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Hamster For Hunter Division

In the earliest days of Field Target shooting, nobody used "hamsters" .... but when the practice began around the mid 90's, the consisted of a LOOSE part, normally a wooden block or sandbag that sat between gun and body part (generally the knee).

I think the early term hamster should NOT be used to signify an adjustable support ATTACHED to the stock, be it readily removable or not. The Hunter class in the US started in earnest in the late nineties, with the principle of a basic rifle without adjustable stock features, but with the main allowance of a bipod and higher seat height if desired. Hamsters were not discussed, but knee and elbow pads were allowed. I often use a sort of "Hamster" (loose pad between elbow and knee with a thickness of 2") to help bend far enough to rest my elbow on my knee, since I'm not very flexible and elbow pads and knee pads are allowed. 

I personally have always objected to use of target stocks and deepened forends in Hunter class because I feel they belong in either Open, WFTF, or the Freestyle class. I even build special USFT based guns for Hunter that have fixed power scopes, no cheekpiece, a thinnest practical forend, and no adjustable buttstock depth, length, or height in order to comply with my feeling of a "true" hunting sporter. I realize my ideas deviate from those of most AAFTA Hunter competitors, and I'm ok with this, and realize that such a gun is likely NOT as competitive due to the starkness.








 
It's all good John. Nothing is going to spoil my enthusiasm. The stock on my 34 is pretty radically changed. I've never been able to shoot with sporter stocks. For me, the length of pull and rake angle of the grip have prevented me from shooting most rifles. They hurt. One of the principal reasons why I've always shot pistols. I'm 5 foot 7 inches and my arms are probably a little short for my height. How you guys shoot sporter rifles is well beyond me. I can't do it. I need a adjustable butt plate, an adjustable cheek piece, and a vertical grip to be comfortable. By Therealld's comments above these fitments may be looked on with disdain. I hope not.
 
The adjustable stocks in Hunter are allowed, just when you can adjust them is limited. The allowance of adjustable stocks in hunter is probably for the exact reasons LD outlined. Some competitors would "build" an expensive custom stock to fit their ergonomics thus having an advantage. Everyone wants to be comfortable and shoot well and play within the rules, that is why there are multiple classes. Want a short LOP with high cheek and adjust your hamster, shoot Open or WFTF. At 5-7" I tend to gravitate to adjustable stocks or youth stocks.
 
Thanks John. I do understand the point that is being made here. Hunter Division I expect intends to reflect a true hunting environment more than the other classes. Shoot what you brought with you, little to no mods required. Shooting sticks I get but a bucket? A concession to us old farts perhaps. But the point is well taken. I will examine Open and WFTF classes much closer. My beastly rifle may well be more appropriate there.
 
Flintstone,

No distain, I too am only 5'7", and I own and use guns with lots of mods that give me a more comfortable and steady hold that tends to allow a little better field accuracy for Freestyle and other classes, but I just don't like seeing them used in the Hunter class. There is nothing stopping folks from modding stocks or resetting butthooks, cheekpiece placement, forend depth, or other adjustments, even in mid-match for Field Target ... but just not in the Hunter class is all.

If Hunter Class was rolled into the open class, by simply allowing the stool and bipod for everyone, I'd goforit right away, but its not that way yet.
 
Flintstone......don't be scared! Run what you brung....don't take anything off or put anything on during the match..........most of all have fun!

Here are some links with some pictures.....if they are using sticks.....their shooting Hunter

2019 Nationals

https://kennedysampey.smugmug.com/AAFTA-Nationals/n-fQgzWb

Password: 100419

2019 Pyramyd Air Cup

https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/pa-cup-2019-ft-massive-picture-pack/

2018 Nationals

http://www.thagc.com/rifle-day-1-photos-2018-nationals/

http://www.thagc.com/rifle-day-2-photos-2018-nationals/


 
So are hamsters and knee risers ok for aafta, American hunter field target rules as long as they don't extend below 6" below the barrel and are not adjusted during the match?

What are "knee rests and thigh rests" as referred to in the rules? Do I take it that these are not attached to the gun but the knee and thigh?

I have a knee riser. I wouldn't use it in place of sticks but would certainly use it on standing shots.....

Ed
 
I use a riser for my kneeling and offhand shots when shooting Hunter class. 
I agree that it should not be removed or adjusted during the match per the rules, so I made mine fixed. Maybe not the prettiest thing, but function over fashion.



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