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When sighting in from your shooting position internal to your home, Don't forget to open the window.:cry::cry::cry:
Point blank, .22 P-rod 697 FPS with JSB Heavy Diabolo 15.89 gr. The long guns hang outside, but the P-rod with shoulder stock and DFL Tanto don't reach. It didn't make it through the second pane. I should send this in to Arcadia Windows.
 
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Max Sand said:
View attachment 524415When sighting in from your shooting position internal to your home, Don't forget to open the window.:cry::cry::cry:
Point blank, .22 P-rod 697 FPS with JSB Heavy Diabolo 15.89 gr. The long guns hang outside, but the P-rod with shoulder stock and DFL Tanto don't reach. It didn't make it through the second pane. I should send this in to Pella Windows.
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Your lucky it's that style window for ease of removing the pane. You're unlucky it's a double pane.... I think, but you could have new glass in the frame and reinstall it yourself for under a couple hundred bucks. (i recently did a sliding door because weedwacker things). Hopefully winter isnt too bad, if it is id just put some clear packing tape over the damage till warmer weather.

Quietly this was hilarious to me, a friend just did this to the hatch on the vehicle he takes hunting with a 45 ft lb 25cal
 
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Dr. Kralenstein said:
My garage storm door is missing the top pane and also has several dents and holes from shooting up at birds and not compensating for barrel length/scope height.

I tried to pass it off as storm damage to insurance when they fixed the roof, but they were having none of it!
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Throw a baseball or rock through it. Darn Kids!
 
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6gun said:
Your lucky it's that style window for ease of removing the pane. You're unlucky it's a double pane.... I think, but you could have new glass in the frame and reinstall it yourself for under a couple hundred bucks. (i recently did a sliding door because weedwacker things). Hopefully winter isnt too bad, if it is id just put some clear packing tape over the damage till warmer weather.

Quietly this was hilarious to me, a friend just did this to the hatch on the vehicle he takes hunting with a 45 ft lb 25cal
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I lifted it out earlier. It may be covered by the warranty. I remember the installers telling me that they had just done a bunch in a home where the guy flipped out and shot up the house with a handgun. He was in custody, but the windows got done! LOL
 
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6gun said:
Your lucky it's that style window for ease of removing the pane. You're unlucky it's a double pane.... I think, but you could have new glass in the frame and reinstall it yourself for under a couple hundred bucks. (i recently did a sliding door because weedwacker things). Hopefully winter isnt too bad, if it is id just put some clear packing tape over the damage till warmer weather.

Quietly this was hilarious to me, a friend just did this to the hatch on the vehicle he takes hunting with a 45 ft lb 25cal
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aren’t some double pane windows purged with argon or some other noble gas?
 
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GeneT said:
Put a sticker on the window, and it'll never happen again. One of those "magnetic" stickers works and is easily removed if need be.

GsT
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A friend suggested that too. I was in a hurry and it was night. I can't leave the light on or it will reflect in the scope. I may put an orange bullseye sticker on it.
 
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daddypaddy said:
aren’t some double pane windows purged with argon or some other noble gas?
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Yes. I got lucky. The manufacturer is Arcadia and they are within 15 minutes from me. They said to bring it next Tuesday at 9am and it will be completely rebuilt, sealed, purged, and warranted for $75 with noon pick up. Hooray!
 
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dv8eod said:
I think I'd be more concerned with the P-rod only going through one pane at point blank range. Are you SURE it's doing 697fps? :unsure:;)
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I am and yes I did the tune and have a chrono. At first I thought it went through both, but that is just a mark and the flattened pellet is between the panes. Is there a chance that this happened because the moderator was up against the glass? My point blank meant half inch or less.
 
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That is a good question and one I am not too sure I can answer.
Interesting that it dumped all of its energy right there and didn't have enough to get through the second pane.
Before taking the window in for repair, I would be tempted to repeat what happened the first time and see if I got the same result. It's already broken.
The moderator was against the glass, but the muzzle was the length of the mod away. The pellet traveled that distance to the window. Only thing I can come up with, and I am just fishing here, is that the mod close to the glass created some back pressure that slowed the pellet down.
I need to think on it some more.....
 
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Probably 15 years ago somebody did some fairly scientific testing of lead pellets on glass. Can't remember now if it was the old "yellow" or the green 54 Crosman-specific forum.

What I vaguely remember from that was that it took a surprising amount of fpe from a lead pellet to break glass. Glass is a strange material, possing qualities of both a liquid and a solid.

Can't remember if it came from that or elsewhere but for some reason the concept of a bb needing much less fpe than a lead pellet to break glass stands out to me.
 
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dv8eod said:
That is a good question and one I am not too sure I can answer.
Interesting that it dumped all of its energy right there and didn't have enough to get through the second pane.
Before taking the window in for repair, I would be tempted to repeat what happened the first time and see if I got the same result. It's already broken.
The moderator was against the glass, but the muzzle was the length of the mod away. The pellet traveled that distance to the window. Only thing I can come up with, and I am just fishing here, is that the mod close to the glass created some back pressure that slowed the pellet down.
I need to think on it some more.....
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It also has the short Donny FL adapter/spacer for the Tanto. I will ask them what type of "magic" glass they are using or if their frame and gas filled void creates some sort of extra tension on the window. Either way, I am happy with the performance of the glass, but disappointed that a .22 cal pellet gun is not an intergalactic planet destroyer. MORE POWER PLEASE!
 
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I would have expected much more damage, from your heavy 15.89 pellet, traveling almost 700 FPS to be honest.

My truck's clear, plastic headlight assemblies were 15 or 20 years old, and became old and "cloudy".
After several unsucsessful polishing attempts, I replaced both of them with brand new headlight assemblies.
I removed the glass light bulbs, and proceeded to use the old assemblies, as airgun targets.

I was absolutely amazed by the holes generated by a .22 air rifle, in plastic.
The holes were perfectly round, with no cracks or breaks in the thick, brittle plastic.
It looked as if I drilled holes with a sharp drill bit.
Strange, and not at all what I had expected.

I agree with dv8oed....
I would use this opportunity, to experiment further, with slow motion video, and further testing!
Turn lemons, into lemonade!
 
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