Got a tropical depression in the area and the wild was blowing pretty good today. I got bored and wanted to shoot so I grabbed my M3 Impact .22 and sent a couple mag down range 65yards. Wind was mostly at my back and to the left about 15-20mph.
Holding for wind
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Those are great groups for 65 yards in a high wind. I'm guessing the center of your reticle was not on the paper.
I finished a 30 yard challenge targets late yesterday with my 177. The wind was so calm the flag on my wind flag was not moving. The lake behind my house was not smooth, however, so there was still a little wind. I only had to adjust a fraction of an inch on my point of aim but I could not see wind shifts so I had a little trouble. I find precisely placing shots in the wind to be a real challenge. (the target was a 195 so I did OK)
I finished a 30 yard challenge targets late yesterday with my 177. The wind was so calm the flag on my wind flag was not moving. The lake behind my house was not smooth, however, so there was still a little wind. I only had to adjust a fraction of an inch on my point of aim but I could not see wind shifts so I had a little trouble. I find precisely placing shots in the wind to be a real challenge. (the target was a 195 so I did OK)
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Thanks, the hold wasn't that extreme I'm thinking because of the wind direction (mostly behind me) and a little from my left.
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It took me awhile but I finally figured out that I get significant vertical from the "wind" coming out of my HVAC compressor. It sits about 2 or 3 yards in front of my muzzle and only maybe a yard to the side. When it cycles I have to adjust my POA so I've started shutting if off if I'm shooting a target. House doesn't heat up in half an hour. Wind from behind should have raised your point of impact something like the compressor does mine.
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I have just started to work the wind, and TBH it is now at a place where i feel like not doing it anymore.
CUZ to me it seem that 8 out of 10 times i hold, what i get on the paper is pretty much the opposite of what i was expecting to get.
But the 2 times it do actually work, it is immensely gratifying.
Mind you when i shoot 100 yards as i now mainly do, well the 3 wind flags between me and my target can be in 3 different directions, and then i start to get really confused.
Or other times when the 1 and 3 flags flutter horizontally to the right, and the middle one, just hang strait down.
CUZ to me it seem that 8 out of 10 times i hold, what i get on the paper is pretty much the opposite of what i was expecting to get.
But the 2 times it do actually work, it is immensely gratifying.
Mind you when i shoot 100 yards as i now mainly do, well the 3 wind flags between me and my target can be in 3 different directions, and then i start to get really confused.
Or other times when the 1 and 3 flags flutter horizontally to the right, and the middle one, just hang strait down.
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@coastal drifter Playing with and discovering holds for wind was fun to me shooting pellets with guns and scopes I'm really familiar with. Keep it up. Not bad looking groups at all.
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Great shooting on your part… The wind is constantly in pkay, so why not send in various conditions? You learn alot by shooting when its windy. Still days are the exception.
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Spent the weekend with my old pal, West wind. He will make two wind flags go west and the middle one will have to be unique and blow out of the east. Or my favorite, West and Down wind! Not only do the shots go to the left, they go You guessed it, down also! So groups are always varyingly left and varying down.
That is when I give up on steel and focus on cans. If done correctly, some soup cans can be more fun than a barrel of monkeys.
That is when I give up on steel and focus on cans. If done correctly, some soup cans can be more fun than a barrel of monkeys.
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Today i was sitting and hitting the corrugated metal plates at 130 and some yards, and it looked pretty damn good, so i figured i put up a few of my 2" targets down there and my camera.
Needless to say that recording will not get shared, CUZ aside for 1 lucky #1 shot on target number 3 it was generally just a mess and nothing like i saw a few minutes earlier.
Changed to 100 yards and suddenly hitting the 2" targets was much easier, it is incredible how much a measly 30 yards in the long end can mess things up.
Needless to say that recording will not get shared, CUZ aside for 1 lucky #1 shot on target number 3 it was generally just a mess and nothing like i saw a few minutes earlier.
Changed to 100 yards and suddenly hitting the 2" targets was much easier, it is incredible how much a measly 30 yards in the long end can mess things up.
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In the desert it is either dead calm or winds tumbling every direction. The contour of the ground makes a bunch of difference too.
It's no problem out to 30-35 yards unless it's really howling. But even light breezes can really affect you at ranges past 60.
I have a swinging target at 80 yards at the neck of a little canyon. That target can be still as a rock in calm winds and you get 3" of left windage. Set a target 30 feet away and zero error. In a stiff breeze you aim at least 6" to the right to hit it. Shift to the target 30 feet away and your windage decreases by 3". Both targets are exactly the same range.
There is another spot between 50-60 yards the pellet rises. No matter which direction its blowing from you are 1" higher at 60 than at 50! When it's calm the pellet lands where you expect it to.
Winds here can blow along the ground or above your head. A pellet arcing high can have more wind than one shot along level ground. Or vice versa. It just depends on the contour of the ground and where you are standing. It can be 30 mph from the west at the trigger and 20 mph from the south at the target but flowing up the hill to your left. Or getting drawn down the canyon to your right. And by the next shot that can change.
Wind affects your pellet more at the muzzle. A 1 degree deflection at the gun travels the entire distance of the shot and is compounded. A 1 degree deflection downrange casts the pellet a lot less overall. So the wind at the shooters position matters more than the wind at the farthest flag because it effects the shot along the entire flight.
It's not something a guy could guesstimate unless you are standing on flat unbroken ground and the wind is blowing steady for the entire path of the shot. Still you are going to toss one into the corn before you know where it's hitting.
I stand in the lee of a deep cut when it's windy. The first few yards downrange is calm. I get INCHES less deflection on long shots. I think it is because the wind doesn't start the error at the muzzle. It only affects the shot from 15 yards on out.
Tailwind seem harder to dope than crosswinds. It may not affect the shot as much in inches but it blows them in different directions. I can always aim a little right if I'm hitting left but you don't know how to correct if your shooting circles around the target.
Since it takes so little to drag a pellet sideways and even less to yaw it a little it's really hard to dope. Wind will also give you spiraling shots. It blows the shooter around and makes a steady shot harder too.
I just expect shots to be tough in the wind and celebrate near misses. The only thing you can do is try to learn from your misses and do the best you can.
It's no problem out to 30-35 yards unless it's really howling. But even light breezes can really affect you at ranges past 60.
I have a swinging target at 80 yards at the neck of a little canyon. That target can be still as a rock in calm winds and you get 3" of left windage. Set a target 30 feet away and zero error. In a stiff breeze you aim at least 6" to the right to hit it. Shift to the target 30 feet away and your windage decreases by 3". Both targets are exactly the same range.
There is another spot between 50-60 yards the pellet rises. No matter which direction its blowing from you are 1" higher at 60 than at 50! When it's calm the pellet lands where you expect it to.
Winds here can blow along the ground or above your head. A pellet arcing high can have more wind than one shot along level ground. Or vice versa. It just depends on the contour of the ground and where you are standing. It can be 30 mph from the west at the trigger and 20 mph from the south at the target but flowing up the hill to your left. Or getting drawn down the canyon to your right. And by the next shot that can change.
Wind affects your pellet more at the muzzle. A 1 degree deflection at the gun travels the entire distance of the shot and is compounded. A 1 degree deflection downrange casts the pellet a lot less overall. So the wind at the shooters position matters more than the wind at the farthest flag because it effects the shot along the entire flight.
It's not something a guy could guesstimate unless you are standing on flat unbroken ground and the wind is blowing steady for the entire path of the shot. Still you are going to toss one into the corn before you know where it's hitting.
I stand in the lee of a deep cut when it's windy. The first few yards downrange is calm. I get INCHES less deflection on long shots. I think it is because the wind doesn't start the error at the muzzle. It only affects the shot from 15 yards on out.
Tailwind seem harder to dope than crosswinds. It may not affect the shot as much in inches but it blows them in different directions. I can always aim a little right if I'm hitting left but you don't know how to correct if your shooting circles around the target.
Since it takes so little to drag a pellet sideways and even less to yaw it a little it's really hard to dope. Wind will also give you spiraling shots. It blows the shooter around and makes a steady shot harder too.
I just expect shots to be tough in the wind and celebrate near misses. The only thing you can do is try to learn from your misses and do the best you can.
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Yes.
But not the horse.
He has no name.
The alligator lizards in the air are named Eduardo and Miguel and they have a cousin named Chuy.
Don't mess with them. Those lizards shoot back.
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I was shooting at a frog last night at about 140 yards. With NV, I can really track a slugs flight at night if the slug is shiny enough. There was a 3-5mph wind and very interesting watching the flight path when I reviewed the video. I was dealing with one wind at my house and another down by the creek. Made me realize how lucky we can get when we strike targets at distance in the wind.
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