How tough is it to shoot coyotes in the dark?

@Max115 I’m definitely interested in the advantages of posting in an elevated position for yotes. I have been wondering for a while if human scent would remain above they ground level. I recall reading that temps and humidity come into play here. I heard some deer hunters talking about how human scent can drop (from a tree-stand), but I don’t recall the specifics.
 
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Scent control starts at your house when you’re still naked. Then everything that touches your body afterwards. That includes the vehicle you drive to your hunting spot. Predators up to big game is where scent control and playing the wind counts big time. Or you can rely on luck. Plenty of pictures get taken every year of guys who got lucky. I have a washing machine and dryer that are hunting clothes specific. That loft will help immensely with scent control. But I still wouldn’t be taking a ladies shower using perfume products. Or after shower perfume products on my armpits. If you don’t use proper unscented products to wash your cloths then a method of neutralizing scent afterwards, hang your designated hunting cloths outside all the time. Then store them in a container or bag until you reach your destination. Then get dressed. You aren’t shooting mice and rats anymore..
 
Ya I thought so too. Just have to clean up all the birds droppings and other things before hand. And of course I have to do some test shots as I haven't done any angle shots like that before.

You may want to wear a mask if there are a lot of dry bird droppings when you clean up the area (histoplasmosis). If the droppings are dry the spores easily become airborne.
 
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When shooting out of that loft, keep in mind that elevated shots (either downward or upward) need special attention to proper gun or bow cant. Elevated shots will show whether or not there is proper scope to barrel alignment, oftentimes in an exaggerated way. Misaligned scopes will show up as either missing the mark to the left or right. Having a scope bubble level is ideal.

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Another thought to keep in mind on that elevated loft position is thermal wind changes. "Thermals occur when the ambient temperature starts to change, typically in the morning and the evening. In the morning, if the sun is out and warming up the ground, the air will rise (hot air is less dense than cold air). In the evening as the sun dips behind the trees, the higher air starts to cool and sink." A wind indicator such as flour or unscented talcum powder puffed out of a small squeeze bottle works great.
 
Thank you all for chiming in again, much appreciated with your advices and suggestions.

I went back there this afternoon to set up in the loft. Yes there were lots of droppings and such. Luckily there are sheets of clean plywood leaning against the walls. I placed a couple of sheets on the floor about 4 feet away from the drop-off facing the field. I set up my hunting lazy chair which is much more comfortable and low profile (no squeaks) and my DIY tripod that I can angle down towards the field.

My target range for the rat bait is 25 yards from my chair. The back fence is 38 yards where they like to enter from. I placed my trail cam with new batteries right on the fence facing me directly but angle down to the ground. My idea is to use it as an indicator and lights up the IR lights when it detects motion. If that works, then I don't need to constantly scan the area with my night vision scope.

The opening of the loft is like 8 feet wide so my field of view is tremendous and I should have no problem spotting the coyotes coming in at 180 degree.

I zero checked my Impact MK2 shooting the new H&N Gen 2 27gr slugs (51 ft.lb). Since I never shot from high up before, I was very surprised to see the POI was lower by an inch or more. I dialled my Helix scope by 5 clicks and I was on the bullseye. I also placed a few spinners between 20 - 35 yards and I was able to hit the half inch target without adjusting the aim. Just kept it at the new 25 yards zero. If the coyotes stay within the bait station area, then I should not need to worry about doing hold over or hold under for as long as I don't shoot them closer than 20 yards.

So I am very excited for tonight's hunt. I am resting now at home and I will be back there around 8pm to shoot and collect rats for bait. Then I am going to pull an all nighter or until I get one before I quit, lol.

Attached are some pictures with my hunting space. Wish me luck and thank you all for all the good suggestions. I will definitely wear a mask tonight.

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Coyotes can be hard or easy. Maybe it depends on how lazy and hungry they are. To shoot them in the dark I'd recommend avoiding it unless you take a body shot. They move around a lot at times. Sometimes never still.

Most I shoot come at random times. Hard to pattern.

I recommend night vision. Unless they are normalized to white light.

At some locations I use thermal monocular before I even turn on my scope

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One more thing. I found that attaching the IR light to the rifle is when I get busted. If I think the situation dictates... I lay the IR light on the ground (or something similar) when I can get away with it. They see the red light when the gun moves. But that is a big trade off. Animal needs to be real close for that tactic
 
@sasquatch. Yes I do have a NV unit Pard007S on my Helix Element scope. Because my scope is 6-24x, the field of view is very narrow and difficult to see the open area unless they are in my view. I am hoping that they wouldn't see my IR light. I might not even need it if my trail cam activated by movement then my NV will pick up the lights from the trail cam. Trial and error I guess. Will see if I get lucky tonight although it is very windy and some rain right now.
 
Good luck Alex! I can't think of anything to add. Everyone's covered it, scent is what busted you. You know they won't stay still long, even at the bait. I bought an ICOtec 320, should be here Tuesday. I left my Foxpro at home. LOL. I'm going to try calling when it gets here. I've only heard them one night so far. I know you are patient, you will PREVAIL!
 
For those who have followed and watched my videos will know that I have began to shoot rats and left the bodies for coyotes to feed in hopes to ambush them.

Here is a writeup from the last couple of nights that I would like to share with you if you are interested to know what happened in the process.

I received a text from the farmer telling me that the coyotes are back and they had destroyed 5 of 8 chickens that were kept in a large outdoor fenced cage. 3 or 4 coyotes were digging the ground to gain access in broad daylight according to the owner. So I was asked to lend a hand to dispatch the coyotes.

My last attempt at a coyote at this location was 11 months ago where I missed (Coyote#4 video) the shot. So I was eager and excited to give it another go again.

I went there Thursday night for a quick set up of my blind inside an open barn facing the field where I bait them before. I shot a few rats with my HW100 and Hades pellets, but only collected 3 and left them for bait. Set up my trail cam and then went home.

So I was very excited to return Friday night to check on my trail cam as the three dead rats were gone. I opened the trail cam to retrieve the memory card and found out the batteries were dead. Damn...Did it even record anything? 1st sign of negativity. I turned on my laptop and inserted the memory card. My laptop battery was dead. WTF. 2nd sign of negativity. This was not going well. So I had no idea when and if the coyotes had came around to take the rats.

I wasn't happy with myself of not being prepared with back up batteries for my trail cam and of course charging my laptop beforehand. Things were not going smoothly and I just had a bad feeling that my hunt for the coyotes would not be a positive one.

So I gave up and just set up with my HW100T to shoot some rats so I can gather the bodies and leave them for bait. By now it was already 8:30pm. Luckily rats were coming out in the open and I was able to tag 11 rats and collected 7 big rats. 4 ran off into the holes and area where I couldn't access them.

By 9:35pm I heard coyotes howling in the area so I quickly packed up my gear, left the bait in the field where I had previously ranged out 25 yards from the blind. I moved my vehicle out of the way and settled inside the blind with my FX Impact MK2 with the Pard007S night vision clip on scope. My ammo of choice was the H&N 27gr Gen 2 slugs.

I had set up my shooting table and chair inside the blind facing the field thru one of the windows. Hot tea in my thermos and some energy bars in my pockets. I was ready to grind out for at least 3 or 4 hours until I see some action.

So the wait begins... An hour past and nothing. Then I saw something moving low on the ground. I quickly turned on my Pard007S and saw a rabbit about 15 yards in front of me. I filmed it for a bit, thought about tapping it, but rabbits are not on my list to pest at this location.

If anyone has done night time coyote hunt in the cold with an airgun will understand how tough it is to sit there in the dark, afraid to move around too much with fear of making too much noise. When you are in the dead of the night, every little movement you make like shifting in the seat or leaning of the table get amplified 120 percent. I never realized how my table squeak at the joints and how noisy the seat cushion becomes when I move my butt. Very stressful as I didn't want to make any unnecessary noise to alert the coyotes if they happen to come around. On top of that, cold and fatigue creeped in fast and furious, a feeling I have had and experience in the past with coyote hunts.

Another problem I faced was the inability of my eyes to see in the dark without using any night vision gear. As you may have known, you get temporary blindness every time you look thru the lens so I tried not to scan the area too much with the NV. I would just sit there quietly (trying to) and stared out the small window into the field hoping to spot some movements. Anyone who says hunting in the dark is easy with NV scope is full of crap.

So the clock ticks on. At 11pm, I saw a white figure moving thru the fence into the open field. OMG, a coyote had finally appeared. I quickly and quietly got into position, leaning over my Impact. One finger pressing the external IR with my left hand and power on my Pard007S with my right index finger. With the narrow FOV I finally located the coyote to my left. I pressed record and chambered a slug, ready to engage. By now my heart rate had spiked into overdrive and I thought I was having a heart attack.

I took one quick breath and had my cross hair on the forehead of the coyote. At that moment two things came into my mind. Should I squeeze off the shot now or should I wait till the coyote moves to the baits? I paused and hoped that it will go to the baits and may be the other coyotes would show up as well. I had 7 fat rats there for them to feed and I should have better chances of getting a good shot off. So I thought....

When I had the coyote in my scope view, it was sniffing the ground 2 or 3 feet near the bait. So I positioned my crosshair on the pile of rats and waited and waited... Nothing came into view and before I could say SH!T, the coyote was gone and didn't' return.

Another hour had passed and still no sign of any coyotes. I guess they had spotted my hideout and knew I was in the area. That was the end of this hunt. I reviewed the clip at home and the coyote was only in the footage for less than 6 seconds. Looking closely at the timeline, I couldn't have squeezed off a shot anyway.

I reviewed the trail cam footage from previous night and there were three coyotes in the clip with the dominant one (female) eating all three rats by herself while the other two coyotes stood by. Unfortunately I didn't have spare batteries for my trail cam so I am not able to film the 7 rats that I left there.

Yup, it will be tough to sleep tonight. Damn it is 3:19am now as I am typing this last sentence. Hopefully I will get these coyotes one day soon.

Thanks for reading.
There's something to learn from the Ugly at the movie "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly":

"When you have to shoot, shoot !!! .... Do not talk".

If you have the chance to make a good shot do not wait for a better one. Just shoot !!!
 
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Well, it wasn't meant to happen last night. I started at 7:30pm and I didn't quit till 2:30am... It was the worst night to pick to do this coyote hunt because it was windy as hell and cold as Eskimo's ass. I began the night with lots of enthusiasm and excitement with the new shooting spot up high from the loft. I guess I was too eager to succeed and ended up failing miserably tonight. Wind was howling all day and continued into the night.

Upon my arrival, I quickly scanned the area for rats to use as bait. The Hades found two rats at 21 yards and that was all I could get as the rats were not coming out with the storm Stirling in the horizon. Realizing I wasn't going to get anymore rats, I turned on the trail cam and placed these bodies at the bait station 25 yards from my elevated shooting spot. My Impact, lazy chair and tripod was already up on the loft so I brought only my backpack filled with snacks and hot coffee. And I brought a blanket as well just in case. Well, I wished I would have brought a thick wool blanket or better yet, a heating blanket as I soon found out I needed the latter.

Wind was gusting thru the opening and blowing to my face as I settled into my chair. My first thought was, "this is great as the coyotes would not be able to smell my scent". Ya, the cold gusting wind didn't stop for 6-1/2 hours straight with increasing speed and coldness to boot. But I was too excited and didn't care about the strong wind blowing at my face in the first hour of sitting there. My eyes were glued to the field below, scanning left to right and anticipation of spotting a coyote.

An hour gone by and nothing happened. I was being patience and optimistic that the coyotes would come soon or later. I was planning to stay as long as it takes to get my chance at a coyote.

Second hour gone by and still nothing but howling wind getting stronger and stronger. Roof tins were flapping loudly and some of the sidings of the barn were loose and banging with each onslaught of the wind. It wasn't a quiet night. By now I was feeling the cold and being uncomfortable as my adrenaline has subsided somewhat with no sign of any coyotes. My eyes continued to monitor the trail cam mounted on the fence pole 38 yards in front of me. I tried to encourage myself and prey that any moment those IR red lights would come on. Nothing...

Coming up to 11pm and I got a bit excited again as that was the time the coyote showed up the night before. I was hoping these are creatures of habit and that they would return the same time. Well, you guessed it right. Nothing but more pounding wind and some light rain blanketing the area. Having nothing else to do but to keep myself warm, I began to wrap the blanket around me like a giant sushi roll. No matter how much I wrapped the blanket, the cold air still find ways to knife thru and sending sharp cold breeze into my body. Ya, I wasn't happy with the situation I was in. I told myself that I am tough, patience and definitely not a quitter. So suck it up and continue to stalk these bloody coyotes. Ha, easily said than done. I was getting tired, cold and sleepy. But I didn't want to close my eyes for too long as any moment the coyotes might just showed up and feast on the two rats. I wasn't going to miss that chance, especially after 3-1/2 hours already.

12am came rather quickly so it seem. Perhaps my mind was in denial and have lost in time. Not only I was getting more exhausted and cold but my brain also began to act up. I was beginning to see objects moving and shifting around in the field. I think I was beginning to hallucinate and seeing things that I wanted to see, like coyotes coming thru the fence going for the bait. Again, no such thing. So I tried to combat the cold by wrapping the blanket around me as if I was in a cocoon. It stopped the wind hitting my face but the cold was still there. Of course I didn't want to miss my chance of a coyote encounter so the blanket never covered my face for more than 30 seconds or was that 30mins? I don't remember...

I know I have a lot of patience but I think I was just insane to torture myself tonight to hunt in this weather condition. Even the coyotes were smart enough to not go searching for food in this stormy night. Ya, I am a nut case who got the "coyote fever" syndrome.

I don't know what happened to 1am but I know there were still no sign of coyotes. 2am came around and my senses finally kicked in. I accepted the defeat and I will find the battle another day so I gradually packed up my gear and carefully climbed down the vertical ladder to make sure I didn't fall down the hole. At least I was still sane to be safe and drive myself home safe.

Yes it was a wrong choice to do the hunt tonight. It was a waste of 7-1/2 hours of my life, but heck what else would I be doing at home anywhere? Watching Youtube or reading AGN forums? LOL.

The saga continues.... maybe next Saturday will yield a fruitful night.

Thank you for reading.
 
@Max115 To me it’s all a part of the hunt. Like others have said, these creatures can be erratic. I haven’t found a noticeable pattern. I’ve caught them being active in rain, but I like you, have been out on cold nights with similar results. I caught myself nodding off on a stand around 2am and determined it was time to pack it in. At least you had the wind in your face so if they were around your scent wasn’t wafting and blowing around the area, at least not around the target area and access points. Keep at it my friend.
 
Well, it wasn't meant to happen last night. I started at 7:30pm and I didn't quit till 2:30am... It was the worst night to pick to do this coyote hunt because it was windy as hell and cold as Eskimo's ass. I began the night with lots of enthusiasm and excitement with the new shooting spot up high from the loft. I guess I was too eager to succeed and ended up failing miserably tonight. Wind was howling all day and continued into the night.

Upon my arrival, I quickly scanned the area for rats to use as bait. The Hades found two rats at 21 yards and that was all I could get as the rats were not coming out with the storm Stirling in the horizon. Realizing I wasn't going to get anymore rats, I turned on the trail cam and placed these bodies at the bait station 25 yards from my elevated shooting spot. My Impact, lazy chair and tripod was already up on the loft so I brought only my backpack filled with snacks and hot coffee. And I brought a blanket as well just in case. Well, I wished I would have brought a thick wool blanket or better yet, a heating blanket as I soon found out I needed the latter.

Wind was gusting thru the opening and blowing to my face as I settled into my chair. My first thought was, "this is great as the coyotes would not be able to smell my scent". Ya, the cold gusting wind didn't stop for 6-1/2 hours straight with increasing speed and coldness to boot. But I was too excited and didn't care about the strong wind blowing at my face in the first hour of sitting there. My eyes were glued to the field below, scanning left to right and anticipation of spotting a coyote.

An hour gone by and nothing happened. I was being patience and optimistic that the coyotes would come soon or later. I was planning to stay as long as it takes to get my chance at a coyote.

Second hour gone by and still nothing but howling wind getting stronger and stronger. Roof tins were flapping loudly and some of the sidings of the barn were loose and banging with each onslaught of the wind. It wasn't a quiet night. By now I was feeling the cold and being uncomfortable as my adrenaline has subsided somewhat with no sign of any coyotes. My eyes continued to monitor the trail cam mounted on the fence pole 38 yards in front of me. I tried to encourage myself and prey that any moment those IR red lights would come on. Nothing...

Coming up to 11pm and I got a bit excited again as that was the time the coyote showed up the night before. I was hoping these are creatures of habit and that they would return the same time. Well, you guessed it right. Nothing but more pounding wind and some light rain blanketing the area. Having nothing else to do but to keep myself warm, I began to wrap the blanket around me like a giant sushi roll. No matter how much I wrapped the blanket, the cold air still find ways to knife thru and sending sharp cold breeze into my body. Ya, I wasn't happy with the situation I was in. I told myself that I am tough, patience and definitely not a quitter. So suck it up and continue to stalk these bloody coyotes. Ha, easily said than done. I was getting tired, cold and sleepy. But I didn't want to close my eyes for too long as any moment the coyotes might just showed up and feast on the two rats. I wasn't going to miss that chance, especially after 3-1/2 hours already.

12am came rather quickly so it seem. Perhaps my mind was in denial and have lost in time. Not only I was getting more exhausted and cold but my brain also began to act up. I was beginning to see objects moving and shifting around in the field. I think I was beginning to hallucinate and seeing things that I wanted to see, like coyotes coming thru the fence going for the bait. Again, no such thing. So I tried to combat the cold by wrapping the blanket around me as if I was in a cocoon. It stopped the wind hitting my face but the cold was still there. Of course I didn't want to miss my chance of a coyote encounter so the blanket never covered my face for more than 30 seconds or was that 30mins? I don't remember...

I know I have a lot of patience but I think I was just insane to torture myself tonight to hunt in this weather condition. Even the coyotes were smart enough to not go searching for food in this stormy night. Ya, I am a nut case who got the "coyote fever" syndrome.

I don't know what happened to 1am but I know there were still no sign of coyotes. 2am came around and my senses finally kicked in. I accepted the defeat and I will find the battle another day so I gradually packed up my gear and carefully climbed down the vertical ladder to make sure I didn't fall down the hole. At least I was still sane to be safe and drive myself home safe.

Yes it was a wrong choice to do the hunt tonight. It was a waste of 7-1/2 hours of my life, but heck what else would I be doing at home anywhere? Watching Youtube or reading AGN forums? LOL.

The saga continues.... maybe next Saturday will yield a fruitful night.

Thank you for reading.
Tarp.
 
Good write up. I'm sure you learned somethings, just haven't discovered what they are yet. Unfortunately, that is why it's called hunting and not killing. IMO turkeys are harder to kill than deer, and coyotes are harder to kill than turkey. They are near the top of the food chain for a reason. Also as mentioned earlier, I think they learn about us as fast or faster than we figure them out. Better luck next time. Looking forward to the video!
 
Great thread and stories fellas!

I just bought a Steiner IR laser sight and attached it to my FX Impact, and I already have helmet-mounted dual Gen 3 goggles. I sighted the dot in last night and it is very accurate. I plan on putting my caller out this week and try out my luck on coyotes. I live in the NYC Metro Area (unfortunately) but believe it or not, there are pockets of wooded areas all around me which have never hunted before Coyotes, so hopefully my plan will pan out