure gauge and letting the air bleed out for about an hour. I spun the bottle off and there was a check valve. I figured it would be better safe then sorry. Thanks again for everyone's help.

CJ

 

[John "spysir" Blount]

Cj,
Thank you for the follow up.

John

 

[cj_86]

If you look closely, you can see the check valve in the center. Kind of a nasty picture because moisture got in this gun. 

I am in the process of cleaning all the parts so if anyone wants a picture of a particular area of the block, let me know!

CJ

 

[cj_86]

Also found something nifty when I was disassembling.

Notice the pressure gauge on the right and the lug to left used to hold the stock on...


When I took it off I believe FX may of drilled a hole through this lug and possibly use it as a bleed valve to degass the regulator air reservoir and perhaps the entire rifle.

 

[asif_maqsood]

Hi, my Royale 500 is leaking air from the neck of the bottle (10 bar per 24 hrs). I can see very minor bubbles from one point.

Can you please guide me step by step on how to remove the barrel and then the bottle and finally on the size of the O ring that will require to be replaced.

Best Regards