Thank you LGD for the glimpse further into the rabbit hole. It shows that there is much more for me to learn. I would imagine that forward inertia from hammer action affects precision and accuracy more while free hand shooting versus supported position. Would balance be more important over hammer action? Am I thinking along a correct line? Sorry for taking so long on responding. I have been buried with prep work on prototype data for the Shot Show. Thanks again for the feedback. BGuns, depending on what they're equipped with will have different balancing points. As well as different reciprocating masses (hammer). The less hammer mass, the less the gun is affect by its start and stop travel. Which is why real target pistols employ lightweight hammers and lightweight hammer springs. As well as heavier barrels sometimes. (and for other reasons) Position of the hammer in the gun (forward, rearward, height) all affect how the gun acts when fired. This is a relatively small affect. But the worst gun I have regarding this is my 2 pp800's. They have heavy rifle hammers, and where they are positioned in the gun seems to be rather disruptive. This can be compensated by balancing the gun out. Different weight optics positioned forward or rearward or different weight/length moderators. Here is what my 177 pp800 looks like in its most balanced config (also has a lightened hammer). The moderator is from huma and can be configured at various lengths. In 20mm or 40mm incriments. More or less weight on the end of the gun. Hold will also affect how a gun behaves when fired, and hold can compensate for any imbanace as well. But it's better to balance a gun first, and just use a normal hold.View attachment 321132
Is it the gun that is accurate? Or is it the sight? Or the ammo? Or is it the operator? Probably all components are the correct answer. I have seen an experienced machinist run a junk lathe and produce exceptional parts and vice versus with new machines and poor operators. Point to ponder: the best machines were made on machines that weren't the best. Sounds like we have a lot of really good operators on this site that are searching for better equipment to match their skills. I like to see what ideas and solutions they keep coming up with.I keep running across this thread. In reality I think about the only way to test the absolute accuracy would be to mount one of the pistols in something like a Ransom rest, a device where you mount a pistol or revolver to test for accuracy and give a precision zero. It has been years since I have seen anything about them but I think you remove the guns grips to secure thee gun in the rest, which can actually rotate, I think, under tension to compensate for recoil.
Even to say which is the most accurate would require having a specimen of every gun available to test, would be expensive and very time consuming.
Is it the gun that is accurate? Or is it the sight? Or the ammo? Or is it the operator? Probably all components are the correct answer. I have seen an experienced machinist run a junk lathe and produce exceptional parts and vice versus with new machines and poor operators. Point to ponder: the best machines were made on machines that weren't the best. Sounds like we have a lot of really good operators on this site that are searching for better equipment to match their skills. I like to see what ideas and solutions they keep coming up with.
For me it is trigger pull consistency that results in the best groups. Alot of that may have to do with trigger quality and tuning.I agree that the operator is the weakest link. Can you explain the shot cycle dynamics? I am working on a simpler sight for new shooters that builds their skills quicker, easier and at a lower cost. I have focused on and solved the issues of close range targeting for new shooters. I have very few high-priced pistols. I have focused on the low-cost entry level guns that new shooters would use. I have had good luc