Hello, I put a Huggett Astile on my Evinex Max Air only to have it clip all of the inner Plastic baffles and totally destroy the inside of the moderator. So it is now useless and cannot be used anymore. I hope that this gets to the company that can help me to get their product on line to where the folks can again open up & be heard & we can open up new avenues into the ability to create a new ideas & help in the planning of help for the ones that really need your help & ideas for the future. This means an opening up of your new ability's to help your customers
Huggett moderator failings, No support!!
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Honestly I wouldn't expect any warranty on moderators, with the nature of how they work, and potential double loads, or other user errors, the likelihood that damage will occur over time is fairly inevitable.
That said, I would expect return/refund for DOA moderators, meaning its not concentric or damaged beyond use upon receipt of said moderator...
That said, I would expect return/refund for DOA moderators, meaning its not concentric or damaged beyond use upon receipt of said moderator...
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I'm sorry that you had that experience. Your overly verbose post however makes little sense after saying you had a clipping issue that destroyed the baffles of your moderator. It is premature to blame the maker of the moderator. Are you aware that it is recommended to use a caliber size larger than your gun in a moderator to avoid the issue. Rarely, is it the fault of the moderator; usually it is a barrel issue that causes the problem. Please state the caliber and make of gun as well as the caliber of the moderator you are using, and whether or not you are using any kind of adapter to fit the moderator to your gun. You are aware we're in the midst of a worldwide pandemic and the UK has been hard hit so may be slow to reply?
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DonnyFL guarantees his LDCs.
I have several of his LDCs. Once when an Emperor caused clipping, I notified Donny and he sent me another one, no questions asked.
I have several of his LDCs. Once when an Emperor caused clipping, I notified Donny and he sent me another one, no questions asked.
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you really need to make certain your adaptor fits the barrel snug . no play or movement before the grub screws are tight , just any ol adaptor wont do. most likely this is where your problem started.
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cmatera,
You are correct. Usually the barrel threads are not concentric to the bore.
It is why LDCs usually have a relatively large exit opening. My machinist friend has replaced LDC end-caps (after rethreading the barrel) with an exit opening a few thousands larger than the caliber resulting in a quieter LDC. And with a good crown the shot groups tighten up also. We have noticed these issues on many brands of air guns.
After trying several air gun brands it is not surprising when someone writes about their air rifle and baffle strikes.
This is my Uragan compact barrel after being rethreaded and crowned centered on the bore. The original threads were not concentric a surprising amount. An adaptor was made to install a Huggett.
You are correct. Usually the barrel threads are not concentric to the bore.
It is why LDCs usually have a relatively large exit opening. My machinist friend has replaced LDC end-caps (after rethreading the barrel) with an exit opening a few thousands larger than the caliber resulting in a quieter LDC. And with a good crown the shot groups tighten up also. We have noticed these issues on many brands of air guns.
After trying several air gun brands it is not surprising when someone writes about their air rifle and baffle strikes.
This is my Uragan compact barrel after being rethreaded and crowned centered on the bore. The original threads were not concentric a surprising amount. An adaptor was made to install a Huggett.
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Yes, it’s not Huggets fault, it’s your guns lousy machining fault. You dropped your watch in a blender and are blaming the watch.
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Reach out to Andrew Huggett, at Hugget in the UK, Email him through his website he is a great guy and I am sure will stand by his product, however if it clipped baffles at such a rate I would be looking at the threads not being aligned to bore, for it to hit and destroy internals there must be a major misalignment, usually clipping only occurs at exit hole which is usually considerably narrower than internals...
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Contact Andrew through Facebook or Instagram. He should get back to you pretty fast...See what he has to say. Seems more like user error though?
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cmatera,
You are correct. Usually the barrel threads are not concentric to the bore.
It is why LDCs usually have a relatively large exit opening. My machinist friend has replaced LDC end-caps (after rethreading the barrel) with an exit opening a few thousands larger than the caliber resulting in a quieter LDC. And with a good crown the shot groups tighten up also. We have noticed these issues on many brands of air guns.
After trying several air gun brands it is not surprising when someone writes about their air rifle and baffle strikes.
This is my Uragan compact barrel after being rethreaded and crowned centered on the bore. The original threads were not concentric a surprising amount. An adaptor was made to install a Huggett.
that’s shockingly bad given how much that gun cost!!!
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I have seen a few others mention that you should use a size larger however I do not agree with that. Why would they make it specific to size then? Why should you need to up-size? Im by all means not saying that you should not but if its made correctly then there should be no issues unless there is a defect of some sort, or something else is going on. I have never purchased a size larger and the only case where I could see a reason for it, would be with an airgun that you can change calibers and only want one moderator. Obviously you would want to have the larger in that case. I suppose some airguns may have issues with the correct size, but what do I know?
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That’s what we are eluding to Yo. There are a ton of guns out there that their machining is off. When I get a gun, I immediately tape the end of the shroud and fire a pellet. It blows out the tape but you can press it carefully back onto the muzzle and see where your pellet exited the hole. You will be very surprised how many guns the pellets are almost clipping the hole in the end of the shroud. Not Donnys or Huggetts fault. It’s to owner who didn’t detect he had a jacked up gun.
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Why? Because the moderator may be made right, but you’re barrel may not be, and considering the usually imperceptible difference in the sound, It’s better to err on the side of safety, so you won’t have put up a post blaming the maker of the moderator, who in many cases has done nothing wrong.
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I see your point. Then why not just make the hole larger to begin with if this is an issue? If you ask me, I would say that things are way off if clipping occurs with the correct moderator size. Honestly I was worried about this when I purchased the baffle system with the 1/2 threaded UNF end and added a .22 DonnyFL to my .22 Lelya. There was so much "play" going on with the baffle upgrade compared to the stock one. Had no issues with any clipping. This is why I would think that things would have be off a significant amount. But yeah, one cannot just assume that the newly purchased moderator is the issue.
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I spent a $1000 on this rifle. An awesome Evanix max-air it is not the rifles fault. I could feel & see that the moderator was not in alignment all the way through. I had used it for several weeks and removed it for a few days then re installed it when this happened and found that some of the modular sections did not totally line up. (I had added 2 more modules plus a new muzzle adapter from hugget) which made the length much longer than normal and maybe that was to much for this system to be able to keep every thing in perfect alignment. I do not know. Fortunately Hugget has contacted me so we can work together to work out this problem. I am very happy that they care enough to work this out with me. I really think that we can figure this out together.
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