help very new to all this and im confused!

[Firewalker]

I think I am going to settle on a pistol type plinker until I get my funds up for the t9 or m50. Does the notos have a pistol version? I feel like I’ve seen something like that online. I want something compact like a pistol .22-.25

Pistols are easy!

 

[DeanB]

Ge

Oh wow look at all the thorough responses! I just seen this now I didn’t think anybody would even answer lol. I actually didn’t realize that using a hand pump would be so difficult with the m50. I am thinking more about it now and honestly this seems like it would be a very expensive route for me rn to go with the m50 AND a compressor. I was really trying to keep this under $800 for everything. What do you guys think is the maximum psi of a gun that I can comfortably use a hand pump on? I may just wait it out on the m50 in the future when my funds are a little deeper.

What do you guys think about the Hatsan jet or the hatsan sortie for plinking and small game? Might try a high caliber pistol instead maybe it will be a bit more budget friendly. Thanks everyone

t the Notos over the Hatsan Jet you wont regret it.

 

[beerthief]

What do you think about that macavity arms ma2 in 30 cal? It’s pretty affordable as well. Do you think that is a good enough caliber for hogs? The biggest reason I don’t want something in .22 is because I feel like it won’t generate enough power for what I’m trying to do. The notos looks nice but I just don’t know if it has the kind of stopping power I’m looking for

just a comment : filling a 4500PSI gun from a low of say 2800 psi with a hand pump would be like filling your car gas tank using a shot glass . and you would need to do that every 5 shots? on the .50 caliber gun . Just a guess but probably not too far off .

 

[rscottar]

I'm sure, that just as in powder burners , bullet placement is everything. One would still need adequate power though. .22 is not legal amost everywhere as it just does not have enough power for ethical use on game as large as deer. If I am not mistaken a .25 is near that level. In Arkansas at least ,40 caliber and at least 400 fpe is required. Many other states have similar rules. Be wary of the possum cops.

 

[30clipslinger]

I have the MA2 in .30 cal. It does have a good punch to it (80fpe). There are many videos of guys taking hogs with .25, which on the average are around 40-50 fpe. The MA2 should be plenty. It is also very accurate. I have been hitting 1 inch targets at 75 yds pretty easily.

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That’s beautiful! I ended up going with the talon p. I should be getting a Hp max in 30 soon. I think they Generate about 100fpe. Can’t wait to hunt with it! How is the stock on the ma2? I heard from some that they can be a bit flimsy

 

[30clipslinger]

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Pistols are easy!

Those both notos’? They look purdyyy. The pistol looks very cool!

Ge

t the Notos over the Hatsan Jet you wont regret it.

Ended up getting a talon p!

just a comment : filling a 4500PSI gun from a low of say 2800 psi with a hand pump would be like filling your car gas tank using a shot glass . and you would need to do that every 5 shots? on the .50 caliber gun . Just a guess but probably not too far off .

I ended up getting a cheap 4 stage Chinese hand pump and it pooped the bed on me on my 3rd use. Ended up buying a $160 portable compressor. Have used it about 3 times and is working great so far. Hope it stays working lol I’m crossing my fingers!

 

[rcrochte]

That’s beautiful! I ended up going with the talon p. I should be getting a Hp max in 30 soon. I think they Generate about 100fpe. Can’t wait to hunt with it! How is the stock on the ma2? I heard from some that they can be a bit flimsy

Yes, it is a little at the lower pic rail. Doesn't bother me too much, I seldom use a bipod.

 

[rcrochte]

Ge

t the Notos over the Hatsan Jet you wont regret it.

Definitely the Notos over the Jet. I have, real fun to shoot. Not much power but is fine for small rabbits and dove, and of course pest control.

 

[willy]

I am also fairly new at this. The first rifle I bought was an AEA Megalodon. Get your self a handpump to use in a “have to “case, like when your electricity is out due to a storm or something. You won’t pump any guns pressure tanks up to 4500psi. There are small high pressure compressors that use 12 volt DC motors for less than 200 bucks. they are best powered from a vehicle battery. They have 110 volt units that make 12voltDC , imo they don’t make sufficient power to run compressors. For slightly less than 300 bucks you can get a high pressure air pump, more trouble due to being water cooled but not that big of a deal to use. They are fast, it takes a small compressor 15 to 20 minutes to pump my .6 liters tanks from 2500 to 4500 psi. It take the high pressure air pump I recently got 3 1/2 minutes to do the same thing. If you wish to hand pump your gun you should go with something other than 4500 psi. Maybe 3000psi would be manageable, barely also be prepared to service the hand pump often, get a the seals and stuff to repair it when it stops pumping. I would like to recommend you get a Megalodon, it is an awesome super fun airgun to use, however at least my specific rifle has this valve lock thing it will do when you do exactly what you were asking could you do. Leaving it setting with pressure near the max and when you go to shoot it you get a half power shot that barely gets the slug or pellet out of the barrel. I’m going to test it and see if a lower pressure won’t valve lock. Otherwise I would have to shoot it before I head to a stand or hunting spot to be sure that first shot from the stand would be a full power shot. I have a 50 cal , 8 round mags, pump action and the stroke to work action is very short, you can repeat shoot it as fast as you can cycle the action. It will produce 2 mags worth of quite lethal shots from a full charge of air and that leaves 2500 psi in the tanks. Dual tank gun with a rear tank acting as part of the stock , that tank can be removed by unscrewing from the gun leaving you with a long barreled pistol sort of, the tank does not degas when you remove it and neither does the gun. The gun will work then off the front tank just like a single tank gun , when your ready for your stock back you screw it back on and you have that air to use again. If not for the valve lock thing happening it would be a perfect hunting gun. I’m going to hunt with it, I will just shoot it into the ground before I leave the house. I’m the mean time I may try replacing hammer spring or something. Be warned , AEA and Bintec are coming from AEA I believe, the guns do not come with anykind of manual. You have you watch YouTube videos and basically figure it out. Pick a good shop to buy from if you decide to go with either brand, they will help you get going properly. I got my stuff from Bluegrass Big Bore and they gave me excellent customer service. AEA makes a single shot side lever action rifle called Element, it can easily be modified by the shop to have the same rear tank set up as the Megalodon but it’s just single shot. I was going to go that way but ultimately choose the Megalodone. To spite the valve lock issue I couldn’t be happier with it, I shoot it nearly everyday, I plink with .495 round lead ball ammo for like 12 cents per shot. They cycle through mags perfectly. I would check you tube and comb through big bore airgun reviews , I seen a great looking riflethat was .457 and the reviewer shot a bottle cap off the top of an inflated ballon without breaking the ballon. He was keyhole grouping with it out to fifty yards and was knocking down 8 inch steel plates at 200 yards. I’m sorry I don’t remember the name of the rifle, I will try to find the video and message you where to find it. I should also mention after you get into this , your also going to want a tank , so you can quickly air you gun in the field or tether to it when you bench shoot it. I’m 200 bucks into getting that set up , I just need one more 50 dollar valve and I will be able to fill a carbon fiber 4.7 liter tank to 4500 to air up my rifle anywhere I may have it. If you don’t want a compressor or air pump you should go with a regulated gun the tops off at 3000 max, and that won’t be fun to pump up to, but it is possible. I hope something in all that helps. just trying to give you a glimps of what your in for, don’t get me wrong though, I have zero regrets up to this point. The air gun is somewhere between a muzzle loader and a compound bow is the best way i can describe it in terms that might click for you. the round is way faster than a bow, but slower than a muzzle loader. A 100 yard shot has more hang time than you expect it to , but it gets there and slams the target hard, at least at 50 caliber it does. Good luck my friend, I hope you have as much fun as I have had.

Jim

 

[willy]

WOW" Jim thats quite a report"iv been into airguns for 50years?and tell ya i learned alot from that" ill have to read it again. You are definitely the big bore man" thanks again Willy

 

[Panzerfaust]

Those both notos’? They look purdyyy. The pistol looks very cool!

Ended up getting a talon p!

I ended up getting a cheap 4 stage Chinese hand pump and it pooped the bed on me on my 3rd use. Ended up buying a $160 portable compressor. Have used it about 3 times and is working great so far. Hope it stays working lol I’m crossing my fingers!

I suspected as much about those 4 stage pumps. I almost bought one just so I have a hand pump in the case of no electric it could come in handy. looks like I’ll be waiting until someone makes one that will function more than 2 or 3 times. I don’t think you mentioned the brand of compressor you ended up getting. I think internally they are all about the same in terms of how they get the rotation of the electric motor to actually turn the compressor part of the unit. It might be a good idea to remove the screws and take off the outer cover and look at the linkage between the electric motor and the compressor unit. If you see a bearing that rides in a slot probably coated in some type of grease. Then that screw holding that bearing in place as it goes back and forth in the slot is exactly what killed my first little compressor. It started to loosen and caused that linkage to bind up and this caused end of motor shaft to break off. If that had not happened I would probably still be using that first compressor. I didn’t know to check it though , it happened the 5th or 6th time I used the thing. So, I figured if your has that same linkage(I hear they are very common) I would pass this info on to you so you might avoid a similar type of failure. Freshening up that grease every now and then and insuring that little screw stays tight will hopefully make it last forever, or at least as long as you need it to last. Happy shooting!

 

[30clipslinger]

I suspected as much about those 4 stage pumps. I almost bought one just so I have a hand pump in the case of no electric it could come in handy. looks like I’ll be waiting until someone makes one that will function more than 2 or 3 times. I don’t think you mentioned the brand of compressor you ended up getting. I think internally they are all about the same in terms of how they get the rotation of the electric motor to actually turn the compressor part of the unit. It might be a good idea to remove the screws and take off the outer cover and look at the linkage between the electric motor and the compressor unit. If you see a bearing that rides in a slot probably coated in some type of grease. Then that screw holding that bearing in place as it goes back and forth in the slot is exactly what killed my first little compressor. It started to loosen and caused that linkage to bind up and this caused end of motor shaft to break off. If that had not happened I would probably still be using that first compressor. I didn’t know to check it though , it happened the 5th or 6th time I used the thing. So, I figured if your has that same linkage(I hear they are very common) I would pass this info on to you so you might avoid a similar type of failure. Freshening up that grease every now and then and insuring that little screw stays tight will hopefully make it last forever, or at least as long as you need it to last. Happy shooting!

Thank you so much for your input sir! I am going to do some more research about these compressors and I will take your advice. Def don’t want any malfunctions next year. I ended up going with a small orange tuxing compressor. You are right I feel like most of them are the same compressor just a different name. For the hand pump I went with the four uncles. I believe all those hand pumps are the same too just with different names. I need to try to find some videos on YouTube about maintaining these cheap compressors.

Also I think maybe with the hand pump I might have been letting the pump get too hot while I was pumping without giving it a break. That could be the reason why but still something going wrong within the first 3 times of use is just insane. Happy shooting friend

 

[.20calguy]

Hey brother is this a crappy compressor? My instincts are telling me yes cuz of the price but I figured I would ask here too thanks

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I've bought two the second to replace the first one when it failed. Mine are a model or two up overthat one though.

 

[DevilsLuck]

arent those filled to 4500psi?
would be BRUTAL to fill with a pump. IMO

I did it for quite some time with my Challenger Pro .30. It's a bit of a work out. But really more time consuming than anything else.

 

[rcrochte]

I've bought two the second to replace the first one when it failed. Mine are a model or two up overthat one though.

It might not last too long. I have a GX cs1-1. Just blew out my 1st one. It lasted almost 2 yrs. Yet I am constantly filling 3-4 different guns. Approximately 250.00. I think it is better than those "no-name" compressors. The review guy from Airgun detectives (can't remember his name) recommends it.

 

[30clipslinger]

It might not last too long. I have a GX cs1-1. Just blew out my 1st one. It lasted almost 2 yrs. Yet I am constantly filling 3-4 different guns. Approximately 250.00. I think it is better than those "no-name" compressors. The review guy from Airgun detectives (can't remember his name) recommends it.

Better than a yong heng?

 

[rcrochte]

Better than a yong heng?

Not sure. Haven't tried one. I have heard others recommend it though.