Gambo swarm magnum

[KitCarson16]

I am thinking of getting my first air rifle with out breaking the bank to much. I am looking at the gamo swarm magnum g2 22. Is that a good rifle or should i get some thing else.

With a hawke airmax 3- 9-40.

I have a Gamo Swarm .22 Magnum with a Vortex 6 by 24 FFP scope and I have installed a longer screw into the rear trigger adjustment and it now breaks at 12 ounces. I have had it for 7 months now and have shot it .......I dunno over 10,0000 rounds. When I first got it I was really disgusted with it. A two inch group at 20 yards and a 5 inch group at 50 yards. The accuracy criteria on the Gamo website is one inch at 10 yards. If that tells you anything.

With years of experience shooting springers I was determined to win. I tinkered and experimented many ways and have even installed a machined aluminum silencer insert in place of that plastic junk. This improved accuracy some. 

I now consistently can shoot one inch groups with it at 40 yards. I can get one half to 5/8 groups with it with the Predator 11.75 pellet , however it sends them at an average of 1050 fps and they start tumbling past 40 yards and hitting sideways. However they produce over 30 fpe at the muzzle. So if not shooting past 40 yards it is the pick of the litter. 

The best overall pellet I have found is either the 18.13 JSB or its soulmate the 18 grain FX pellet. They average 938 fps and around 26 fpe. Accuracy is acceptable with one inch groups at 40 yards.

It took lots of work, and a lot of practice learning this rifle. Cocking is very hard, however I developed a two hand technique and can shoot it for several hours without concern.

I would not recommend this rifle to anyone unless you have LOTS of trigger time. This rifle will convince a beginner to never shoot an air rifle again and leave you frustrated and disgusted.

It took me a long time to learn to shoot it and a lot of persistence, tinkering and I even had to re-drill the receiver stop pin hole larger and install a larger stop pin in the sports match ring as the standard pin was eating its way steadily into the receiver due to its extreme recoil.

The good, it once mastered is a rifle with adequate accuracy, it is light and easy to carry, looks nice and it has a five year warranty and mine has had lots of rounds so far without a quibble or any mechanical problems. It likes to be held just a bit rear of its balance point, be it on a bench rest, shooting sticks or on your forearm against a tree, hold it just rear of its balance point and it will not change POI.

However I still do not recommend it, I can take one of my HW95 rifles off the rack and shoot it with my eyes shut and have a better experience. Grin!! 

Kit

 

[skitchin1]

Will the hw50 be powerful to kill squirrels. And how far of a range. 

For scope should i go with the airmax 3-9-40

 

[DMR_214]

Hey skitchin.

I think the gamo magnum is a great rifle. I like it over the other gamos at Walmart because it has the all metal barrel, that doesn't wiggle like some of the others. I bought the gamo swarm whisper that's how I know. I returned it , and got the magnum from cabelas after realizing the lack of power at further distance. ( I had a large field to play with). After getting used to the magnum I was glad I made the decision. The iron sights are really low though and have a weird cheek hold if using no scope. Someone recommended this setup, a Hawke airmax with the sportsmatch Ao55 adjustable scope mount and it also worked great for me. I zero the scope without touching the turrets, keeps it center and helps avoid breaking the scope.

Although my gamo magnum was in .177 it was very accurate up to 80 yards shooting off a cheap phone tripod.



I'll leave some videos of my magnum shooting various targets from about 40 yards to 100 yards, and a hunt I used it on a while back in last years winter.

Thanks for looking.

https://youtu.be/EmQJq61WVAA



https://youtu.be/4s94MofAf0k

 

[DMR_214]

I am thinking of getting my first air rifle with out breaking the bank to much. I am looking at the gamo swarm magnum g2 22. Is that a good rifle or should i get some thing else.

With a hawke airmax 3- 9-40.

I have a Gamo Swarm .22 Magnum with a Vortex 6 by 24 FFP scope and I have installed a longer screw into the rear trigger adjustment and it now breaks at 12 ounces. I have had it for 7 months now and have shot it .......I dunno over 10,0000 rounds. When I first got it I was really disgusted with it. A two inch group at 20 yards and a 5 inch group at 50 yards. The accuracy criteria on the Gamo website is one inch at 10 yards. If that tells you anything.

With years of experience shooting springers I was determined to win. I tinkered and experimented many ways and have even installed a machined aluminum silencer insert in place of that plastic junk. This improved accuracy some. 

I now consistently can shoot one inch groups with it at 40 yards. I can get one half to 5/8 groups with it with the Predator 11.75 pellet , however it sends them at an average of 1050 fps and they start tumbling past 40 yards and hitting sideways. However they produce over 30 fpe at the muzzle. So if not shooting past 40 yards it is the pick of the litter. 

The best overall pellet I have found is either the 18.13 JSB or its soulmate the 18 grain FX pellet. They average 938 fps and around 26 fpe. Accuracy is acceptable with one inch groups at 40 yards.

It took lots of work, and a lot of practice learning this rifle. Cocking is very hard, however I developed a two hand technique and can shoot it for several hours without concern.

I would not recommend this rifle to anyone unless you have LOTS of trigger time. This rifle will convince a beginner to never shoot an air rifle again and leave you frustrated and disgusted.

It took me a long time to learn to shoot it and a lot of persistence, tinkering and I even had to re-drill the receiver stop pin hole larger and install a larger stop pin in the sports match ring as the standard pin was eating its way steadily into the receiver due to its extreme recoil.

The good, it once mastered is a rifle with adequate accuracy, it is light and easy to carry, looks nice and it has a five year warranty and mine has had lots of rounds so far without a quibble or any mechanical problems. It likes to be held just a bit rear of its balance point, be it on a bench rest, shooting sticks or on your forearm against a tree, hold it just rear of its balance point and it will not change POI.

However I still do not recommend it, I can take one of my HW95 rifles off the rack and shoot it with my eyes shut and have a better experience. Grin!! 

Kit

Hey kit I also installed the longer trigger screw, I got it from airgundetectives. Well the recoil is so harsh a piece of that screw literally broke off, so now I can't adjust it. I just want to say to anyone reading this with the gamo magnum, be careful in installing this screw. Just Because it happened to me doesn't mean it could happen to yours. Again just a thought to be aware of. And back to OP topic.

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

Will the hw50 be powerful to kill squirrels. And how far of a range. 

For scope should i go with the airmax 3-9-40

Yes the HW50 is a squirrel killing machine. Any more power is wasted anyway. Squirrel hunting is not very long yardage. Top of a tree. I would probably recommend.177 caliber for the speed and flat trajectory. If hunting in windy conditions then use a heavy weight pellet. A good hit and penetration is what you want for squirrels.

 

[KitCarson16]

I am thinking of getting my first air rifle with out breaking the bank to much. I am looking at the gamo swarm magnum g2 22. Is that a good rifle or should i get some thing else.

With a hawke airmax 3- 9-40.

I have a Gamo Swarm .22 Magnum with a Vortex 6 by 24 FFP scope and I have installed a longer screw into the rear trigger adjustment and it now breaks at 12 ounces. I have had it for 7 months now and have shot it .......I dunno over 10,0000 rounds. When I first got it I was really disgusted with it. A two inch group at 20 yards and a 5 inch group at 50 yards. The accuracy criteria on the Gamo website is one inch at 10 yards. If that tells you anything.

With years of experience shooting springers I was determined to win. I tinkered and experimented many ways and have even installed a machined aluminum silencer insert in place of that plastic junk. This improved accuracy some. 

I now consistently can shoot one inch groups with it at 40 yards. I can get one half to 5/8 groups with it with the Predator 11.75 pellet , however it sends them at an average of 1050 fps and they start tumbling past 40 yards and hitting sideways. However they produce over 30 fpe at the muzzle. So if not shooting past 40 yards it is the pick of the litter. 

The best overall pellet I have found is either the 18.13 JSB or its soulmate the 18 grain FX pellet. They average 938 fps and around 26 fpe. Accuracy is acceptable with one inch groups at 40 yards.

It took lots of work, and a lot of practice learning this rifle. Cocking is very hard, however I developed a two hand technique and can shoot it for several hours without concern.

I would not recommend this rifle to anyone unless you have LOTS of trigger time. This rifle will convince a beginner to never shoot an air rifle again and leave you frustrated and disgusted.

It took me a long time to learn to shoot it and a lot of persistence, tinkering and I even had to re-drill the receiver stop pin hole larger and install a larger stop pin in the sports match ring as the standard pin was eating its way steadily into the receiver due to its extreme recoil.

The good, it once mastered is a rifle with adequate accuracy, it is light and easy to carry, looks nice and it has a five year warranty and mine has had lots of rounds so far without a quibble or any mechanical problems. It likes to be held just a bit rear of its balance point, be it on a bench rest, shooting sticks or on your forearm against a tree, hold it just rear of its balance point and it will not change POI.

However I still do not recommend it, I can take one of my HW95 rifles off the rack and shoot it with my eyes shut and have a better experience. Grin!! 

Kit

Hey kit I also installed the longer trigger screw, I got it from airgundetectives. Well the recoil is so harsh a piece of that screw literally broke off, so now I can't adjust it. I just want to say to anyone reading this with the gamo magnum, be careful in installing this screw. Just Because it happened to me doesn't mean it could happen to yours. Again just a thought to be aware of. And back to OP topic.

Well with over 30 years experience shooting springers, I purchased a bag of stainless steel screws for like 12 bucks for 100. So far so good. Yep stuff breaks on Magnum Springers and sometimes goes flying such as in the field in the leaves never to be seen again. Grin! As those screws from the Detective are a soft metal, I would take the proper size small drill bit and a dremel tool and gently and carefully drill the screw and them remodel an allen key and sharpen it to 4 edges with a small file, take off part of the filed tip so it fits tight, tap it into the screw hole well, in effect you just made an easy out. If that does not work there are several custom replacement triggers available and not sure if I can name them and follow the rules. As for original replacement parts, do not know of any available and sending a rifle to Rogers Arkansas and paying them them to replace it and with shipping on average 60 bucks each way, the custom trigger is much cheaper. Now......hum.......if it is in far enough take the rifle apart, remove the entire trigger assembly and just maybe with a small vice grip get hold of it where it comes through, possibly. Unfortunately with Gamo there are no replacement parts available other than simple breech seals and a few misc o rings. Gamo does not provide replacement parts.

Sorry the screw broke, that is a revolting development. Lol!

Cheers

Kit

 

[DMR_214]

Sounds simple enough. Thanks for that tip. 

 

[Raden1942]

Get a gun under 17 fpe and you will be happier. Hw is a great company but any mid power should be better than hatsan 135. 15fpe is the sweet spot for me..... All that being said I have the hatsan 130 .30 cal and love it for dispatching coons at 10 yards. They are awesome in the job they do..... My recommendation is still to go with any lower power gun you can afford.