HPDAVV High Pressure Air Compressor - 3HP - Issues

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HPDAVV High Pressure Air Compressor - 3HP - 110v / 60Hz / 1ph - 2.5cfm @ 4500 Psi - Scuba Tank/PCP Rife/Paintball Air Gun Filling Station Adjustable Digital...

I've had this for almost 1 year purchased from Amazon. First 7 months were great, used almost every week to fill my 75 cubic ft. Omega from around 33 -3400 psi to 4350 psi and my 19 cubic ft. from 3500 - 4350 psi. Total of 12 hours on compressor. First had a leak, took 3 weeks to get anew high pressure to tower hose. Since them I am having a very frustrating issue. When I start the compressor some times it will build pressure but most times it will not build pressure. Turn it off try again , no pressure. If it sits a day or two sometimes it will build pressure the first time and then not again unless I wait a couple of days. DAVV had ne install a new digital gauge, and a new reset button. No help. I also plugged it into 2 different outlets - no change. Every time they agree to send something it takes 1 week to send it and 2 -3 weeks to receive. Its been a week since I let them know that the reset button did not change anything - no word back, So it has been almost unused since January 9th. Anybody have any thoughts on where the problem is and how to fix it?
 
I would wenture to say: One way valve!

If the second one (ie read inlet valve in HP cylinder) quits you aint getting squat pressure through.

It will just reciprocate in the LP cylinder and go nowhere.

Once in a while it will seal on the first go and then work as intended for the rest of the session due to backpressure. But most of the time it will let air back into the LP cylinder and never start/seal up at all.



Look and clean!

You running proper compressor oil?

It's one of the places where dieseling will deposit carbon and cause leaks, if normal 10W-30 oil are used.
 
First, if it were a leak, serious enough to keep from building pressure, I think you'd hear it right away - you can't p*ss away 1000 cu ft of air without some evidence. I'm with Chickenthief - I think the valves one of your pistons are sticking - compress the air, then 'uncompress' it as the valve backs out. Talk to the vendor about new head valves (my terminology, no idea what they might call them). If the motor's turning, it's not a problem with your power or your outlets - you can write that off the list. 

I can't think of a condition that the reset switch would fix.

Good luck!

GsT
 
So many of these Chinese 2-stage compressors (HPDAVV/HPDMC, Tuxing, Air Venturi, etc.) seem to start with the almost identical motor/compressor and frame components, and then differ significantly on their cooling and control systems.

My (aptly named) Diablo compressors use the same base motor/compressor/frame. Long story short, I ended up purchasing 5 of them cheap off eBay, but they were all such a mess that I attempted to return them to the seller. He refunded my money in total, and said to just keep them. Free compressors give a retired person a lot of incentive to figure out how they work, and how to fix/rebuild them. 4 of the original 5 units now work great (although the one with the longest run time currently has only about 12.5 hours). I have given 2 away free to friends who I have hooked on PCP air guns. I use one almost daily to fill guns directly, and occasionally top off tanks. I have one good 'spare' unit. So I should be happy. But I haven't been able to fix that 5th unit, and your post (and the subsequent replies) caused me to pull it out of the shed and try again tonight.

I am attaching some photos with numbered areas referenced. If your and my cases do relate to check valves, this is what you would likely see if you got into your unit. My 'bad' #5 unit has the following issues: Volume lower than the others, only builds pressure to ~230 bar, and the worst thing is that it blows lots of oil smoke out of the crankcase breather. This last issue is what leads me to believe that I have check-valve issues. I have already torn both sides of this compressor apart, made sure my piston rings were staggered, replaced the first stage valve plate, replaced the high speed rings on the smallest piston shaft, and generally cleaned things up. Performance got better, but still not 'good'. This unit currently has Mobil Rarus 427 oil in the crankcase, but if I get it working better I will be changing over to synthetic SecoLube.

BTW: I HAVE FOUND WITH THESE COMPRESSORS THAT EVEN A SMALL AIR LEAK WILL MAKE THE UNIT SEEM LIKE IT IS NOT BUILDING PRESSURE AT ALL. They don't put out an enormous air volume after all, so even a tiny leak impacts them in a big way. I have kind of seen the gamut of how these compressors can fail to work and early on when my first one wouldn't build pressure it was ultimately due to a small air leak. CRC Aerosol Leak Detector is your best friend as the radiator cooling fan and the motor's in-built cooling fan both blow so much air that a thick and tacky leak detector is needed.

Numbered areas:

1) Outlet of first (low pressure) stage;

2) Inlet of second (high pressure) stage;

3) Outlet of second (high pressure) stage;

4) Inlet to the desiccant filled manifold 'tower'.

In the last photo you can see the various check valves you will likely find in your compressor.

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I am going to clean up a bunch of carbon deposits on my components, and see if any of my previously purchased re-build kits (Tuxing, through AliExpress) have suitable replacements. Maybe I can get #5 working after all.

Anyway, I at least wanted to post these pictures to let you know what you would be getting into. Not that bad actually. But do take digital photos as you are taking things apart, and have a nice big surface available with a towel on it to keep small bits from rolling away.

Good luck!
 
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Thanks for the info. I am running Royal Purple compressor oil. I'm going to remove and clean all the check valves that TMH shows in his pictures. If that doesn't fix it I'll replace the piston valves that GeneT mentions. Hope that works. I wom't be able to get to it until later this week.

What if I remove those check valves from the ends of the pipes? I don't open the valve on my tank until the compressor pressure is equal to or higher than the tank so there shouldn't be any blowback.................
 
Thanks for the info. I am running Royal Purple compressor oil. I'm going to remove and clean all the check valves that TMH shows in his pictures. If that doesn't fix it I'll replace the piston valves that GeneT mentions. Hope that works. I wom't be able to get to it until later this week.

What if I remove those check valves from the ends of the pipes? I don't open the valve on my tank until the compressor pressure is equal to or higher than the tank so there shouldn't be any blowback.................

That is the reason for cleaning the check valves, they must close completely to isolate the pressure at the different stages. Removing the check valves will give you the same problem as you have now. 
 
Final Update: I wasn't able to use this compressor for the last 3 months. I filed a claim a week ago with Asurion - the warranty I had bought form Amazon when I purchased the compressor. It took 5 days but they put the original purchase price into my Amazon account last Wednesday. So I would rate my experience a 1 out of a possible 5 for the compressor and 5 out of 5 with the warranty.. I gave the compressor to an airgun friend who is more mechanical than me and I hope he can get it running, In the meantime I bought an Omega TurboCharger off the Airgun Nation Classifieds in early June.