HW/Weihrauch HW Comparison

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I have new 2024 HW30,35e,50. 2013 HW95,90,30 ,1966 HW35 was sold. HW50 is the best!!!

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jps2486 said:
Those of you that own multiple HW rifles like the 35, 50, and 95, if you had your choice of one of those three, which would you choose? What's outstanding about the 35 that I should have one? I'm considering a 35 since I've heard so much about it. I already have a 30 and 95 and have had a 97.
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If you're considering it already AoA has a limited edition with the nickel plate or what ever it is and beautiful walnut stock the HW35e. I call that incentive.
It's a great shooter. I can hardly put the thing down.
I haven't got to spend enough time with the HW95n because it's off for a warranty check-up.
That one is also currently available in the nickel & walnut. More incentive also available in .20 cal!
I shot the 97 today and it is back to drilling targets!
I shot a shotshell's posterior right in the primer!
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I hope you love whatever you get. 👍
 
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I think about the HW50 and HW35 as being in the mid-power class (max 12-ish ft lbs), and the HW95 stepping up into the magnum power segment (at least for quality, non-bucket-of-bolts springers).
So, for me personally, if I want something higher powered than the HW30 (which I love shooting), then I go for the HW35 (or FWB124). An HW50 can make just as much power as the 35 and weighs a hell of a lot less, but I love the big, heavy, old-school qualify feel of the HW35. It just feels right to me. That said, practicality is not my primary driver here.
I have a 70's vintage HW35 in .177 that makes only about 9 ft lbs....but man does it shoot nicely. Shot cycle is sooo nice. Currently scoped and great on the bench. I also have a modern .22 that has open sights on it and is a fun plinker with a nice .22 pellet twack and lots of guessed holdover shots. Lots of fun as long as I'm not walking too far. Although what it really needs is a nice leather sling...I'll have to add that to the shopping list.

When I want more power, I step up to the HW95. A great all-around gun. I love the R1/HW80 on principal and have 3 of them, but almost never shoot them. The 95 makes almost as much power in a lighter, more compact package.

OP - if you already have a 95 and a 30, then I think of a HW50 as a boring middle child, whereas a 35 would be something quite different (bigger than the 95 but power that is about mid-way between the other two). That said, as much as I like my 35's, if I had a 30 and a 95 and wanted something in the middle power-wise, it would be a FWB 124. In fact, the last three rifles I would ever part with would be my peep-sighted HW30, scoped HW95, and open-sighted FWB 124. But I'm a long way from that today and have zero plans to downsize to that! :rolleyes:
 
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Deerstalker said:
Only have the 95 which IMO is outstanding at 17 FPE.

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I’ve shot and built many guns. NOT TUNED. BUILT MY OWN. ….17 ft lbs is questionable , that being said it’s a harsh shot cycle at that in a 26 mm 85 mm stroke. The guns a 14 ft lb to 15 in the sweet spot. A Hw 80 at 17 is a tad hard.
Not saying your not getting it but ,no matter how you slice it the stroke to size ratio makes it a snappy shot cycle.
I’ve had my R 9 at 18 for ten shots before I disassembled and rebuilt it..
 
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Your question is a legitimate good one. Unfortunately you're not going to get a clear cut answer here. This thread will have 30 different responses. Everyone has different opinions on all of these rifles. If you want one, buy it and if you don't like it, sell it and try another one. I have ten Weihrauch rifles and worked on every current model but the 57.
The only model I have no interest in owning is the 35. Some people love them. Buy one if you want one. Then make up your own opinion. That's all I can say.
 
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A.G.R said:
I’ve shot and built many guns. NOT TUNED. BUILT MY OWN. ….17 ft lbs is questionable , that being said it’s a harsh shot cycle at that in a 26 mm 85 mm stroke. The guns a 14 ft lb to 15 in the sweet spot. A Hw 80 at 17 is a tad hard.
Not saying your not getting it but ,no matter how you slice it the stroke to size ratio makes it a snappy shot cycle.
I’ve had my R 9 at 18 for ten shots before I disassembled and rebuilt it..
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It depends on the gun and the tune. If it's a .22, 17 is not crazy, but is about the max. I had one making 16.5 and the shot cycle was fine.
 
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I really like the 35E. Got 4 of them (2x from the 70s and 80s and 2x current). It's essentially a short stroked HW80 with a latch. I like the latch but only because it's a cool little feature and it's different. At 10fpe, the 35E is a pretty tame gun but it gets noticeably snapper at 12 fpe (13fpe in .22)

That being said, mine really don't get used a whole lot. The rest of the Weihrauch lineup is more functional and the 35E swivels tend to impeded bench shooting. I'm more likely to reach for a 97 or 95 if I need one and lately I find myself reaching for an FWB Sport or ASP20.

Reason to get a 35E: They're good guns and very pretty. If you want one, get it. You'll be happy with it but don't expect it to out perform any other Weihrauch.
 
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Beeman22 said:
It depends on the gun and the tune. If it's a .22, 17 is not crazy, but is about the max. I had one making 16.5 and the shot cycle was fine.
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No matter what tune. There is no magic. Use a long spring 35 +: coil ARH hornet spring and pre load the snot out of a 270 gram piston x85 mm x26 mm tube, or 30 coil fat wire spring wire with big top hat. Only few ways to get that power. It’s over sprung and snappy. Long barrel was the only way I could handle the first ten shots. I tried a carbine barrel and went to the press for disassembly. 17 ft lbs gains nothing down range a 15 ft lb baby will do. 25 yards zero nets 1/4 low at 40 with both.

The guns not at It’s best there , R1 supersedes it in every way at that power. But if your pleased ,by all means keep shooting.
 
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Interesting comments. Thank you

I bought a used HW95 from AOA only because it was in new condition and it had a walnut stock which I am partial to. This is my second one. I sold the first because it didn't light my fire. Well the second HW95 was so disappointing because it's accuracy was bad, it vibrated like crazy and was loud. I thought I made a big mistake. So I bought a Vortek HO spring kit just to see if it truly does improve these spring guns as many of you say. I got it back together tonight. I did cut one coil off the spring because I wanted it to shoot a bit more gently. What a surprise when I first started shooting it. It was so quiet, I thought there was something wrong with the gun. Vibration was far less than original and accuracy was much improved. With this setup, it shot AA 8.4 gr pellets at 918 fps and 10.3 gr at 831. That's just about where I want it. I think that after some breaking in, the velocity might be a little less, but that's ok. I think my yearning for an HW 35 might have been subdued now. I appreciate all your thoughts on this. Your experience is a valued tool. Thanks.
 
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