HW/Weihrauch HW50S .177 Silhouette Shooting

Holding the barrel while loading is done to prevent the barrel slamming closed on your fingers. There's a lot of spring press in there and if the trigger let's go the barrel will slam close and chop off your finger.
I have never done this in my 45 years of shooting airguns. All mine are HW's with Auto Safeties. I have never seen one Beartrap. Heard of it, but never seen it.

Obviously something wrong with the guns, maybe somebody doing some Trigger Adjustments they shouldn't have.?

I also use Pellet Pens from Air Venturi for handling my pellets, and have for the last 20+ years no chance of getting bit using them to insert pellets.

Randy
 
I have never done this in my 45 years of shooting airguns. All mine are HW's with Auto Safeties. I have never seen one Beartrap. Heard of it, but never seen it.

Obviously something wrong with the guns, maybe somebody doing some Trigger Adjustments they shouldn't have.?

I also use Pellet Pens from Air Venturi for handling my pellets, and have for the last 20+ years no chance of getting bit using them to insert pellets.

Randy
I also sorta struggle to envision this happening. I do now though, more often than not, hold the barrel. I think Randy has the right idea of some trigger adjustments, perhaps too light.

- Brent
 
Just hold the barrel. There's a forbidden trigger adjustment screw that will give you a bump trigger. Bottom line the odds are very very low your gun will snap closed. It's easily avoidable. Do as you wish. You asked. I answered. It's your call now
I DID say it’s become more of a habit didn’t I? I’m not throwing the information away, merely saying, with a stock gun and the way I manipulate it, I can’t see it happening. Not that it won’t…
 
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I was told to hold the barrel to prevent from slamming shut and possible bending the barrel and damaging the seals . So i do .
Everyone can breathe a sigh of relief! The holding the barrel while loading is firmly a habit now 😂🤣 been doing a ton of shooting out back. I appreciate the push in the direction from the community.

- Brent
 
I just joined up airgun nation (having fun Brent?) and like this thread. Now I know that Brent is younger than me, but this thread has raised a question for me. If I am going to use my unpurchased rifle as yet for Silhouette shooting do I really need a scope? Or can I just use open sights to hit that 1.5" chicken at 20 yards?
 
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I just joined up airgun nation (having fun Brent?) and like this thread. Now I know that Brent is younger than me, but this thread has raised a question for me. If I am going to use my unpurchased rifle as yet for Silhouette shooting do I really need a scope? Or can I just use open sights to hit that 1.5" chicken at 20 yards?
That depends an your eyes and the lighting. If you're older and need readers peep sights help a lot. I'm 58 and can't hardly use regular irons without perfect lighting. Peeps work well enough for me that I hit 1.5" spinners at 50 yards. 20 yards shouldn't be a problem with everything sorted out and working order.
 
I just joined up airgun nation (having fun Brent?) and like this thread. Now I know that Brent is younger than me, but this thread has raised a question for me. If I am going to use my unpurchased rifle as yet for Silhouette shooting do I really need a scope? Or can I just use open sights to hit that 1.5" chicken at 20 yards?
Hey Doc! Welcome aboard, and good to see ya here too as well! I am having TOO much fun and you can too with some peeps! Worst come to worst you can try the Williams and if it’s not working out, I’m sure you could find a new owner for it!

Happy to see you on this forum as well, my brother ☺️
 
I definitely keep clear of my fire control group until I’m ready to fire. I have read the risks of the barrels slamming shut and will seek to build muscle memory to overcome that habit. Thanks for pointing it out. I have not fooled with the trigger settings from the factory. I find it more than acceptable as is. Thanks for the tips, y’all.

- Brent
think about it . you already have hold of the barrel when you cock the gun . so keep hold and load the pellet , easy
 
think about it . you already have hold of the barrel when you cock the gun . so keep hold and load the pellet , easy
Lol

Everyone can rest easy and calmly now.

I maintain a firm grasp upon my barrel throughout the entire loading sequence. I have had a few I’ve shown air rifles to for the first time recently, and I hammered home holding the barrel. We’re all barrel holders now! 😂

Lesson is firmly learned now. We’re good.
 
I just joined up airgun nation (having fun Brent?) and like this thread. Now I know that Brent is younger than me, but this thread has raised a question for me. If I am going to use my unpurchased rifle as yet for Silhouette shooting do I really need a scope? Or can I just use open sights to hit that 1.5" chicken at 20 yards?
One thing I DO want to mention. My Williams goes low enough to be a dead hold at 50y. Everything closer is a hold under and can get a little fiddly at the close targets. A scope would alleviate that I’d imagine.
 
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Good shooting! I've got a bunch of those yellow 1/10 scale silhouettes. Great fun. PA gives a pack out for free when you buy a rifle. I have my .177 HW50S set up with a peep/diopter sight too. Used a spare Daisy/Avanti sight I had in the parts drawer.

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Nice looking gun!
 
I just joined up airgun nation (having fun Brent?) and like this thread. Now I know that Brent is younger than me, but this thread has raised a question for me. If I am going to use my unpurchased rifle as yet for Silhouette shooting do I really need a scope? Or can I just use open sights to hit that 1.5" chicken at 20 yards?
As has been stated, OEM open sights will work fine if your front sight is a simple blade/post. If you're purchasing a gun like HW with a front sight hood and an assortment of inserts, you may find you like the ring, or circle insert for silhouette so you can see the targets more easily without blocking them out with the front post. In that case a rear peep is better to use than the OEM "V" or notch rear sight. And the rear peep still works fine if you go back to a front post. If you go with a Williams peep and have a few spare dollars, get the one with target knobs so you can easily make field adjustments with your fingers, not a screw driver. Do a search for Bear-of-Grayling post on Williams peep sights. He modified one with a set screw to prevent slipping and the need for over tightening the tiny screws securing the base jaws.
 
Lol

Everyone can rest easy and calmly now.

I maintain a firm grasp upon my barrel throughout the entire loading sequence. I have had a few I’ve shown air rifles to for the first time recently, and I hammered home holding the barrel. We’re all barrel holders now! 😂

Lesson is firmly learned now. We’re good.
Lead or air every rifle has some procedures that need to be taken to make it last. Like those of us that are single shot Sharps shooters; got to half cock that hammer BEFORE you drop that lever to load your ammo! Or you better have an extra box of firing pins. :)
 
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As has been stated, OEM open sights will work fine if your front sight is a simple blade/post. If you're purchasing a gun like HW with a front sight hood and an assortment of inserts, you may find you like the ring, or circle insert for silhouette so you can see the targets more easily without blocking them out with the front post. In that case a rear peep is better to use than the OEM "V" or notch rear sight. And the rear peep still works fine if you go back to a front post. If you go with a Williams peep and have a few spare dollars, get the one with target knobs so you can easily make field adjustments with your fingers, not a screw driver. Do a search for Bear-of-Grayling post on Williams peep sights. He modified one with a set screw to prevent slipping and the need for over tightening the tiny screws securing the base jaws.
Yep, good advice.

For my 50S with the diopter sight, I ended up using the front sight insert you mention with the circle/ball on top of the thin post. It's perfect for silhouettes. Makes it almost too easy at 20-30 yds offhand.
 
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