Hand pumps for PCP pistol
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Quality wise, Hill pump for sure but they are relatively expensive. The New Warrior, the Chinese company that made the now very popular gold filter and the 12V Normad compressor , has made a hand pumps that look very much like the Hill pumps but I have not used them so I cant comment on their quality. The cost is USD 58.
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I use a Hill pump for back up on my wildcat compact no sweat. For a pistol with a small tank might try the new warrior I have the Nomad compressor and it works great. So if thats a sign of their products?
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I started with a Benjamin pump, Then I upgraded to the Hill MK4. Took a Short break from the hobby, and when I came back I decided to try one of the Chinese built 4500 psi pumps I saw on eBay that are only $43. I Will never spend more than 40 something dollars on a pump again the one I got is great. It may be slightly less refined than the Hill however it’s still built well, it has collapsible legs for the stand so it’s easy to put away, it has a liquid filled gauge, and any difference in effort is negligible. I’m filling a 480cc bottle to 230 BAR on a Bantam and it’s working great. Having had both, there is no way I’d spend the money on the Hill again as it’s not much better than the China special, absolutely save your money and put it towards a tank or whatever.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Stage-PCP-Air-Gun-Rifle-Filling-Stirrup-Pump-Hand-Pump-4500PSI-Gas-Filter/182801932393?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Stage-PCP-Air-Gun-Rifle-Filling-Stirrup-Pump-Hand-Pump-4500PSI-Gas-Filter/182801932393?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
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I looked at your Chinese made pump and it looks great. I do wonder about the issue of moisture filtering. Is that a best practice for PCP? I am currently using IZH 46M single shot and want to do back yard small game. I appreciate the advice and am learning a bunch. Next step is figuring out the pellet sizers and how to I know what the bore size of the Pistol I want to buy. I am looking at the HW44 so I can reload faster.
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IS the Hill made in China? If so then I will buy the Chinese pump instead of Hill. IF Hill were US, then I would go ahead and buy it.
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Not sure where the Hill is made, and I am all for supporting US manufacturing, but for the tune of six times the price I am going to go with the Chinese every time on this one 
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The Hill pump is made in England. I have owned a MK3 for about 6 years with no problems. The last 2 years I have not used it much just to fill up pistols because I now have a tank. M
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Have had a Hill MK3 for five years and still going strong and parts are readily available. Moisture filtering is always a good idea especially if you live in a humid area but I question the efficacy of the OEM moisture filters on hand pumps. The air can simply channel around the moisture absorbing beads as opposed to being forced through them and the other problem I have is the beads are continually exposed to the ambient air when the pump is not in use so they're absorbing moisture the whole time. I think it's as much marketing as anything else as the user continuously has to buy new packets of desiccant.
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I own a Hill MK3 and honestly cannot recommend it. Made of carbon steel, flimsy threads. A pain to service and Hill's customer service is non existent (they will not even talk to you). The silly moisture filter was clearly an after thought.
I now also have a Chinese Bull pump, all stainless, way sturdier, very easy to service, more air per stroke. The guys from Bull actually talk back to you. I would replace the hose on the Bull, but other than that, the Bull superior in every single way to the Hill. And the Bull is about half the price from the Hill.
I have not used the Hill once since owning the Bull.
I now also have a Chinese Bull pump, all stainless, way sturdier, very easy to service, more air per stroke. The guys from Bull actually talk back to you. I would replace the hose on the Bull, but other than that, the Bull superior in every single way to the Hill. And the Bull is about half the price from the Hill.
I have not used the Hill once since owning the Bull.
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Thank you for the info. Very helpful. I am looking at the Hill MK4. I would like to believe they have addressed the issues you have experienced?
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The only problem of the Hill pump is price. The mk4 costs $256 , more than a Yong Heng compressor , very hard to justify.
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Who remembers the Yellow Hil hand pump? An ugly mean joke that was but times have changed.
Had a more modern Hill, 1st FX and a Blue FX hand pump, now have the Taousa hand pump and while costing $60.00 it is better than the rest. The machining is better , a bit easier to use, feet fold and is priced at what a hand pump should cost.
THE reason hand pumps are so pricey is when they came out a heavy scuba tank was the only other option, no one used scba & compressors cost darn near as much as a bottom dollar new car so a very high price ( for a couple of steel tubes & seals) could be asked. Ah the "Freedom" of a hand pump, who wouldn't pay top dollar for such a novel idea.
So you are looking at some steel tube with seals and I personally have seen that other companies can assemble such things just as well or better than the older over priced name brands. Now when the "Benjamin" hand pump came out ( with all service by the folks in TX who advised putting automotive engine oil inside your hand pump ) it set an all time standard for poor tolerances which may have falsely led some to think they was some advance science or magic such in production as the much more costly pumps were better. This is not the case today.
Where is your nearest airgunner? I use an altros booster for air but keep the hand pump around just to show other people how easy they really are to use, maybe try one locally.
John
Had a more modern Hill, 1st FX and a Blue FX hand pump, now have the Taousa hand pump and while costing $60.00 it is better than the rest. The machining is better , a bit easier to use, feet fold and is priced at what a hand pump should cost.
THE reason hand pumps are so pricey is when they came out a heavy scuba tank was the only other option, no one used scba & compressors cost darn near as much as a bottom dollar new car so a very high price ( for a couple of steel tubes & seals) could be asked. Ah the "Freedom" of a hand pump, who wouldn't pay top dollar for such a novel idea.
So you are looking at some steel tube with seals and I personally have seen that other companies can assemble such things just as well or better than the older over priced name brands. Now when the "Benjamin" hand pump came out ( with all service by the folks in TX who advised putting automotive engine oil inside your hand pump ) it set an all time standard for poor tolerances which may have falsely led some to think they was some advance science or magic such in production as the much more costly pumps were better. This is not the case today.
Where is your nearest airgunner? I use an altros booster for air but keep the hand pump around just to show other people how easy they really are to use, maybe try one locally.
John
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If you really want to go for high-end hand pump, get that made by Huben. The tube is made of titanium. I have handled one at a local shop. Very light and well made. Cost close to Hill pump Mk4 but just like all Huben products, they are difficult to get due to very limited supply .
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSSb2J3HzAg
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