HW/Weihrauch HW Comparison
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I will take my R-9 IN .20 any day, then the heavy HW97 in.22; my 50 in .177 is a bitch, she is accurate, but you got to hold her just so and make her think you love her for her to perform.
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One of my attention favorites.
Interesting! All I hear is positives until I own one.
Now the rifle itself is demonstrating in it's own defense
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The HW35 is an old model rifle, heavy, large, not very powerful and not cheap, it doesn't even have 16 joules of power. Such rifles are called paddle in Europe. 16 joules is the most common minimum power for FT used in Europe, for these reasons the HW35 is not popular in Europe.One of my attention favorites.
Interesting! All hear is positives until I own one.
Now the rifle itself is demonstrating it's own defense
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I understand.
I couldn't find anything written about the gun like you're saying. My interest in the rifle was peaked listening to folks on your side of the pond singing the guns praises.
I don't personally care about joules as long as it has the power at 75 yards to trip and reset the targets. It's a challenge for me to take a gun to its performance edge and perform well with it. The 35 meets that challenge and I have a difficult time putting it down. The value of one these airguns is it's entertainment value and I am quite entertained.
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Well from reading this thread, it's obvious the only real answer is to buy them all and decide for yourself, LOL! In all seriousness...the whole Weihrauch line is excellently designed and built, each with its own niche. The trick is to educate yourself on the differences, and think through what you want out of it, before buying.
I do love the HW 35, but I hasten to add that I am more a collector than a day-to-day shooter. Top power, long-range target shooting, hunting, etc. are not top priorities. I admire the 35's long history, very German old-school styling, build quality, accuracy, and great-handling walnut stocks. And it's kind of a company history in a nutshell; the number of variations and evolutionary changes since it was born in the early 1950's is astonishing. I have a friend who has collected 30+ (!) different ones.
My current trio...the old Export, with its slightly ridiculous 22-inch barrel, is one of the most beautiful things I own:
This excellent thread from another forum has many great detail comments on the HW 35, beginning with the most incisive philosophical assessment of it I have ever seen - worth a read.
I do love the HW 35, but I hasten to add that I am more a collector than a day-to-day shooter. Top power, long-range target shooting, hunting, etc. are not top priorities. I admire the 35's long history, very German old-school styling, build quality, accuracy, and great-handling walnut stocks. And it's kind of a company history in a nutshell; the number of variations and evolutionary changes since it was born in the early 1950's is astonishing. I have a friend who has collected 30+ (!) different ones.
My current trio...the old Export, with its slightly ridiculous 22-inch barrel, is one of the most beautiful things I own:
This excellent thread from another forum has many great detail comments on the HW 35, beginning with the most incisive philosophical assessment of it I have ever seen - worth a read.
Some HW35e Thoughts (So As Not To Hijack Another Thread) - Airguns & Guns Forum
Some HW35e Thoughts (So As Not To Hijack Another Thread), Air guns, Airgun Forum
www.gatewaytoairguns.org
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I don't think you would like it! It's a very specific purpose made gun. Strap it up, throw it over your shoulder, and head into the woods.... except it's too pretty for that. Mine get used solely for offhand practice at 10m in my house. OCCASIONALLY I'll take one to the club and bench it. Aside from that, they're good for looking at.I still don't want one
A bit off topic but I do think Weihrauch should start shipping the 35E with peep sights again. They fit that gun so we'll and its the reason why my old Luxus guns get used more than the new ones.
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Apostate!I still don't want one
I would add, as recently discussed in another thread, that the HW 35 is NOT at a power disadvantage in its biggest market - Germany - where you are limited by law to 7.5 joules (just under 6 FPE) without a firearm license. Even I have to admit that is probably the biggest reason the old beast is still being manufactured.
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Good writeup on the hw35, thanks for sharing that
Even if I'm not interested in a particular gun, I enjoy detailed writeups like this that explain what is unique about a gun, and what it does well and not so well.
The 'next gun' question is highly subjective, and there is usually a wide dispersion of opinions. Looking back over the years, my pattern has been to buy another of what has worked well (i.e., hw30s and hw50s) as often as I try something new. Maybe a bit boring, but sticking with what works has served me well. I'm a bit of an outlier in that I have never owned an hw95 or R9, one of the most popular Weihrauchs. No rush, but if/when I buy another, the choice will be between the hw95 and the TX200.
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If you're looking for a good "irons only" break barrel, try to find either a "new" FWB Sport or an Anshutz 335 (Crosman 6500). Both have irons that blow the HW irons out of the water. The Sport is a snappy gun as well and does require at least a new guide to make them silky smooth, but they handle amazingly and stack pellets all day.
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Oh boy, those are two different animals. I've owned both plus an HW97K, R8, and R7. I still have the TX and the HW95. I like the TX mostly because it is easy to dis assemble to work on the innards. You don't need a spring compressor. I also like the deep blueing and fit and finish over the HWs. The HW95 on the other hand, is a lot lighter and is the perfect compromise as an all around gun. It has plenty of power too, but can be tuned down if you wish. I consider the TX more of a target rifle and bench gun because of its weight, while the HW is the perfect hunter. You just have to have both.
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Good info, thanks. I'm leaning TX because I do all of my hunting with an hw50s in .177, and I own a lot of HW break barrels.
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This is more like the inspiration I was seeing prior to AoA's offering of the beautiful HW35e!
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