I see that cnc machines have accelerated production by 8 times, so it would be logical for air weapons to become cheaper...
Has the time finally come to make air guns cheaper?!
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The devil is in the details. The cost of the machinery to automate production? Heck, that's almost costs nothing. R&D? Nahhhh, no one pays for any of that stuff either. Ya got me! I cannot imagine why these pieces of finely machined metal aren't as cheap as chips!
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It is a hobby ! like boating , you can buy a brass bracket at the hardware store for $8 OR you can buy it at the marina for $54 .
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It would be logical to make it cheaper, BUT the contagious disease of all administrations is that they are eternally hungry and their heads are ringing more more and more
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I would not use an airgun as a weapon. I would pick up something much more effective to defend my life without hesitation. But at any rate it’s against the forum rules to discuss airguns as weapons.
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1 - Yeah, as noted..."good" CNC equipment is NOT...cheap.
2 - There's original design time, also...not cheap.
3 - Have a meeting of ALL of the company players to make sure everyone is happy with the new gun.
4 - Inspection, rework, and put the info into a computer.
5 - Then you build a "first article" gun. Test the hell out of it, make sure nothing fails...especially the air cylinder.
6 - Then you make changes to the original design,
7 - Retest.
8 - Machine all parts
9 - Inspect all parts
10 - Coat all parts (anodize), inspect.
11 - Assemble into a working gun.
12 - New marketing.
13 - New packaging.
What did I forget ?
Now...just who do you think has to pay for all of this, especially, #1 ?
Unfortunately we...the dumb, buyers do !
Mike
2 - There's original design time, also...not cheap.
3 - Have a meeting of ALL of the company players to make sure everyone is happy with the new gun.
4 - Inspection, rework, and put the info into a computer.
5 - Then you build a "first article" gun. Test the hell out of it, make sure nothing fails...especially the air cylinder.
6 - Then you make changes to the original design,
7 - Retest.
8 - Machine all parts
9 - Inspect all parts
10 - Coat all parts (anodize), inspect.
11 - Assemble into a working gun.
12 - New marketing.
13 - New packaging.
What did I forget ?
Now...just who do you think has to pay for all of this, especially, #1 ?
Unfortunately we...the dumb, buyers do !
Mike
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The costs involved in warranty work, insurance, breakage, the fact that some businesses operate in countries where people get a livable wage, rent, electric bill, repair costs for machines, updating machines, training employees...
You can get an AV Avenger for $350 thats a great, cheap gun. Not every company can do that.
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O yes make them cheaper for the penny pusher please.... and make them with cheap material too 
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Labor is not free so it some part of the machine is a little cheaper but in the grand scheme of things it’s won’t make too much of a difference unless everything g else is automated and optimized. Given the lower volume outside of FX I doubt the CNC machines will make the end price cheaper but certainly saves a few bucks in for the manufacturer’s wallet.
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Would be nice but not likely. Those CNC machines are extremely expensive and the people required to program and operate then don't come cheap either.
The great thing about the CNC machines (I have a hobby one) is that once they are programed the parts they produce are consistent and they can run pretty much unattended.
Think that with the situation in China our source of cheap goods is going to disappear and we're all in a rough time until we can get our own manufacturing plants up and running. The good news is that there will be lots of jobs, the bad news is that north american labor is expensive and that will be reflected in the cost of products.
Cheers!
The great thing about the CNC machines (I have a hobby one) is that once they are programed the parts they produce are consistent and they can run pretty much unattended.
Think that with the situation in China our source of cheap goods is going to disappear and we're all in a rough time until we can get our own manufacturing plants up and running. The good news is that there will be lots of jobs, the bad news is that north american labor is expensive and that will be reflected in the cost of products.
Cheers!
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Probably making them as cheap as it gets , but your going to pay . Highest profit margin, markup.
Make a gun for 75$ but your price 559.99$. (+ free shipping
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Make a gun for 75$ but your price 559.99$. (+ free shipping
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"air weapons to become cheaper..."
I wasn't aware my airguns where weapons. Unless your using them in the wrong way. Many things can become can become a weapon, if used to inflict injury.
0P Definitely needs to change his vocabulary.
I wasn't aware my airguns where weapons. Unless your using them in the wrong way. Many things can become can become a weapon, if used to inflict injury.
0P Definitely needs to change his vocabulary.
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the cnc add production not savings one center is very costly.
any money saved short of pennies through production the cost of the machine eats.
now if the market would allow for ulimeted sales then those pennies would stack up.
any money saved short of pennies through production the cost of the machine eats.
now if the market would allow for ulimeted sales then those pennies would stack up.
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