HW/Weihrauch HW30 v HW50

My gosh, I read this post last night and decided WTF, this post makes sense. Worse thing that can happen is, I'll sell the one I don't want, ......maybe. I ordered both today. Got the HW50 in SS and the HW30 Deluxe, both 22. Shipping in 2 days.
I would just keep both. You have 2 really nice rifles. I would have got the 30 in .177 and the 50 in .22.
 
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Well, my 30 came in yesterday. Never saw anything like it. Small, compact, light, handy, well balanced, but not super light, just relatively light and hangs well from the offhand position. Small, compact rifles I have owned before were much lighter, less well balanced, and nowhere near the craftsmanship of this rifle.

Bad news, it was not easy to cock or close as I had heard and the Rekord trigger is not like my other Rekords, it has a good amount of creep. Good news, after shooting it a good deal the barrel is now easy to cock and close, and the creep is consistent, smooth and light and I find I actually like it this way.

Just shooting from my indoor/outdoor range for rainy days which is 8 to 10 yards long, depending on how my wife has the porch furniture arranged, 9 yards today.

Using a Williams FP 5D-AG peep and post front blade, with 74 year old eyes on a cloudy, grey rainy day my groups so far have been:
1. H&N Sport .361
2. R10 Match .425
3. Meisterkgeln 5 stacked in One hole
4. JSB Match Middle Weight .260
5. JSB Match S100 .125
6. HM Barracuda M .045
7. CPHP .400
8. CP Dome Ultra Mag .507

With a few exceptions, not so great for only 9 yards but I think a scope would help. But I have no intention of scoping it because I use my 97 for benchrest duty and do most of my shooting from the 4 traditional field positions.

This afternoon I will test the H&N Sampler pack. As of this moment, I am not sure I will shoot my other HW's much after this. I am amazed at how much fun this rifle is.

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Shoot a few tins then adjust the trigger.
 
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My gosh, I read this post last night and decided WTF, this post makes sense. Worse thing that can happen is, I'll sell the one I don't want, ......maybe. I ordered both today. Got the HW50 in SS and the HW30 Deluxe, both 22. Shipping in 2 days.

They are different animals. The HW30 is a fun all day plinker. I consider the HW50 more of a lightweight hunter. It is nicely balanced to carry and shoot, but fairly heavy to cock for its power level. If ease of cocking (at 11-12 ft lbs of energy) is a priority, then an HW35 or a detuned HW95 is a better option.
 
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They are different animals. The HW30 is a fun all day plinker. I consider the HW50 more of a lightweight hunter. It is nicely balanced to carry and shoot, but fairly heavy to cock for its power level. If ease of cocking (at 11-12 ft lbs of energy) is a priority, then an HW35 or a detuned HW95 is a better option.
Ditto. The 50 is my hunter. It's light, handy, points and balances better (for me) than any other Weihrauch I own.

I plink with the 30s for hours on end. They're an absolute joy. My favorite of all.

The 50 is at least as hard to cock as my full power 95 family guns. The 35 will cock easier for the same power as the 50. For bench shooting I prefer the 95 platform guns over the others. I like them at full power. If easy cocking is a priority look at an 85. It's a long barrel 95.
 
Thanks guys. Follow up question, how does the 50 cocking effort compare to the 35 cocking effort? I don't have a 30 yet but I do have a 35 and don't find the cocking effort bad with the 35.
the 35 is a bit harder than the 50 but quite a bit harder than the 30 .I do not own a 50 but have shot one .
 
the 35 is a bit harder than the 50 but quite a bit harder than the 30 .I do not own a 50 but have shot one .
I disagree. Unless the 35 has the very uncommon short barrel or the hw50 you shot was an older 25 mm model or a detuned current 26 mm model, the current 35 is always easier to cock than the current 50. I've tuned several of both and currently own a 177 Hw50 and have owned a 22 Hw50 as well.

Only the collectible old leather sealed 25 mm Hw50s cock easier than the Hw35. That's a great find if you can find one.

Sorry to disagree with you but I don't want the gentleman buying a gun based on your unusual experience.
 
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I disagree. Unless the 35 has the very uncommon short barrel or the hw50 you shot was an older 25 mm model or a detuned current 26 mm model, the current 35 is always easier to cock than the current 50. I've tuned several of both and currently own a 177 Hw50 and have owned a 22 Hw50 as well.

Only the collectible old leather sealed 25 mm Hw50s cock easier than the Hw35. That's a great find if you can find one.

Sorry to disagree with you but I don't want the gentleman buying a gun based on your unusual experience.
thank you i was going on my experience and only shot the 50 a few times, My 35 i believe is all original older finger groove , rather beat up but cleand up nicely and shoots strong
 
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Discordo. A menos que o 35 tenha o cano curto muito incomum ou o hw50 que você atirou fosse um modelo antigo de 25 mm ou um modelo atual de 26 mm desafinado, o 35 atual é sempre mais fácil de armar do que o 50 atual. Eu afinei vários de ambos e atualmente possuo um 177 Hw50 e também tive um 22 Hw50.

Somente o antigo galo colecionável de couro selado de 25 mm Hw50s é mais fácil que o Hw35. É um ótimo achado se você conseguir encontrar um.

Desculpe discordar de você, mas não quero que o cavalheiro compre uma arma com base em sua experiência incomum.
Eu tenho uma velha 25mm 50. Ela é tão fácil de armar quanto a 30. Eu a uso para atirar sem mira.

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I bought a 50s in .177 and am enjoying it immensely. Even though the weather is cooling off in Wisconsin I shoot it daily. When people are talking about it being hard to cock I wonder about the rate of fire. I wasn’t a great archer, but I did some on and off for years. From that I learned to pace myself and take a few breaths between shots. Do others do the same? Is there a consensus?
 
Been posted in other threads here many times before, but for the record there are two quite different rifles called "HW 50."

The original was HW's first post-war product, came out about 1951 and made until 1999. There were MANY variations of stocks, triggers, sights, seal materials, etc. over the years; but all have a 25mm piston seal, double-jointed cocking link, etc. It's the only small-receiver-tube HW to have the solid threaded-on rear section like the bigger HW 35, 77, 80, etc. It's roughly a 700 FPS gun in .177. The old 50 was also the basis for the HW 55 target rifle.

The current HW 50 came out in 1999 and was at first called the "HW 99." The exterior of the receiver tube is the same size as the old gun (they will interchange stocks), and the double cocking link was retained, but internally it's much different: 26mm piston, longer stroke, shorter transfer port, shorter barrel, no threaded rear part - and about 100 FPS more zip. Due to its resemblance to the historic and popular oldster, the gun was re-named HW 50 in most markets. It is still called the HW 99 in the UK, and was briefly known as the "Beeman R6" here when it was new.

Canoa's pic above is an OLD HW 50S, which along with the HW 55 is a personal fave. Just for giggles here are some other variations of the old gun:

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