How can I know that there is not a MIL/MOA mismatch between the reticle and the adjuster before buying?

[tegridy]

Hi all,

I hope you're doing well.
This is basically a follow-up post to the one I made last night.

I think I found a scope I like for my Marauder.

I think the only thing I need to make sure is that it does not have the MIL/MOA mismatch that I often see mentioned in this forum.

How can I tell? The one I am looking at is in the photo attached here. I'm going to be honest, one of the reasons I am debating on Amazon is because I can return it if I don't like it.

I also am curious if you personally prefer MIL or MOA for hunting small and upland game.

Thank you very much!

 

[dens228]

What do you mean by "mismatch"??

 

[Bigragu]

If the turret says 1/4” at a 100 yards it’s an MOA turret.
I like to always look at the reticle diagram that lays out the meanings of the hash marks, their dimensional values, before I buy a scope. If you’re dead set on that scope google it to see who provides the diagram of the reticle. If from hash mark to hash mark it says 1 MOA(as an example) then that’s an MOA reticle.

I think you’re possibly getting confused with BDC(bullet drop compensating) dots on a reticle, possibly? Those types are typically designated for the common powder burner hunting round so at say 200 yards it’s the 3rd dot down. There’s nothing wrong with using that for a airgun scope, but if you intend to use those BDC dots just know you’re gonna have to put in some time knowing what each dot will represent for a particular pellet, pellet speed, and pellet weight. A dope card will be needed.

Me personally I prefer MOA.

 

[beerthief]

Hi all,

I hope you're doing well.
This is basically a follow-up post to the one I made last night.

I think I found a scope I like for my Marauder.

I think the only thing I need to make sure is that it does not have the MIL/MOA mismatch that I often see mentioned in this forum.

How can I tell? The one I am looking at is in the photo attached here. I'm going to be honest, one of the reasons I am debating on Amazon is because I can return it if I don't like it.

I also am curious if you personally prefer MIL or MOA for hunting small and upland game.

Thank you very much!

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MOA , my choice ! and in this add moa is $100 less , wonder why ?

 

[Tumblinginflight]

You are very unlikely to encounter a “mismatched” scope nowadays. In fact, there are very few in existence that are “mismatched”. There have been some optics with MOA turrets and a mil reticle that folks incorrectly assume are mismatched, but that stems from confusing terminology. Mil in that context is for milling, or the practice of using a graduated reticle to range estimate and hold off, not milliradian, the angular measurement.

Having read this and your other post however, I would caution you against getting a first focal plane scope, from an unknown brand, with a chunky 34mm main tube until you have digested the suggestions of others and done a bit more research. My $.02, and worth what you paid, perhaps.

 

[tegridy]

You are very unlikely to encounter a “mismatched” scope nowadays. In fact, there are very few in existence that are “mismatched”. There have been some optics with MOA turrets and a mil reticle that folks incorrectly assume are mismatched, but that stems from confusing terminology. Mil in that context is for milling, or the practice of using a graduated reticle to range estimate and hold off, not milliradian, the angular measurement.

Having read this and your other post however, I would caution you against getting a first focal plane scope, from an unknown brand, with a chunky 34mm main tube until you have digested the suggestions of others and done a bit more research. My $.02, and worth what you paid, perhaps.

great, thank you for your response.

 

[tegridy]

MOA , my choice ! and in this add moa is $100 less , wonder why ?

I noticed that too! I mean, to be fair, they do have a $70 coupon for the mil. so really the MOA is $30 less. Still though.

I'll take a $70 coupon on the $200 MOA though - that will make the decision easier xD

 

[jasperjet]

I just bought a leupold mark 4 4-14 that has moa turret and their tmoa recticle in mils. I just use the center cross hair and dial the 1/4 moa amount . If you sight it in and then see where it hit with the mil recticle you may be able to use the sub stensions in the scope without dialing...but is not for everybody. moa or mil doesnt matter its which ever you get used to.

 

[Airgun-hobbyist]

I use both mil and moa scopes. As long as the turret matches the reticle then it is simply a measuring system with graduated clicks.

As far as a big 34mm tube goes, that Marauder is going to be a big top-heavy gun. I'd seriously look into a smaller, lighter scope with the 30mm tube. There's a lot of great quality options out there with that tube size. Also, that is a lot of lower magnification for a medium power and range pellet shooter unless you are only shooting targets off a benchrest.