H+N Sniper light cal .22 Has anyone tried these?

[Maker's Marksman]

That is ridiculous. On the box they look ok but cannot imagine what they had in their mind when they slit the skirts. Guess nothing special.

In 0.177 they're great, look like this (after leaving the muzzle they look quite different):

Who would expect those slits @ 0.22"

 

[sonnysan]

These pellets, along with the snipers, were discontinued years ago. I don't think they've come back either.
I have used the 18gr. .22 snipers in a RA800 to smash a 1/2 dozen squirrels. Don't know how I remember that, maybe since that's the only time I used sniper magnums in my guns.

 

[DesertSilver]

My snipers didn't look like that. I wonder if H&N has been reading ballistic boys posts about slowing down the pellet spin to match the velocity drop as the pellet travels down range?

 

[WorriedMan]

These pellets, along with the snipers, were discontinued years ago. I don't think they've come back either.
I have used the 18gr. .22 snipers in a RA800 to smash a 1/2 squirrels. Don't know how I remember that, maybe since that's the only time I used sniper magnums in my guns.

My Benjamin Trail NP XL .22 loves the 17.9 grain H&N Sniper Magnums, too bad discontinued. Story goes some dies damaged by faulty procedures; H&N decided to drop the entire Sniper line. WM

 

[Maker's Marksman]

I think they didn't produce them they bought them from Luman, that's the reason. Luman still have similar like the sniper medium
Anyway, those slits anyone must have been mad. I had contact to H+N and asked them why they consider those slits necessary for the .22 but not for the .177 the answer was "trial and error". So it was rather error in this case.
I still have the light at 0.177 which do well.

 

[JungleShooter]

Deadly on pigeons out of my PP700.

Shot my first 100y group with the Sniper Heavy .22.

Discontinued years ago.

H&N bought the designs from the inventor, Hugh Earl, then owner of Pax Guns, London. He designed pellets with high BC. ️

Matthias

 

[Maker's Marksman]

Good to know. Thought they come from Luman for they still have very similar ones. But has anyone tried these?

View attachment 1,5 grad.doc

@ .177 the sniper light are still available. My best pellets for the small caliber. I found the expression "barrel shaped in a review" for them and now find this expression very good for it fits by two aspects. 1. Not conical but barrel shaped, but 2. more important: When they're shot in a powerful springer then its former shape doesn't matter at all, it will be reshaped, shrunk, nearly cast into the barrel thus being most uniform when leaving the muzzle. And this indeed was the first meaning I got when reading the expression. And that's why those BC simulations by H+N are pointless for powerful springers.
They calculate the preform (another expression for an intermediate product) and not the shape in its trajectory.

And had the heavier specimen in 0.22" those silly slits, too?

Stephan

 

[JungleShooter]

And had the heavier specimen in 0.22" those slits, too?

Stephan

Yes, both Light and Heavy versions of the .22cal Snipers came with the slits.

Matthias

 

[Maker's Marksman]

And they did work? I had the light in 0.22 and they didn't do at all. About 2/3 of normal power and felt like dry firing. Absolutely no go.

What is the point of those slits? They aren't displayed on the pics neither. Guess nobody would have bought them.

 

[JungleShooter]

And they did work? I had the light in 0.22 and they didn't do at all.

Like I said about the Sniper Medium (.22) in post No. #6:
Deadly on pigeons out of my PP700.

Ranges usually 45-55y (40-50m).



Like I said about the Sniper Heavy (.22): I shot my first group at 100y with them. I almost qualified for the GTA long range club. With a springer!

Matthias

 

[Maker's Marksman]

No pressure loss through the slits? Can't imaginge though. Strange so for my light just had 2/3 of normal energy which I find logical.
Just ordered 5 boxes of .177" sniper lights.

Stephan

 

[Motorhead]

That picture is of altered skirt pellets ... factory from tin DID NOT HAVE that severe flair on skirts. SPLITS were not there but there design of some weights & caliber did have striation patterns. ( .177 Magnums for instance )

Makes little differenece now day being as others have noted .... DISCONTINUED LINE OF PELLETS and "SNIPERS" are no more

 

[Maker's Marksman]

Still available. though. The 0.22" have those slits, only the 0.177" don't. Of which I just have ordered 5 boxes.

Anyway, if those slits were for any good they were most likely to reappear some day. Not too much of a pity them being discontinued unlike the 0.177 specimen.

 

[Maker's Marksman]

I don't mind if they are declared to be DISCONTINUED. Just got 5 cans of them, new, the best .177" pellets I know.
And the misshapen slit ones in .22" are available, too.
So. your discontinued thing is sort of relative