HW70A Black Arrow

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JohnnyPiston

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I've had this pistol for a few months now. Fun to shoot! I brought the scope height down a bit by replacing the Weihrauch high mounts ( that came with the package ) with the set up seen below (low Vortex picatinny mounts & UTG adaptor bases). Added a grip sleeve for better purchase/handling. 

The pistol is stock & barrel untouched with the exception of cleaning patches and WD40/denatured alcohol.

Capable of shooting ragged hole groups at 10-12 yards standing on a "zen day". 

This morning it was fun to shoot at grass tips uncovered in the snow and see a pellet trail form in the new snow🤓👍🏻

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Nice pistol there JP, is the Diana LP8 in your radar too?
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Thanks bud, I had one for a short time but found it to have awkward balance in the hand. The size/length/top-heavy weight distribution didn't merit keeping it, especially when compared to the performance of the Beeman P1/P11/HW45.

The HW70 Black Arrow is a mild mannered pistol. Easy to cock, not hard to shoot and pretty quiet: no worries shooting inside a hotel with a portable silent pellet trap (small electrical panel box with duct-seal)🤓


 
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The grip is plastic. Not bad looking as plastic goes but it is plastic. I think in the past the Black Arrow model came with black grips but may be wrong. I took a shot at making a wood stock/grips for my HW 70 but was a bit beyond my skill level. I thought mine felt a little top-heavy. Nice guns though and seem to be under appreciated. Don't hear many talk about them.
 
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Yes, as tinker said the grip is plastic but it has some depth to it thanks to the 'wood like' pattern and matte sheen. Not cheap looking plastic, if you know what I mean.

The cocking effort is very light. No real learning curve involved like the Beeman P1/P11/HW45 or P3/HW40 or HW75. Just an intuitive, short downward stroke. 

The Black Arrow is a current production gun, so yes, still available.

Here is a pic from a while back with the package included Weihrauch 2 piece high mounts and Weihrauch 2x20 pistol scope:

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I also tried a Burris Fast Fire III mounted. Very slick set up IMO, great balance too.

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But I settled with the Weihrauch 2X20 scope, mounted as low as possible. Lower center of gravity, improved balance and steadiness compared to the high mount set up:

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JohnnyPiston said:
I've had this pistol for a few months now. Fun to shoot! I brought the scope height down a bit by replacing the Weihrauch high mounts ( that came with the package ) with the set up seen below (low Vortex picatinny mounts & UTG adaptor bases). Added a grip sleeve for better purchase/handling.

The pistol is stock & barrel untouched with the exception of cleaning patches and WD40/denatured alcohol.

Capable of shooting ragged hole groups at 10-12 yards standing on a "zen day".

This morning it was fun to shoot at grass tips uncovered in the snow and see a pellet trail form in the new snow🤓👍🏻

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What's the fps & power output? Will it take down a squirrel?
 
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I don't know yet, and my labradar is set up for airguns with a pickup microphone to activate it. But it resides at my son's home. The Black Arrow sits in a box on the porch and my energy budget with my back is spent for an hour or so. The Black Arrow was delivered this morning. May give a report in a week. Doing some heavy gardening, the back is complaining. Be Well Pistoleros, Bandito.
 
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carlosmccutcheon1000 said:
What's the fps & power output? Will it take down a squirrel?
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I shared some tuning tips with Johnny on that link. I managed to just about hit 480fps after a slight drop back from the 490 fps I got from the first 100
shots.. Nothing earth shattering even after major tuning, but it became a clean hole cutter on paper targets, improved accuracy and scoring on the target, and to answer your question probably would take a squirrel with head shot (only) at 8-10 yds max..
Without major tuning, they are typically a good 40 fps faster than the usual SSP brigade like the HW75 once broken in.
 
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I really like the BA. I think it is the perfect compliment to an HW30. Great all day shooter and I have taken a few grackles with it. Really smacks a soup can at 20 yards.

Here is my shot string.

HW70 BA

Shot count: 10

Low: 455 FPS
Hi: 466 FPS
Avg: 460 FPS
Spread: 11 FPS
STD Dev: 3.2 FPS

04-Jul-2023 10:07:53,466,FPS,3.5,FT Lbs,
04-Jul-2023 10:08:03,462,FPS,3.5,FT Lbs,
04-Jul-2023 10:08:14,459,FPS,3.4,FT Lbs,
04-Jul-2023 10:08:30,459,FPS,3.4,FT Lbs,
04-Jul-2023 10:08:41,462,FPS,3.5,FT Lbs,
04-Jul-2023 10:09:13,462,FPS,3.5,FT Lbs,
04-Jul-2023 10:09:22,457,FPS,3.4,FT Lbs,
04-Jul-2023 10:09:35,456,FPS,3.4,FT Lbs,
04-Jul-2023 10:09:47,455,FPS,3.4,FT Lbs,
04-Jul-2023 10:10:15,462,FPS,3.5,FT Lbs,
 
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