hollow point slugs for hunting ?

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Kevin23 said:
I am down to only two ammos in my every day hunting/pest arsenal, NSA hollow point slugs and JSB round nose diabolo pellets.

I use the slugs on any birds I am not going to eat, it kills them so much more reliably and ethically. Basically any body shots are instant kills with very little fly offs and suffering.

I also use the slugs on small game, with head shots, because they again are very forgiving. For instance if you hit a squirrel in the jaw with a round nose pellet, its going to run off and die weeks later from starvation. If you hit that squirrel with a slug in the jaw, its going to dump all of its energy into that bone and will absolutely die from the concussion force. I have never even tried a body shot on a squirrel with an air rifle, no idea what would happen. For pigeons if you are planning on eating them aim high and towards the back, basically right where he wing meets the body. You'll miss 95% of the meat and it will be dead before the slug exits the other side.

The other time I use slugs is when I have a sensitive background. Cattle, houses nearby, maybe an iffy backstop if pesting. The slugs will flatten and dump so much energy when you hit a bird that even when they do pass through they are not going to do any damage most of the time. With a round nose pellet, it will go right on through and into whatever is behind it.

The only time I use the JSB round nose pellets anymore is when I am shooting in an area where I need to be quiet. If you have shot a bird with a slug you know the sound it makes. It can be as loud as a .22lr going off. So times I need to be a little more quiet, I shoot the pellets when possible.
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NSA slugs .30cal
....47.2 grain....Edgun Leshiy 2...450mm barrel...920fps...Two kills in this video...watch the whole thing and be amazed at the destruction!! Shot was at about 30 yards give or take.
 
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Kevin23 said:
I am down to only two ammos in my every day hunting/pest arsenal, NSA hollow point slugs and JSB round nose diabolo pellets.

I use the slugs on any birds I am not going to eat, it kills them so much more reliably and ethically. Basically any body shots are instant kills with very little fly offs and suffering.

I also use the slugs on small game, with head shots, because they again are very forgiving. For instance if you hit a squirrel in the jaw with a round nose pellet, its going to run off and die weeks later from starvation. If you hit that squirrel with a slug in the jaw, its going to dump all of its energy into that bone and will absolutely die from the concussion force. I have never even tried a body shot on a squirrel with an air rifle, no idea what would happen. For pigeons if you are planning on eating them aim high and towards the back, basically right where he wing meets the body. You'll miss 95% of the meat and it will be dead before the slug exits the other side.

The other time I use slugs is when I have a sensitive background. Cattle, houses nearby, maybe an iffy backstop if pesting. The slugs will flatten and dump so much energy when you hit a bird that even when they do pass through they are not going to do any damage most of the time. With a round nose pellet, it will go right on through and into whatever is behind it.

The only time I use the JSB round nose pellets anymore is when I am shooting in an area where I need to be quiet. If you have shot a bird with a slug you know the sound it makes. It can be as loud as a .22lr going off. So times I need to be a little more quiet, I shoot the pellets when possible.
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This is very good info for me. I have a question on coyote hunting. I’m using. .25 cal gk1 and don’t know if I should use hollow point or solid slugs. Part of me thinks a solid slug would be better for head shots and hollow point for body (vital organ shots). I’m shooting within 100 yards, closer to 50. What weight slug would be most appropriate?
 
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Kneepit said:
This is very good info for me. I have a question on coyote hunting. I’m using. .25 cal gk1 and don’t know if I should use hollow point or solid slugs. Part of me thinks a solid slug would be better for head shots and hollow point for body (vital organ shots). I’m shooting within 100 yards, closer to 50. What weight slug would be most appropriate?
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You generally don’t get to make those choices. Your gun does. If your gun will only shoot a 30 grain hollow point accurately, that’s what you use. If it only shoots a 41 grain solid, then that’s what you use. Accuracy is your first hurdle.
 
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Kneepit said:
This is very good info for me. I have a question on coyote hunting. I’m using. .25 cal gk1 and don’t know if I should use hollow point or solid slugs. Part of me thinks a solid slug would be better for head shots and hollow point for body (vital organ shots). I’m shooting within 100 yards, closer to 50. What weight slug would be most appropriate?
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t i use boat tail flat nose in a 357 cal and a boat tail semi flat nose in a 30 cal for coyotes. I think the flat nose in some ways do just as much or more damage and its very effective with head and lung shots, flatter shots when compared to HP. 308 on top and 357 on the bottom.

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357cal said:
t i use boat tail flat nose in a 357 cal and a boat tail semi flat nose in a 30 cal for coyotes. I think the flat nose in some ways do just as much or more damage and its very effective with head and lung shots, flatter shots when compared to HP. 308 on top and 357 on the bottom.

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I was looking at those slugs for my GK1 .25cal and not sure if I’d have enough power to drive the boat tail or flat bottom. AVS recommends dish bottom for low, mid powered PCP. In the Airgun world I’d consider the GK1 to be on the low end of high power or top of midpower at 1019fps and up to 80fpe. I’m in a neighborhood with too many street coyotes so I need something that will dump all of its energy quickly and be a clean kill…. Trying for only head shots.
 
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Kneepit said:
I was looking at those slugs for my GK1 .25cal and not sure if I’d have enough power to drive the boat tail or flat bottom. AVS recommends dish bottom for low, mid powered PCP. In the Airgun world I’d consider the GK1 to be on the low end of high power or top of midpower at 1019fps and up to 80fpe. I’m in a neighborhood with too many street coyotes so I need something that will dump all of its energy quickly and be a clean kill…. Trying for only head shots.
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those in the pic are 150gr
 
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JungleShooter said:
Kevin,

Gracias por tus consejos sobre los rebotes de hormigón/grava y los techos de hojalata. Sí, eso es importante y fácil de olvidar.👍🏼



Parece que las FX 22 del calibre 22 se expanden muy bien. ¡Me alegra que la expansión vaya acompañada del sonido más fuerte !😄

Ahora, me encantaría escuchar más sobre el calibre .22 NSA 17.5 , porque las pruebas de expansión que he visto hasta ahora no son tan sorprendentes ( ⭐ aunque el NSA 17.5 es excelente para reducir la deriva del viento, la retención de energía en objetivos lejanos y aumentar mi alcance a quemarropa al aplanar la trayectoria 😊).

Adjuntaré dos resultados de pruebas a continuación.



¿Alguien más tiene resultados de pruebas de expansión NSA 17.5 en juegos o gel balístico?

Matías





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View attachment 190262Esas balas fx si que expanden, lastima en en mi air venturi no funcionan, entran demasiado apretadas en el cañon y salen muy lentas
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