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It seems like 75% of the first page in the PCP's section is always about FX guns in some way or another. It seems to have been like this for a while. I wonder if FX is really taking that much of the market share of PCP's or if it's just a coincidence or something else at play. The second most discussed seems to be the Vulcan's and and BSA's and I myself am admittedly intrigued by the Vulcan's and may try one eventually.

I'm not complaining, I love my Royale, it was just a curiosity. If they are selling that many guns, the other manufacturers must be feeling at least some kind of squeeze. I feel like I rarely see people discussing Daystate or even less expensive guns like the Marauder or Airforce.

Thoughts?
 
I've noticed it too! :) It's not overly surprising when you think about what they've done in recent times. The Wildcat was a home run for them. Then, the Impact anticipation. Then, the first few Impacts came out. Admittedly, I personally started the pot stirring on that one! :) Then the Impact release and peoples experiences with them (good and bad). The demand is much greater than the supply right now. So, every time a shipment arrives a few more threads pop up. 
MY first thought was that FX's are just that popular. 
Secondly, FX chat is welcomed on this forum and there's a lot of good advise for people. 
Due to the design of this forum, old topics (like my own for example) are brought right back to the front page when someone responds to them which is something I, personally, like a lot. It helps to avoid good, informative, topics or discussions vanishing into the "nether regions" where they can be difficult to find. 
Tom

 
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"Alan"Yes, this is true. But.... Too much of the palaver centers around the trigger/bolt issue which should not come up in an airgun which sells for over $1,500. 

One of my friends has a Wildcat he's in love with, and it is a decent airgun. Unfortunately, he too has had issues with the aforementioned—twice!
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Alan, I agree some of the threads are about issues. I counted and of the 40 total threads in the first 2 pages, 22 of them were about FX guns and of those, only 8 were concerning issues. Even taking the 8 "problem threads" out, FX still has a commanding lead above other manufacturers for most threads.

Neil, I'm also on board with your way of thinking. Newer concepts with some of these guns, I'll leave it to others to be the early adopters. Some guns I'd likely not have an issues trying though. I think the FX Streamline coming up isn't such an exotic stretch that it would be a risky gun to buy right away.
 
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"Tominco"I've noticed it too! :) It's not overly surprising when you think about what they've done in recent times. The Wildcat was a home run for them. Then, the Impact anticipation. Then, the first few Impacts came out. Admittedly, I personally started the pot stirring on that one! :) Then the Impact release and peoples experiences with them (good and bad). The demand is much greater than the supply right now. So, every time a shipment arrives a few more threads pop up. 
MY first thought was that FX's are just that popular. 
Secondly, FX chat is welcomed on this forum and there's a lot of good advise for people. 
Due to the design of this forum, old topics (like my own for example) are brought right back to the front page when someone responds to them which is something I, personally, like a lot. It helps to avoid good, informative, topics or discussions vanishing into the "nether regions" where they can be difficult to find. 
Tom

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I agree, it seems as though there may be some discouragement on other forums regarding the FX line. Also, I think you're right that this is a much better format for a forum, keeping the pertinent and informative threads at the top so that they don't get drowned out by the noise.
 
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Deservedly or not, I think there's a certain prestige that goes along with FX, more so than any other brand except maybe Daystate or Air Arms. FX is probably the most visible brand in the US, thanks to AoA being their distributor. Competitors that may be just as good have to work harder to get attention, which ends up being good for the consumer. And there's always a danger of the leading manufacturer and/or distributor resting on their laurels and getting sloppy, which seems to have happened with the Impact.
 
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I think a lot of it is that each forum has info kinda around its main sponsor. TAG is a great place for AirForce and other Bullpup....Yellow is good for the guns sold by Pyramid Air, and here is kinda the go toforumfor FX with AoA as it's biggest sponsor.It's not a bad thing at all, just each has its own niche . I think GTA would-be great except itslaidout SO poorly that it's a hassle to Navigate.
Truth be told I think most serious Airgun addicts browse all of the forums
 
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It's probably not good for the industry in general that FX is dominating the way they are. Daystate stumbled badly with their bullpups going electronic. I feel for those who bought into that mess because those folks are going to be SO out in the cold very quickly. I would not be surprised if heads rolled at Daystate ... if they stay afloat.

Daystate has to turn around real fast if they are ever going to catch up. If I was advising the big boys I'd be telling them loudly, drop half your models and concentrate on quality control and customer service. Get rid of the dead wood. Put longer guarantees on your products.

I'm as new as new can be to this game and it took me about two weeks of reading this forum and most of the top you tubers to plainly see that 1. Bullpups and clean lined carbines are and will dominate. 2. FX was the way to go for a new airgun person that wanted to have a reliable gun. 3. The internet is the life's blood of the air gun world and airgunnation.com is it's central nervous system. 
 
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"BRS"Nueces
1 - Nope
2 - Many, many reliable alternatives to the FX brand are freely available
3 - OMG!!!! What did we do before ?
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Just talking about today. The present slice of reality we now see. Granted my view of what's what is greatly dependent on the conversations on this forum and you tube. I'm just totaling up a consensus of opinion as reflected here and around the web. Cases in point: Find me a review of a Vulcan by any of the known and respected air gun gods. Find me a thread with significant participation regarding a Daystate electronic gun.
 
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Fx is the king right now they seem to know what the consumer wants. I didn't even consider Daystate because of the electronics. I didn't see a clear advantage to the electronics. It is very hard to get a board for your gun if it goes out but an Oring is not as big of a problem. When considering the Vulcan and the Impact the position of the lever was a big deal breaker over the Vulcan.
 
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"ashes5"Fx is the king right now they seem to know what the consumer wants. I didn't even consider Daystate because of the electronics. I didn't see a clear advantage to the electronics. It is very hard to get a board for your gun if it goes out but an Oring is not as big of a problem. When considering the Vulcan and the Impact the position of the lever was a big deal breaker over the Vulcan.
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I don't know how Daystate is organized but if it was a publicly held company and I was a major stock holder I would be demanding most of the top tier management be cashiered. If somebody gave me an electronic Daystate I'd immediately try to get rid of it ... if I even could.

I know they have their fans but I think the big walnut and synthetic old school designs are quickly going by the wayside as well. That new wood carbine coming out from Ataman is sweet. ( I think Giles shows it.) Hope it comes to the US.
 
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Daystate is Italian owned, for some years now. This might explain why they are slower to keep up on certain trends. Italy isn't known for its ability to change and the time and processes involved getting word to the English factories surely add more to any delays. I would say though my Wolverine was far more thought out and great care taken to have a product made right the first time. However, FX is in alot of boards here as already stated due to the poor materials of the WildCat's trigger. NOW they fix it but all previous owners, myself included, are stuck with rebuilding it ourselves.
 
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Overall I think this forum has been pretty balanced as far as FX goes. Lots of good info on a couple of models. If you were on the fence about buying say, the Impact there's a good chance your still on the fence. Seems like we've seen the good and bad and hopefully one day it'll be all good. Same can be said for pretty much all new guns. But no doubt, if it's FX info your looking for this is the place. I have the FX owners forum saved on my desktop but there hasn't been anything posted there since the 1970's lol. This is no doubt my favorite forum.
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Anyone who thinks Datstate doesn't have their crap together simply has not enjoyed what they produce. My ELECTRONIC AirWolf is Airgun nirvana, period. My Cricket is awesome as well. Oh and BTW my Wildcat has finally loosened up its regulator and is a tac driver too. I love them all, and some may want to re-visit why FX has such delays. They are a small company as well, who just happens to have a broad product line compared to their competetors. Way more broad than Kaliber and broader than Daystate.
 
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I think electronic guns have great potential to obtain high precision very cheaply. I don't know if any of them currently do this, but imagine an unregulated gun that adjusts the hammer strike based on the reservoir pressure. Just dial in any desired muzzle energy and let the computer do the rest.

What we need is an electronic gun built from standard off-the-shelf parts, running open source software...
 
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Ted started this show and was involved with FX at the time and continues to promote their products. Accordingly, there is a lot of FX traffic here. It also dosent hurt that FX is a site sponsor as is Crosman. Hatsan is a major air gun producer but is largely ignored here even though they produce a large line of quality and affordable rifles. Not a site sponsor and Ted never tested a single one that I know of. I don't own an FX but am seriously considering the yet to be released Streamline. That said this place is FX fanboy central.
 
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"Dan25"Ted started this show and was involved with FX at the time and continues to promote their products. Accordingly, there is a lot of FX traffic here. It also dosent hurt that FX is a site sponsor as is Crosman. Hatsan is a major air gun producer but is largely ignored here even though they produce a large line of quality and affordable rifles. Not a site sponsor and Ted never tested a single one that I know of. I don't own an FX but am seriously considering the yet to be released Streamline. That said this place is FX fanboy central.
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Fan boys we may be but I in no way bought an FX gun out of fan boy ism. I just read up, watched all the recent videos from the top ten reviewers looked at some guns in the wood, plastic and steel and saw a plain as plain can be that FX was ahead of the game. PLUS who had a service site I could trust and rely on had a LOT to do with why I chose FX. Yeah Daystate has the same place but they are not making a gun at present I want anything really to do with. Which is funny cause halfway through this process I was convinced I was gonna buy a Wolverine B. Then I came to my senses. Too big, too old school design.
 
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