HW/Weihrauch HW 30s Rear Sight Problem

If I could sit down with my rifle and most of you that shoot Springers I could quickly explain my problem. Explaining it here might challenge me but here goes...
On Oct 28 I received a new HW130 shipped to me by Krale in Belgium. They doubled boxed it. The outer box was in bad shape when I received it and about where the Rear Sight would be there was a hole in the box (photo attached. Oddly, the inner box showed very little damage at that same point. I have read on this forum about guys taking their new HW 30s out of the box and they were "sighted" in perfecltly. Not my experience. The "Elevation" knob (detents number 1 - 8) was all the way clockwise leaving no option to turn the elevation knob any further that way. When you look at the rear sight you see nothing broken or paint (bluing) scratched up. Here's the real heart of the issue: I watched a AOA You Tube on sighting in a new Springer Air Rifle. It's simple and he took a brand new rifle out of the box and seven shots later it was sighted in. I can't do that.
With the rifle supported I cannot get the front sight post in the small cut out - no matter how far I move forward or backward on the stock or what direction I move the rifle in.
1. When you look at the Rear Sight from behind it there is the rectangle that has the small cut out on top that you align with the post on the front site. OK, that whole rectangle is leaning to the left - maybe it's supposed to. I don't know - could you look at yours and see if it looks level or not - making sure there is no cant to the rifle when you check.
2. On that rectangle is a small square with the ball detent in the center of it. The "cut out" on the top is very small. On the bottom of that small rectangle is a slightly larger cut out that is not being used. Is that right? Small cut out on top and same type cut out but larger on the bottom?
I have a 43 year old Crosman 766 variable pump rifle that I can shoot beer cans with at 25 yards and hit them every time. I know that 's not "good shooting" for the standards of you guys and gals but - and I spent 18 months in combat in the jungle in Viet Nam firing a M16 more times that I can count - a lot of that suppressive fire but also some targeted shooting - and lastly, I also had a non-military pistol in View Nam, a Browning 9MM Parabellum (The armor at Phouc Vin could get me ammo for that pistol).
So, I feel defeated by this problem with my HW30s. No dealers where I live (Wilmington, NC) sell anything except GAMO rifles an no one repairs air rifles. I found one guy here locally that's opening a retail store in the next few weeks but I talked with him and he is only selling and working on PCP rifles.
Is it feasible to ask Krale to send me a whole new Rear Sight and on a long shot, if they did, would switching them be simple or difficult?
Thans for reading all of this. I know it's long.
Tarheel

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My r9 was way right all the way and still shot left .lol. Bad dirty barrel like hardened jb weld in the rifling ..

I got a thread at GTA on it and the 2 full days clean job getting that out .

Now I'm straight down the center dead nuts on .

Ya, that was a mess . On my old device I got several pictures to show you some other things . Maybe I can get them ( pretty sure there already posted here in some threads .
 
Is it up or dow you don’t have enough or right to left. More likely barrel droop and your out of up and down elevation

have you set the gun on a level table up side down and sight the barrel gap all the way down.
The rear sight is mounted on the barrel, this is not a problem due to the droop of the barrel.It's probably simple: the person has never sighted in a weapon and can't do it quickly and correctly.
 
Checked for barrel droop two ways - one using a steel 30 inch carpenters right angle square. Not barrel droop.Took the suggestion above to loosen the front sight screw and when I did i barely detected it moving. With light pressureI pushing itto place I tightened the screw. This made a big difference!
I am not getting anywhere near dime size groups bu now I can line the front sight post in the groove on the rear sight. I went through "sighting" the rifle again and on 5 shots they were within a two iand 1/4 inch circle. That's not great but it is definitely progress. Thanks for the tips.
 
Checked for barrel droop two ways - one using a steel 30 inch carpenters right angle square. Not barrel droop.Took the suggestion above to loosen the front sight screw and when I did i barely detected it moving. With light pressureI pushing itto place I tightened the screw. This made a big difference!
I am not getting anywhere near dime size groups bu now I can line the front sight post in the groove on the rear sight. I went through "sighting" the rifle again and on 5 shots they were within a two iand 1/4 inch circle. That's not great but it is definitely progress. Thanks for the tips.
First, shoot with heavy pellets, the rifle is new and works with diesel. When the excess grease burns out, the rifle will shoot more stably.
 
Apologies in advance if any of these comments seem insulting...but the sight looks fine to me:

+ The numbers on the elevation knob are an arbitrary reference - you aren't done raising it just because the "8" happens to be up! The sight has a large range of vertical adjustment, and the knob may rotate around many times as part of the process - looks to be maybe halfway up in your pics. Turn it counter-clockwise to raise it or clockwise to lower it of course.

+ It's normal for the elevation adjustment to be stiff on a new gun. If you have trouble turning the knob, push the sight down out of the way with your thumb (it's mounted on a simple leaf spring), turn the knob up or down, then release the sight.

+ The "small rectangle" is not fixed! It can be rotated to use any of the four notches you want - just pull it backwards and turn it. This lets you customize the sight picture to your preference for each of the different front sight inserts. (Diana has used rear sights like this since the 1950's!)

+ You describe the sight as "leaning to the left." Don't see it myself, but if it's canted it would be helpful to see a photo from straight behind it.
 
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