Not sure. As in a completely self contained, off the shelf cartridge?Isn’t the AEA defender (I believe that is the model ?) using this system currently??
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Not sure. As in a completely self contained, off the shelf cartridge?Isn’t the AEA defender (I believe that is the model ?) using this system currently??
I mean pre packaged, precharged cartridges. Not necessarily relocated bottles that one has to mate to a projectile to make into a cartridge. Basically just like a firearm cartridge, only with compressed gas.I'm not getting what you mean by "Off the shelf".
If you bought the carts for the Inovairtech? I'd call those off the shelf.
Hmmm... Do those loads arrive "plug, and play"? Or do you have to charge them, and load a projectile into them?
It was only classified as a firearm by Alphabet org long after it was released and marketed as an airgun by DaisyDaisy VL, by legal definition, is a Fire Arm.
My buddy and I had VLs, we purchased thinking they were underlever springers. They shot “caseless” .22 ammo, they were not airguns… The first time we tried to send pellets? They just blooped out of the muzzle. We killed many squirrels with ours, I sold mine before I ran out of the hard to find and fragile, caseless ammo.Don't overlook the Daisy VL that was an under lever airgun in .22 until the Alphabet org stepped in
BRK Brocock did so successfully, they were subsequently classified as firearms in the UK.So... I'm guessing that despite steps toward this end... No one has successfully developed a plug, and play self contained airgun cartridge. Is that correct?
So true. Still have 3 VL's in there original boxes but there's no market because of the lack of ammo. They are useless without ammo unlike the HW 35 Barracuda that when ether ampules disappeared they could still be used as a springerMy buddy and I had VLs, we purchased thinking they were underlever springers. They shot “caseless” .22 ammo, they were not airguns… The first time we tried to send pellets? They just blooped out of the muzzle. We killed many squirrels with ours, I sold mine before I ran out of the hard to find and fragile, caseless ammo.
Well... I looked at the examples shown in this thread, and with that... I'm somewhat disenfranchised. It still seems that the end user had to charge the cylinder and add the projectile. Very different from my OP question...BRK Brocock did so successfully, they were subsequently classified as firearms in the UK.
Not sure of having pre charged cartridges, but I know you can use a ramset 22 shell in a 22lr with a crosman 14.3 in front of it and make them go about 1400 fps and right through a road sign!