I recently bought a Hatsan Blitz and it will not take a charge. It seems like the air is just leaking from around The Fill port. I thought maybe my compressor hose was leaking at first but I had no problem filling my Sig Sauer. How can I fix this or should I just return it?
Hatsan Blitz won't take a charge
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Bought new? Contact Hatsan. Checked o-rings on probe? Not much of an explanation of exactly how/where the leak is.
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Yes, I bought it new from Pyramid Air. It's not so much leaking as it is not taking air. I can feel it pushing the air out of the fill port. And the O-rings are brand new
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Based on my past experience with Hatsans it sounds like the valve in gun's air reservoir isn't opening to allow a fill. Not familiar with Blitz but the BT65 I had owned was easy to open & check it out. I looked at reviews for the Blitz. Thought you might find this comment interesting
What others should know:
When first setting up your Blitz. You will need to set the O-Rings in the tank by using a blast of air from a tank. Like setting a tire bead. I have hand pump and a Velvor Compressor Neither one worked. So plan on doing this first day. Haven't had a problem since.!
Btw, there were MANY comments about how prone they are to jamming (IF you get past the fill process)
What others should know:
When first setting up your Blitz. You will need to set the O-Rings in the tank by using a blast of air from a tank. Like setting a tire bead. I have hand pump and a Velvor Compressor Neither one worked. So plan on doing this first day. Haven't had a problem since.!
Btw, there were MANY comments about how prone they are to jamming (IF you get past the fill process)
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Yeah I'm not sure about that. I do know you have to take the whole gun apart because it is a non-removable Air Canister, unlike my Sig Sauer MCX which simply unscrews from the rear stock
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If you can't get the O-Rings to seat and there isn't anyone near you with a PCP tank to give it shot of air, you might try a large water trap / filter in line to act as a small tank, if you don't already have a trap - you should have one anyway, so it won't be a wasted purchase. To build up pressure in the water trap, you will need an on off valve between the trap and your fill probe that will allow you to fill the water trap to 250 BAR then release a short burst into the gun. If doing this from a large tank, be sure to only do short bursts until it seals. Don't fill the bottle too fast as it will over heat your gun and the bottle.
As for jamming, you might need to do the Blitz magazine mod for reliable performance. You definitely will if you increase the hammer spring tension. The one I just bought from Midway would jam after 5-10 shots before the mod. After - not a single jam in about 500 rounds so far. Also, without the mod, if it is jamming, impact from the probe will damage the tips of the red wheel because it won't be fully indexed before the bolt reaches the magazine, so don't keep shooting it if it is jamming.
You might be able to pay for your Blitz at the shooting range by charging people $15 - $20 to shoot it at a row of 2 Liter bottles filled with compressed air!
As for jamming, you might need to do the Blitz magazine mod for reliable performance. You definitely will if you increase the hammer spring tension. The one I just bought from Midway would jam after 5-10 shots before the mod. After - not a single jam in about 500 rounds so far. Also, without the mod, if it is jamming, impact from the probe will damage the tips of the red wheel because it won't be fully indexed before the bolt reaches the magazine, so don't keep shooting it if it is jamming.
You might be able to pay for your Blitz at the shooting range by charging people $15 - $20 to shoot it at a row of 2 Liter bottles filled with compressed air!
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Thanks very much for the heads up on the jamming issue. As for the fill method you are describing, I will have to purchase the water trap and shut off. Do you have a particular one that you would suggest that works well? Maybe a link?
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You are welcome.
Do you know anyone with a PCP tank setup who could help you out, or is there an airgun store near you? Once the O-rings are set, your compressor will do the job by itself.
What model compressor do you have? The "Orange" sealed / maintenance free coalescing type water separator trap seems to be the most popular one, but it might be too large for your compressor. I bought a big gold colored double tube setup from Tuxing to use with my Yong Heng, with a cotton filter in it and zeolite / charcoal in the 2nd tube. I wish I had gotten the "Orange" sealed type water trap instead. It is a pain to have to open the Tuxing up every time to dry out / replace the filter. The water doesn't drain out of the bleed valve like it does with the Orange one. Fortunately, the air here is very dry so not much moisture gets into the big separator.
There are fancier water traps out there as well but the cost goes up. Be aware that running a big water trap on a small compressor like a GX CS3 takes a long time to reach 250 bar - BUT a bigger trap will likely give you a better chance of sealing those O-Rings. Others might have some good suggestions to better match your compressor if you have a GX style.
Sealed "Orange" water trap on eBay.
The small separators like this blue one, are unlikely to provide nearly enough volume of air to seat the O-Rings.
I have not tried connecting a valve between the water separator and the gun, but it should act like a small air tank. Maybe some who have tried this can give better suggestions there. I also don't know for sure if the Orange separator and valve combo, filled to 2500 PSI or so will work to seat the O-Rings but as noted above, having a water trap is a very good idea regardless. This valve on Ali Express is rated at 32 MPA / 4640 PSI and is fairly inexpensive. You would need to find the appropriate fittings to add some 1/8 quick connectors to each end plus an additional hose to go from the gun to the valve. Be sure that you don't start or restart your compressor with the water separator under pressure.
Valve on Ali Express
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Is your compressor like this one? If yes, a large water separator like the "Orange" one above might work to produce a high enough volume of air at sufficient pressure to seat the O-Rings, but it will definitely increase the fill time for recharging your rifle quite a bit, due to the large internal volume of the cylinder. All I use on my GX compressor is the small blue water separator. The large one I use only on the Yong Heng.
I just now remembered that the fill probe that came with my Blitz did not have any O-Rings installed and there were no instructions about it. By chance is yours the same, just brass only? If it is, take two of the smallest outer diameter black O-Rings that came in the poly bag with the gun and install them in the grooves on the fill probe. Rub a bit of silicone oil or grease on them to make installation easier as well as inserting into the gun. Don't use the single O-ring that came in there that has a slightly larger outer diameter, but has a thinner cross section.
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I had the same problem with the piledriver. I used the suggestion by Geezerhood in seating the o-ring but with a different method. I happen to have a Scott air-pak and fill adapter. Hooked it up and opened the valve slowing as I gradually increased the pressure and I heard the ring seat and tank being to fill successfully. If you don't have that capability check you local paintball shops they may be able to help. Hope you got it resolved already of this helps someone going forward.
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When my brand new hats and did that I used my air compressor set at 120 PSI it was just enough pressure to make it seat before I hooked it up to the regular high pressure air compressor
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