Has A Cartridge Ever Been Tried?
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There were parlor guns that loaded a pellet like a muzzle loader and just a percussion cap for propulsion. Some were elegant guns. I also have a Harper Patent gun that fits in the palm of your hand. It is a double barrel and .22 cal. It takes 2 small cartridges that pump up with a special pump, which sadly I don't have.
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It seems, any type of cartridge that is powered by compressed air, or other gas, would be hugely disadvantaged by both the loading and maintaining requirements of such cartridges. There are millions of WWII era cartridges that are still available and shootable. I can't imagine such long term storage of this type cartridge.
As the old saying goes, the perfect solution to a nonexistent problem.
As the old saying goes, the perfect solution to a nonexistent problem.
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I think that Umarex’s cartridge system that they use on their replica guns has a lot of potential. Sure, you still need a source of air or CO2, but by surrounding the pellet in a cartridge it allows them to feed in the same manner as they would on a powder burner which should make stick magazines or belts practical.
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Looks like the gun Mrodair listed on the site. Is that aluminum barrel anodized inside? BTW the Crosman Trapmaster 1100 barrel is also aluminum. Anodize is aluminum oxide and very hard. Try machining aluminum cut off with a torch sometime........There is this system.
The Modoc big bore from Air Ordnance: Part 1 | Blog | Pyramyd AIR
by Tom Gaylord Writing as B.B. Pelletier The Modoc from Air Ordnance is a new single shot big bore in 9mm. This report covers: What is the Modoc? The difference between 9mm and .357 caliber Aluminum barrel! Long barrel Air cartridges 4500 psi The gun Open sights Weaver bases Air cartridges Open...www.pyramydair.com
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I had big hopes for Inovairtech, they also had a revolver and a cowboy style lever action in the plans.
I think where they made a mistake was to focus on big bores where a .257 or .308 would have suited the system better IMO
Hope an other company revisits the idea down the line.
I think where they made a mistake was to focus on big bores where a .257 or .308 would have suited the system better IMO
Hope an other company revisits the idea down the line.
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My thoughts exactly! I just imagine an infantry battalion arriving on a battlefield with such tech, only to realize many of their cartridges had leaked and now they just get to stand there as the enemy mows them down
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I think the Modoc was something of a failure. Cartridges required 4500 psi, cartridges were leaky, one even went off accidentally during loading and injured the shooter, etc., things like that
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The Brococks were very nice guns, and a great system, but a lot of people did not like the time one had to invest in loading each cartridge, and demanded the instant gratification of CO2 cartridges or PCP. I have to admit that loading the BACs is time consuming, but I don't imagine hand loading black powder, one cartridge at a time, was dissimilar. So, I guess realism has a lot to do with their attraction. The guns themselves are extremely realistic. There is not a piece of plastic or pot metal anywhere on them, and the grips are all very nice walnut or other wood.
Here are a few photos of some of the ones I now own, and a shot of the cartridges themselves.
Here are a few photos of some of the ones I now own, and a shot of the cartridges themselves.
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I reckon you’re right about the loading ritual similarities between the Brococks and black powder guns. I have the black powder versions of several of your guns and have to admit that the loading routine is all part of the fun
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