Help.....HW97K or AA TX200 MKIII..it's driving me crazy!

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I will admit the TX200 MKIII is the better looking gun. The blueing is nicer and so is the stock. But they cost more, too. Both have great triggers. And both have excellent accurate barrels. I don't own a TX200, but I do want one. I have studied them hard. I know a lot about Lothar Walther barrels for I have 5 Kidd barrels on my 10/22's and Kidd uses Lothar Walther rifled blanks to make their barrels from. I will share a few groups on how the Kidd barrels can shoot. I love my Weihrauch HW77K Special Edition laminate stock, and I just bought a Weihrauch HW97K beech wood stock gun. I am sure I will love it just as well.


 
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This was from 2 different Kidd barrel 10/22's I have. Lothar Walther makes a killer barrel.
 
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Wow! Thank you guys so much. I just got home form work and read the advice and opinions you guys offered up. I love this platform for sharing and learning. Very much appreciated. Ya know, it wasn't long ago that all I was set on and drooling over was the Weihrauchs. It was a much simpler decision. But then I became aware of the AA TX and then things got really complicated. So much of what you fellas offered in your responses has really helped me sort some things out. I'm not decided yet. But I am leaning a bit more one way than the other. Both are beautiful rifles. But, the TX is....well......absolutely gorgeous, from the wood to the bluing. It's like looking at a beautiful woman....you just can't keep your eyes off of it. It makes you start scheming of ways to get her. The TX also, from what I have read and some of you have mentioned, is much easier to service/tear down than the 97. Which is very appealing to me because I really like to do things myself when I can and prefer simplicity. Then there is the 97. A rifle of equal quality, capability and a real looker as well. But....can be had at a price point that is much more tempting and would be easier on the wallet and allow more wiggle room for good optics. Oh brother!! If only I could afford both....I honestly would have one each. Also, I have heard of KRALE but have never really looked at them. I thought they were an over the pond company. Figured shipping would be very high...I'll take a look at them.

Again...thank you all so much. I will probably come up with some more questions before it is all said and done. I am always open to any opinions and advice. So much experience and collective knowledge here.....thank y'all.

TR


 
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https://www.krale-schietsport.nl/en/

Krale is cheaper on Weihrauch rifles. I tried to buy one. But my bank don't allow overseas purchases due to fraud. You will need a credit card to buy from them. I don't have a credit card. I buy with debit or cash. Shipping to the states is about $50. I did tell Dennis he needs to look into taking PayPal.
 
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I have bought 2 rifles (Walther LGVs .177 &.22, did I mention you should look into them?) I kid you not! Took all of 3 days to get from NL to Ga, USA!!! Shipping is about $30-$50, and totally worth it. When you compare the cost of the HW97 from PA or AoA to the total price from Krale, with shipping, there’s no contest. 

If you want a Breakbarrel with the accuracy of a fixed barrel, get the LGV. If you can only afford one rifle and want the absolute best looking, awesome finish, walnut stocked rifle that is very accurate, get the TX200, if you are low on funds and want an awesome shooting rifle that is fairly easy to tune with a great trigger to boot, get the HW97 from Krale, if $ is no issue, get them all. 
 
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They are all in the same league for accuracy. Had to get a vortex kit to get the performance and accuracy I wanted from my TX200. Shot in my 97 for several hundred rounds than relubbed to get it where I wanted it. Still little twangy but very accurate. My LGU is the most accurate. Never had to do any tuning. Shot like a tuned rifle right out of the box. Just replaced the trigger screw (yankee tune) 49 cents. Very sweet shot cycle. The TX is just as nice now shot cycle wise, but had to spend 95.00 and honestly had fun tinkering. No doubt the 97 would be just as good with a vortex. The LGU was just the easiest and most accurate of the 3 out of the box.
 
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I have two of each, but all but one TX are pro-tuned, so it's not exactly representative of what you'd get with a new one. 

I think I shoot the TX a little bit better and it's trigger is a little bit better than the rekord, but that's a really good trigger too! The TX wins the beauty contest - on a used Mark II (standard checkering on the stock), the bluing is somewhat nicer than a Weihrach; on the current Mark III, the bluing a lot nicer - deeply polished like black glass. If you spring for the walnut stock, some of those are really nice.

The HW, on the other hand, is noticeably easier to load than the TX because the way the receiver is cut out. And I tend grab one of the them more often than my TX for whatever reason. It's also available at a considerably lower price.

Bottom line: you can't go wrong between the two. Pick one and enjoy. And eventually, you'll buy the other because you'll never know otherwise.

But then what happened to the HW95? Also an extremely popular gun, and for good reason. Why drove you to decide to abandon the break barrels and go the underlever route? The original post said you wanted to by "another" springer...what is the current springer? Let's hear the full story!!


 
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My LGU seems to be by far the most forgiving (least hold sensitive) of my three, easiest to shoot accurately, but like they say.....each one can be different. This is just my experience.
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I have an LGU as well. It shoots better than my HW97K. It is a lot easier to disassemble with only two hex keys and no other tools.
 
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Well, I too have an LGU and it is a sweetie also. I added a .003" metal sleeve to the piston tube and that completely took out any vibration while making the gun even more accurate.

Of the three, the LGU is easiest to shoot by almost an inperceivable amount over the HW97. The LGU needed some hard core trigger work. The second stage screw is to close to the sear fulcrum (the pin that the sear pivots on). I filled in the narrow sides of the trigger body with JB weld, drilled and installed a new screw that is further away from that pin, which gave better leverage leading to a lighter pull.

Even with a modified Vortek kit (less powerful spring) the TX, although accurate, is the most hold sensitive of the three, but the challenge of shooting it makes it fun.
 
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I have two of each, but all but one TX are pro-tuned, so it's not exactly representative of what you'd get with a new one. 

I think I shoot the TX a little bit better and it's trigger is a little bit better than the rekord, but that's a really good trigger too! The TX wins the beauty contest - on a used Mark II (standard checkering on the stock), the bluing is somewhat nicer than a Weihrach; on the current Mark III, the bluing a lot nicer - deeply polished like black glass. If you spring for the walnut stock, some of those are really nice.

The HW, on the other hand, is noticeably easier to load than the TX because the way the receiver is cut out. And I tend grab one of the them more often than my TX for whatever reason. It's also available at a considerably lower price.

Bottom line: you can't go wrong between the two. Pick one and enjoy. And eventually, you'll buy the other because you'll never know otherwise.

But then what happened to the HW95? Also an extremely popular gun, and for good reason. Why drove you to decide to abandon the break barrels and go the underlever route? The original post said you wanted to by "another" springer...what is the current springer? Let's hear the full story!!

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Already have a break barrel. My current rifle is an RWS 34. And quite honestly, it has proven itself to be a very accurate rifle. I shoot it every week as often as I can and have come to really love it. To try answer your question, I would love to own a HW95 still. I don't have the financial mojo to just buy all three or I would!! But, I like the idea of a fixed barrel. I've read that better accuracy can be had with them. And from what I have also been able to research, the pedigree of the HW97/77 and the TX kinda proves that theory out. Plus, to my eye they are just beautiful guns. And probably the foremost reason I would like to own one of them is simply because I would like to own one. Never gonna replace or get rid of the 34 I have, but nothing wrong with having a small stable of different types and or makes.

TR
 
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When I was looking into these guns, I looked really hard at the LGU, but was swayed away from it because I had read some reports about the cocking mechanism having problems. 

I ended up with the LGV instead because of the above, the rock solid lock up, and ease of loading. 

Now, if one of your solid reasons to buy the gun is quality, accuracy, and sheer good looks, you will probably still will want the TX after you buy something else. At least that’s the tug it has on me. Because frankly, all or most of these gun names being tossed around on this thread will do the job just fine. 

One of the guys here, AG5643, actually sold a gorgeous TX200 after he bought the LGV. In retrospect, I should have bought IT, and still got the LGV. 

If you come around my neck of the woods, let me know and you are welcome to come by and shoot my guns. I’m just N of ATL. 
 
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The only way to sleep good at night is to get them both I've done that several times, Rapid 12 or SLR 98? Wildcat .25 or Wildcat .22? In both cases I bought them both, it took a while but I never regretted doing it. I will even be an enabler to the addiction I will sell this TX200mk3 .22 closet queen as it sits with BSA sweet .22 3x9, no dings nicks scratches or handling marks, it has English walnut oil finish on the walnut stock hands down the most beautiful airgun I've ever had, it's never been farther than my deck and never shot much, If interested PM me and I'll give you the specifics, I don't use it.
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Shot this group some months ago as reference not cherry picked or special, group was shot from sitting position, likes JSB 18's.
 
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