Hello gang and happy new year to everyone.
I've been looking at the Gamo swarm bone collector 10 x gen 3 I and they come with a good rating from people who've supposed to have bought them but I want to ask if anyone here has any experience with the higher end Gamos.
Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks gang.
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My advice would be to just skip Gamo all together and get yourself something that is actually higher end. Even the best Gamos are cheaply made and run a higher than normal risk of having QC issues.

What do you actually plan to use the gun for?
Lol... My gamo shoots as good as my hw.. and its yet to break unlike the hw has . I dont need to take a tool kit to the bench with the gamo.. only time the stock gets pulled off the gamo is to clean dirt that periodically gets under it.

One thing with gamo is avoid the auto loader and go with one of the 5 year warranty single shot break barrel guns .
 
Lol... My gamo shoots as good as my hw.. and its yet to break unlike the hw has . I dont need to take a tool kit to the bench with the gamo.. only time the stock gets pulled off the gamo is to clean dirt that periodically gets under it.

One thing with gamo is avoid the auto loader and go with one of the 5 year warranty single shot break barrel guns .
I have two Gamos that broke unlike any of my HWs lol. Maybe it's the guy working on those HWs thats the problem?

Gamos are cheaply made trash there is no question about it and anyone who's been inside one knows this. I've never seen so much plastic on a gun in my life. The Gen 3is are no better and concidering they run $300, he is better off spending a hair more and grabbing something that's meant to last (just don't let Mo-Ron work on it apparently)
 
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There are plenty of Gamo that work fine. I had a varmint that’s close to 20 years old. I didn’t shoot it much because it was my first springer, and I hated everything about it. I gave it to son #2 a few years ago. He kills squirrels with it. It still works. Doesn’t mean it’s “ Good.”

Since getting a HW, I won’t consider going back. With that said, my HW95 was not perfect and took a while to make it right. But the two shouldn’t be spoken of in the same sentence.
Save you money and buy a better gun.

Que PDXFrank and his contempt for any non Gamo.
 
Its a you get a good one or a lemon in anything.. my layest whisper fusion mach1 is 4 years old and the highest shot count shot near daily alot. Ots been near 0 maintenance. Not to say the hw gets shot any less but. Broken spring, bad seal, loose screws, loose screws, loose screws , lol...

Thing is them auto loaders to me is a gimmick and just another thing to go bad, maintain, can cause pellet damage and can give poor group results.

Last thing i want or need is added headache...

Also that bonehead collector is a no sights model.. your stranded to a scope and we know how scopes and springers can go.. you have scope issues too bad.. a gun with sights yoir still shooting and enjoying it.. (opinion).
 
Its a you get a good one or a lemon in anything.. my layest whisper fusion mach1 is 4 years old and the highest shot count shot near daily alot. Ots been near 0 maintenance. Not to say the hw gets shot any less but. Broken spring, bad seal, loose screws, loose screws, loose screws , lol...

Thing is them auto loaders to me is a gimmick and just another thing to go bad, maintain, can cause pellet damage and can give poor group results.

Last thing i want or need is added headache...

Also that bonehead collector is a no sights model.. your stranded to a scope and we know how scopes and springers can go.. you have scope issues too bad.. a gun with sights yoir still shooting and enjoying it.. (opinion).
I'll agree with most of this except for the loose screws thing. Thats not an HW issue, thats a wood stock issue and its not even a hard one to address. Just torque them down when you use them and maybe a couple times while you use them. They will stop loosening when the wood settles in/compresses enough. I dont have a drop of loctite on any of my guns and none have loose screw issues any more.

Broken springs and bad piston seals are typically a result over being over lubed which is 100% on Weihrauch. Out of the 10 I own, all showed up with too much lube on the internals and half showed up with enough to actually be a problem. This is one of those "less is more" situations that Weihrauch really does need to fix at the assembly point.

Fortunately for me, I enjoy working on these guns. Its relaxing. Get a new gun, shoot it for a couple hours, and then tear it down. Its a Weihrauch so I know it'll need a proper guide made. Thats really it usually because the rest of the gun is pretty well manufactured. I really don't understand why they don't fit them properly at the factory.

Anyway, after this is done the first time, you're done taking the guns apart unless you're bored and really want too.
 
On gamo heres what i think or my thinking..

The lower 1 year warranty guns .. cheaper and may not last

3 year warranty maybe get somthing more out of it.

The 5 year warranty guns the better built that gamo backs up. They pay full bill shipping and all first year and you pay just shipping to them after that..

A guy here seems just last weel had a gen3 bonehead collector that the auto loader failed and i told him contact gamo and it will get right.. well gamo took care of it for him quick so he said doing that.. where's winerock doing that for you?

 
On gamo heres what i think or my thinking..

The lower 1 year warranty guns .. cheaper and may not last

3 year warranty maybe get somthing more out of it.

The 5 year warranty guns the better built that gamo backs up. They pay full bill shipping and all first year and you pay just shipping to them after that..

A guy here seems just last weel had a gen3 bonehead collector that the auto loader failed and i told him contact gamo and it will get right.. well gamo took care of it for him quick so he said doing that.. where's winerock doing that for you?

Weihrach has a LIFETIME warranty so long as you don't take it apart and break something. AoA has been known to just ship warranty parts out as needed.

The great thing about Weihrauch though is parts availability which Gamo does not really allow for. I don't care about dealing with a warranty because the things that break are dirt cheap. A spring is $15, a Vortek piston seal is $15, breech seals are like $5.... Never had an HW breech seal go bad nor have I had a spring go bad. All of mine are pushing 10k at this point with my 97s probably closer to 20k. Some of those are factory springs and some aren't. None of them are factory piston seals though. They've all been replaced with Vortek seals during my initial teardown.
 
Weihrach has a LIFETIME warranty so long as you don't take it apart and break something. AoA has been known to just ship warranty parts out as needed.

Guns sold buy aoa had a aoa lifetime warranty.. not weihrach.. ( of you dont buy it grom us it has no warranty..lol)

Then "AoA has been known to just ship warranty parts out as needed"

So you work on it and the warranty is void ? Heck of you look at aoa disclaimer just replacing a simple breech seal voids "there" warranty.. right there on the page..

Anything else? Like now who covering the hw "1 year" warranty? Germany?


But true self fixing a hw is better then gamo..
 
When I first got into the hobby I purchased a Gamo, fixed barrel under lever in .22. It now serves as my workshop door holder. It came with a scope that it killed in less than a week. The gun itself was semi-ok for a few weeks, then garbage.

I became very hesitant to buy another Springer ever. But 5 Weihrauch & 2 Walthers later, I’m glad I did.

So, from my personal experience, I would pass on the Gamo & buy a Weihrauch instead.
 
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Only Gamo I'm considering would be the urban or the coyote. Basically a BSA and the urban has good reviews all over for it. Little under powered for my liking in a PCP, but they can be tinkered on to get it how you like it.

As for a break barrel, stay sway from Gamo and other cheaper lines like crosmans and some of the cheaper Benjamin's. Save up the coin and buy a Diana, HW, or similar higher end guns.
 
Aito loaders may be fun and all but to me it just afds another thing that will malfunction or go bad in some way . I seen giy just take it off when issues occur and shoot it single shot . So in the end may as well got a single shot.

Gamo makes great break barrels . But you have to get one of there better models not the walmar cheapo's .

My whisper fusion all ad good as my hw/ beeman. Also the he i had to go in and fix and tune pretty quick but the gamo went like 4 years higher shot count near issue free . My opinion on Gamo

1 year warranty . Naa.

3 year .hmmm maybe

5 year probably get a solid gun that shoot great and lasts.

Big bad thing with gamo is they dont want you to self fix anything and dont sell parts like a simple piston seal.. ots you need a ffl ,or send it in so there "gunsmith" can look at it. Good thing on that is there esay to deal with on sending one back and honering the warranty.. if i was to do another gamo today id just get a referb mach1 or the hunter extrem pro wood stock on one of there good sales days. ( On sal mow i think for $229). That thing look to lay the smack down on what ever you shoot it at.😉