Fx wildcat mkII or Edgun r5m std.

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So I have been looking at getting a pcp rifle. ( .25 cal. ) Coon problem mostly. Is one more powerful then the other ? I was pretty set on the wild cat MK II but after researching it sounds like maybe not ( I don’t want problems), but I do like the looks of the wildcat better. So I just started looking at the Edgun R5M std. what inherent “ issues” does it have ? That I should be aware of, ease of adjustability and ease of maintenance being huge, known leaks, reg. should be changed out, fragile, feeding problem, any thing like that. Durability is another factor, the barrel on the wildcat looks “ flimsy “ to me, the r5m looks more stout. The whole gun does not appeal to me as far as looks, but if it’s better made, I can over look that. So any help as to which way to go would be great. And how do you get the real nice wood on the r5m, I do not see an option on his order sight ? ( help dress the ugly girl for the prom, the wood on some I have seen helps draw your attention. ) oh yea, any issues with the electronic gauges vs the manual ? 

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To me, its like the difference between a new Lexus (FX), and a Chevy Impala (EDgun R5M). Yes, both will get you to work, but...

The FX is smooth, easy to shoot, light weight, reliable, super accurate, efficient... I think the .25 FX Wildcat Compact is pretty much the perfect hunting airgun (I don't have one, but have FX guns like the Crown and Bobcat).

The EDgun R5M is a great looking gun, and has a reputation as being easy to work on. I had one, a .25 R5M. Its not as accurate as the FX, the trigger isn't as good as the FX, its much heavier than the FX, the cocking isn't nearly as refined, the mag indexing is an issue on some of them (every now and then the mag will over rotate a bit enough to require manual turning of the mag so the pellet probe can push in the pellet), plus its significantly more expensive than the FX. Its not a bad gun, and IMHO the R3 Long single shot was one of the best airguns ever made. But the R5M magazine system wasn't well thought out and the cocking effort although ambidextrous, is rough and glitchy.

The Eddy can be power tuned much easier than the FX if that's what you are looking for, but you'd want the Long, not the Standard. Its not "better made" than the FX, its more of a heavy duty gun than the FX. FYI, I'm not a fan boy for either. In fact, if I was buying a new airgun in .25, I'd buy the Airgun Technology Uragan. Pretty much same as the Vulcan2 with numerous improvements. If you have no intention of shooting the heavy .25 pellets, the Vulcan2 would be a great choice also.
 
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Really depends on what you want to do with it other than whack a few coons. Do you shoot off a bench or offhand more? Do you take reasonable care of your guns or do you want to run it over with your vehicle? Do you like to tinker/adjust airguns or pretty much just buy it and shoot it? FWIW I have owned 5 or 6 FX's and have never had a problem with one of them. That said, my Leshiy is going to be delivered tomorrow but I only bought it because of it's the only choice-there is no competitor in that arena. I have an FX Verminator MK II in .25 that is the Hammer of Thor, I had a Warcat in .25, and a Wildcat MK II in .30 with the AMP regulator with no problems in any. The biathlon cocking is sweet. If it were me, I'd get the FX or R5M, and not anticipate problems (at worst you might have to throw a HUMA reg in it-same for the R5). If you want to fiddle a good bit and get slugs to shoot, the R5 has the air for it, the FX probably not. The R5 may need the HUMA as well, it is more easily adjustable by the end user, a little clunkier to cock and looks like a brick (to me). I you really want to adjust a lot of things-get an Impact, but be prepared to chase leaks. I don't think you can specify the wood to get a killer stock like the one Piotr Ma got. You just have to hope you "win the wood lottery." 

If you buy new, be ready to lose 20-50% if you want to sell it. The good news is, there are some killer deals in the classifieds here, a .25 Streamline with adjustable power wheel, a .25 Bobcat, and there was an R5M a few weeks ago I would have bought that was already set up to shoot pellet and slugs.
 
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I agree That they are 2 very different pellet rifles entirely IMHO lol. I just traded for a rare R 5 super magnum in .25 cal ( only had it a week ) and have several of the fx . The edgun I have is a hunter that has absolutely no problems stock with heavier projectiles or slugs just add air and absolutely pound your target haha. The fx is a lot smoother and more refined. Ed did run over an edgun with his suv multiple times and scope and shoot groups lol I have seen no one run over an fx gun yet 😲. I know I will definitely not be running over any of mine any time soon haha. The edgun is extremely durable and well built no worries dropping of bumping it on a tree or moving threw heavy brush at all. Mine is a single shot so no mag problems just simple and effective.

So I guess I am trying to say be purpose driven in your decision maybe. If hunting is on the side of buttery smooth and you have a desire to experiment with things go fx if ruff and tumble ground and pound destroy your target humanly the edgun. Neither will let you down they are both nice rigs. I hope this helps a little if not have a nice day 😋
 
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I listed mine in classifieds if you want to peek lol. (shameless plug as they suggested to look there haha ) later
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That is nice, but I will be somewhat ruff on whatever I buy as I will be shooting coons at night. And some times in very close quarterers. Some times it gets pretty “ exciting” I guess is how to put it. I have had to lay the 177 springer down and beat them with a bat. So I would not want to treat “ your” gun that way either, thanks for the suggestion though. 
 
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Ok I don’t want a gun that I have to fiddle with. I want to take it out of the box and have it ready to go, for the most part. If I have to adjust something to get the “ power” correct that’s fine. ( I would like to shoot heavier pellets possible slugs if I have a problem with the pellets cleanly dispatching coons. And I do want some thing I can maintain myself, I am very mech. inclined, but I don’t want to be taking it apart all the time to fix leaks and change settings. If I have to replace the regulator and o rings, easier would be better, as I like stuff to be perfect but not complicated. KISS is how I would like it. I don’t mind spending more on one gun over the other, if it’s worth it. No don’t need it to be able to be driven over, but dropped or bumped hard, good possibility ! 
 
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With reasonable care, I can personally recommend the Wildcat MKII in .30 caliber. I recently sold mine to fund another gun, but it put pellet on pellet right out of the box. I didn't do a thing to it, just took it out of the case and shot it. Mine had the AMP regulator and Donny FL Ronin. It was quiet and powerful. I did add a printed barrel band (goes around the air cylinder and barrel) because when gripping the gun, I sometimes tend to squeeze the two together. Coons are one tough critter and I'd rather have a little more power than not, so I'd get a .30, but make sure of your backstop. Pellets will do the job with proper placement. If I got a R5M Matador, I'd still get a .30 for coons. Not as refined as the FX, and I'm not sure it would be as quiet (not sure). Don't know if you need a short gun or not, or how important quiet is in your case. The Edgun would probably be a little shorter (depending on what model your get-Standard. Long or Extra Long). The Edgun is more suited to slugs but it's not as simple as buying slugs and shooting them. It usually takes a fair bit of tinkering, tuning as experimenting.
 
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To me, its like the difference between a new Lexus (FX), and a Chevy Impala (EDgun R5M). Yes, both will get you to work, but...

The FX is smooth, easy to shoot, light weight, reliable, super accurate, efficient... I think the .25 FX Wildcat Compact is pretty much the perfect hunting airgun (I don't have one, but have FX guns like the Crown and Bobcat).

The EDgun R5M is a great looking gun, and has a reputation as being easy to work on. I had one, a .25 R5M. Its not as accurate as the FX, the trigger isn't as good as the FX, its much heavier than the FX, the cocking isn't nearly as refined, the mag indexing is an issue on some of them (every now and then the mag will over rotate a bit enough to require manual turning of the mag so the pellet probe can push in the pellet), plus its significantly more expensive than the FX. Its not a bad gun, and IMHO the R3 Long single shot was one of the best airguns ever made. But the R5M magazine system wasn't well thought out and the cocking effort although ambidextrous, is rough and glitchy.

The Eddy can be power tuned much easier than the FX if that's what you are looking for, but you'd want the Long, not the Standard. Its not "better made" than the FX, its more of a heavy duty gun than the FX. FYI, I'm not a fan boy for either. In fact, if I was buying a new airgun in .25, I'd buy the Airgun Technology Uragan. Pretty much same as the Vulcan2 with numerous improvements. If you have no intention of shooting the heavy .25 pellets, the Vulcan2 would be a great choice also.
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Going to look at the uragans now, thanks
 
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The Edgun R5M long would be quieter than a Wildcat out of the box. Stuffing the Edgun's shroud with foam and felt made mine super quiet. I don't own a Wildcat but was considered buying one, it is lighter and has a better cycling and trigger and less expensive.

Assuming less than 40 yards, ff you don't want the coon walking off at least 10 to 20 yards, brain shot are a must for anything less than a high powered 30 cal. If you go for the brain a 22 will work fine if you hit the right spot at the right angle. My 25 Marauder has taken more coons than my Edgun because I've had it longer. However it was too noisy and woke up my wife. If you want to go for body or long range shots then a Wildcat my be better as you can get slug liners. I don't know how well Edgun's shoot slugs, they have the power to do so but accuracy may be less than desired.

Having enough power and accuracy to do the job is 1st priority after that it is quietness for me.
 
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I just saw at my R5M long that the cocking bearings are actually "plastic sliders"

The mags also

The silencer (you can buy extra longer aluminium BAT)

At newest model the trigger blade also plastic

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Interesting information. I have an older one and have a metal trigger and bearings not plastic sliders. As far as the aluminum baffle assembly IMO you don't need it if you stuff your shroud with filling. At the price they're charging for the edgun I think it's foolhardy to save a few bucks on production costs eliminating the bearings and using plastic trigger
 
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I just saw at my R5M long that the cocking bearings are actually "plastic sliders"

The mags also

The silencer (you can buy extra longer aluminium BAT)

At newest model the trigger blade also plastic

OOPS !
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Were did you see this information, I haven’t seen it mentioned in any of the reviews i have read, and I think I have watched ( read) them all. Of course some I couldn’t understand as they were a foreign language.
 
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Unfortunately, this is a common product cycle. The first iteration is bug laden and sometimes even has safety issues. The second iteration is better in ways, but as soon as the manufacturer sees they have hit on their hands, the greed sets in. If true regarding the plastic on the Edguns, it is disappointing. The Gen II Leshiy went to a plastic buttstock and the EDMU, so it would not surprise me.

From what I've read and heard the Uragan will require a good bit of tinkering. Full disclosure-in a hunting gun I like the dimensional stability of a quality synthetic stock. I am not a wood worshipper. It's function over form for me. I also do not like a bottle gun, especially a front bottle gun for hunting, it too front end heavy off a bench or bipod maybe, but that's not how I hunt. I will if I must to get high power/shot count take a rear bottle gun, hence my Verminator Extreme MKII. Others will have different needs/likes. That is just mine.
 
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If you're going to compare the Edgun R5M Standard with the Wildcat MKII, you're going to have to compare it to the Wildcat MKII Compact in .25cal. 

~ The standard Wildcat MKII is 35.4" in length without a moderator.

~ The Wildcat MKII Compact is 26.5" in overall length without the supplied moderator, 30" with the moderator.

~ The R5M is 27.5" in length with the standard moderator.

~ If you get the new Edgun BAT Suppressor, it adds 2.5" to the overall length so it comes out to a total of 30" with the additional suppressor.

~ The weight of the R5M Standard is 6.75 lbs. dry.

~ The weight of the Wildcat MKII Compact is 6.25 lbs. dry.

They are very close.
 
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I typed std. but I would most likely get the long. Actually I for sure would get the long. And the wild cat would be the std. or non compact. Length and weight are really not much concern, reliability, ease of “ maintenance ” ( repairs, adjustability) durability, and fpe are most important. Customer service is right up there also, have not dealt with either ( any pcp ) company before., and I am sure I will need them. 
 
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