How much quieter are the QE versions of the Hatsan bt65?

I know you been looking and asking a lot about PCPs,...but Harsan is one brand I sure would stay away from.
I understand what you mean about Hatsan but here in Greece (we are next to Turkey) The Hatsans are the same price or even cheaper then the US stores... All the other airguns are overpiced here about 200$ to 300$...

The Umarex Gauntlet 1 (the black one) for example here costs around 550-600$ almost double the price... I was thinking of buying a Gauntlet btw but just the thought that I am paying double price made me change my mind...

If I order cheaper from outside the EU the customs will pretty much double the price again so no point to order from US. Thats why I am sticking to Hatsan... I will buy a Hatsan buy extra orings and mags and hope I get lucky that is my plan for now...
 
The QE versions are definitely quieter than without the QE shroud but still not QUIET, EVER. When I had my BT65's in .25 & .30 (Carnivore) I used a Donny FL Ronin that attached to the SHROUD, not the BARREL. This is an important distinction. The Donny directly on the barrel was no more quiet than the QE shroud. When I got a shroud adapter & attached the Donny to it, it was way more efficient. Not only in quieting down the bark but my gun shot more accurately! Yes, it made it a lot longer but accomplished MORE than I expected it to do. I no longer have those guns but thought I'd relate that experience.
 
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