I am really pleased with my Burris 2x7x32 pistol scope.

[boscoebrea]

I have quite a few pistol scopes,but none have AO adjustments,this scope does and it helps me see better,

Another thing I like is the 32 objective lens,more light better sight picture.

The scope is sort-of-longish,that is ok ,so are my PCP pistols.

I went from being pleased with my $60 N pistol scope to a Simmons and now this Burris,oh yea also the Nikon pistol scope.

Each scope is good for the price range I paid for it..I do not pay retail btw.

Set at 7x and at 25yds,the Burris gives my a good clear sight picture.

Another thing,shooting through a pistol scope takes some doing,it is a lot harder than looking through a rifle scope,plus you need to stay really "calm" as your shakes are magnified.

I aso have some Leupold pistol scopes,they are low power and I never use them anymore,they do have great optics.

You certainly do not need a lot of power in a pistol scope,and until you get good at using one the higher power can actually be a hindrance.

I feel I need a scope mounted on my PCP pistols to get the most from them.

I would never scope any of my power burning pistols as I shoot them freehand.

Just some thoughts on this holiday.

 

[AirNGasman]

You pretty much center-punched the bulls-eyes with your observations BB; a couple maybe edge of the bull with my own observations. 

I have a 2-7X32 Burris pistol scope on my 10" .221 Fireball Contender barrel; the most accurate gun of any kind I own (ties my .22 Contender carbine equipped with 4.5-14X rifle scope). Both guns consistently average .54" to .80" groups at 100 yards. Suffice to say it's considerably more difficult with the pistol scope, per your observations.

I believe Burris has made at least 2 different 2-7X32 pistol scopes, as mine is not long (at 9-11/16"). Also, in online shopping/wishing for another I've only found longer ones (probably like your's). The only complaint about mine is adjusting the objective focus, especially form 50 yards out, requires a lot of fishing back and forth to discern best focus.

These being relatively expensive scopes, I doubt we'll see many more posts specifically relating to personal experience(s) with them. However you left plenty more food for thought and discussion with your observations, including other scopes.

Wholeheartedly agree with your points, "shooting through a pistol scope takes some doing" and "until you get good at using one the higher power can actually be a hindrance". But that's why God invented non-magnifying red-dot optics.

Or was that Al Gore? 

 

[ctshooter]

Hey - I'm just curious - where did you get a Burris 2-7 with AO? I have a 3-12 with front AO, but I've never seen a 2-7 with AO on it. I thought the 2-7s were all fixed parallax.

 

[boscoebrea]

Thank you,I think a red dot will be my next purchase or your book.

How do you like your 3-12 Burris.?...it seems Burris makes the most versatile pistol scopes.

It is always a good idea to look up a manufactures data list to see what they made,also what the parallax is set at and so on,

Even without a parallel adjustments all my pistol scopes can be used at 25 yds,just helps when you have it.

I look at the sites that have customer want ads.... sometimes it may take a long time to see what you are looking for and most times it is Overpriced. Tasco also has AO pistol scopes.Most of these scopes are older models.

Custom long range pistols,never forgot the story and pictures of Rick Mears custom pistols.

There is something special about becoming a good pistol shot...

"Rons" shots at 100yds are historic! Texas for sure,LOL.

 

[ctshooter]

I really like the Burris 3-12. AO down to 25 yards, but at 3x it's usable down to 10. It's easy to use up to 10x, but 12x you really got be just right or else forget it. 

Regarding red dots: I think Trijicon is the only one who makes a 1MOA dot. Holosun makes one with a 2MOA dot which is very clear (ie: no startburting if you have some astigmatism). Or you can go the etched reticle prism red dot route, but those have eye relief in the same range as rifle scopes so not great for pistols. 

 

[kkarmical]

What's the eye relief on the Burris like? I do not have much experience on using pistol scopes, and found the eye relief being advantageous to fully extended arm holds, but taking more time in getting a proper sighting on anything else.

I use my off elbow for support and found the long eye relief not a fit for that hold.

 

[ctshooter]

Handgun scope and off-hand shooting do not go together. It's very hard to use a handgun scope with any level of magnification over 3-4x without something to rest the gun on.

 

[bandg]

What's the eye relief on the Burris like? I do not have much experience on using pistol scopes, and found the eye relief being advantageous to fully extended arm holds, but taking more time in getting a proper sighting on anything else.

I use my off elbow for support and found the long eye relief not a fit for that hold.

Shooting in the manner you describe, you might be better off fitting a rifle scope than a pistol scope. Pistol scopes are designed with long eye relief in order to shoot with the pistol at arms length. Trying to shoot with less eye relief will be difficult to say the least. Contrary to the statement above by ctshooter, I have 2 scoped pistols and shoot them "off-hand" regularly. Like anything, it takes practice and it isn't exactly "easy" but it works as intended. I've always preferred open sights on my pistols and never wanted to scope one but changing eyes brought the need to do so about and the pistol scopes have worked well for me.

 

[ctshooter]

bandg - what X factor are you able to shoot offhand and are there any tips you could share to keep things steady.

I can shoot a pistol scope at 4x off-hand just as well as I can shoot with a RDS, but not better. Any more zoom than that and I have a really hard time keeping the sight picture. 

 

[bandg]

bandg - what X factor are you able to shoot offhand and are there any tips you could share to keep things steady.

I can shoot a pistol scope at 4x off-hand just as well as I can shoot with a RDS, but not better. Any more zoom than that and I have a really hard time keeping the sight picture.

I haven't shot a competition target in decades. I grew up shooting .22 rimfire handguns almost daily and have always considered myself a better handgun shot than rifle shot. As you note, it isn't easy and staying as steady as one will with a rifle will never happen. Also as you note, higher magnification does exacerbate the perceived movement. I don't particularly prefer scopes on pistols and would rather use open sights but the eyes don't allow it as reliably with my eyes-the front sight isn't too bad but I can't focus on the rear. I always said I'd never scope a pistol. Famous last words and life often changes things. I believe a pistol scope allows a little finer aim than a RDS simply because the dot can obscure a small target or aim point but certainly the scopes can seem to be a little less stable visually. I don't believe that they are, just that the magnification makes it seem so.

I've had a group of problem squirrels to cull lately and a few were done with the pp700 and the HW44. I don't think an RDS would have allowed a clear view of the head amongst the leaves as well as the scopes do as it seems the dot covers too much of small targets. I could be wrong about that as I haven't tried one on my air pistols but I do have a carry handgun with a Leupold Delta Point Pro sight which works extremely well for it's intended use. It just seems that a scope is better for smaller targets, at least in my hands (and mind). Also, all of the pistol squirrel shots were rested except one. Resting is always a good practice for pistol accuracy when possible.