Taipan I got a new Taipan Veteran!

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I just received earlier my Taipan Veteran 1 in .25 caliber! Pictured on top in the green laminate stock. I've had the .22 Long for 4 years and sold it a few months ago for the .22 Standard. I wasn't planning on buying another gun so soon but when I found out from a conversation with Taipan that the stock Talon Tunes had of the OG Veteran 1 .25 and .22 calibers both have CZ unchoked barrels, I had to jump on it. I've been thinking of getting a .25 caliber gun for a while now and now seems to be a perfect time to get another Taipan Veteran. Yes, yes, I know... CZ barrel, LW barrel perform the same... but I've just always wanted a CZ barrel on my Taipans.

I also bought a tactical stock for the new gun but I might leave the laminate stock on it for a while.

I haven't really shot it yet but in stock configuration, untouched as it came out of the box, it shot the JSB King Heavy at 789 FPS/47 FPE. With just hammer spring adjustment, it maxed out at 879 FPS/58 FPE. The hammer spring was not the limiting factor as it reached maximum velocity way before it was even close to the point of not being able to cock anymore. I then backed out the hammer to 2% less velocity to get 860 FPS/55 FPE. I have a Huma Air regulator for the gun but I might just leave the stock reg in it for now especially since it's practically already set to the velocity that I want to shoot the King Heavy at. I'm not sure yet about the shot count, but reading other people's experiences with this gun, I'm estimating around 30 to 35 shots on the reg at the 55 FPE power level. One thing I observed is that the hammer spring on the .25 caliber is noticeably heavier to cock than the .22 caliber.

For those of you that have this same .25 gun, what was the regulator set at from the factory? My .22 came in with the regulator set at 135 bars. I replaced it with the Huma Air reg set to 95 bars for 30 FPE with the JSB Hades.

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Yeah, these guns are fun. Taipan regs are set where they are set, there are no markings, unless someone wrote it in marker on the reg when they installed it. I do find it odd they went to unchoked barrels on the vet 1's. Not that it matters much mine have choked barrels and shoot both slugs and pellets great. I found that if you want additional flexibility in power and shot count, adding a huma reg and plenum to the air tube will be very helpful. bad thing is the plenum will make the air tube stick out past the end of the barrel, so a huggett would need to be added to make the gun "look right". Enjoy this bad boy!
 
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Yeah, these guns are fun. Taipan regs are set where they are set, there are no markings, unless someone wrote it in marker on the reg when they installed it. I do find it odd they went to unchoked barrels on the vet 1's. Not that it matters much mine have choked barrels and shoot both slugs and pellets great. I found that if you want additional flexibility in power and shot count, adding a huma reg and plenum to the air tube will be very helpful. bad thing is the plenum will make the air tube stick out past the end of the barrel, so a huggett would need to be added to make the gun "look right". Enjoy this bad boy!
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Yes, I did a double take as well when Taipan told me about the barrels as I've always thought that the OG Veterans have a reputation for having very tight chokes and that the .25 guns have always had LW barrels, even the Ukrainian made guns. I asked for clarification and extra information and he told me that there really isn't any "rule" regarding barrels on the Taipan guns. He said it just depends on what the dealer wants and what the market asks for.

I pretty much gave up on slugs for now. The process is just not for me. I just want to be able to buy a few tins here and there and have it shoot accurately without a bunch of testing. It's actually one of the reasons I bought the .25 since the King Heavy is known to be an accurate projectile and at 55 FPE at the muzzle, it will still have 27 FPE at 100 meters. I might still try slugs in the .25 later on but the power down range is really approaching that of .22 rimfire shorts. My .22 Taipan is tuned way too low (30 FPE which I like for backyard) for any slugs I've tried. I bought the .25 to have it as a higher power option rather than just have it shoot medium weight for caliber projectiles like I have the .22 setup as.
 
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the difference in the choke between the first. 25 taipans , and the one I received 2 weeks ago is night n day.. they say unchoke but there is a slight choke any way.. but it shoots flawles with almost anything I have used In it . The other ones I had years ago at 90y they would only barely group with 25gr pellets.. anything else would simply suck . I really glad like you , to have purchased one of these last batch of .25 in standard is simply a keeper like the .22 mutant I got last month that has a CZ barrel to and also shoots almost anything flawless.. after having the opportunity to play with this solid barrel guns again.. I simply would not be buying another gun if it doesn't have a minimum of 15mm barrel thickness like these taipans have..
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MushroomPsyche said:
I just received earlier my Taipan Veteran 1 in .25 caliber! Pictured on top in the green laminate stock. I've had the .22 Long for 4 years and sold it a few months ago for the .22 Standard. I wasn't planning on buying another gun so soon but when I found out from a conversation with Taipan that the stock Talon Tunes had of the OG Veteran 1 .25 and .22 calibers both have CZ unchoked barrels, I had to jump on it. I've been thinking of getting a .25 caliber gun for a while now and now seems to be a perfect time to get another Taipan Veteran. Yes, yes, I know... CZ barrel, LW barrel perform the same... but I've just always wanted a CZ barrel on my Taipans.

I also bought a tactical stock for the new gun but I might leave the laminate stock on it for a while.

I haven't really shot it yet but in stock configuration, untouched as it came out of the box, it shot the JSB King Heavy at 789 FPS/47 FPE. With just hammer spring adjustment, it maxed out at 879 FPS/58 FPE. The hammer spring was not the limiting factor as it reached maximum velocity way before it was even close to the point of not being able to cock anymore. I then backed out the hammer to 2% less velocity to get 860 FPS/55 FPE. I have a Huma Air regulator for the gun but I might just leave the stock reg in it for now especially since it's practically already set to the velocity that I want to shoot the King Heavy at. I'm not sure yet about the shot count, but reading other people's experiences with this gun, I'm estimating around 30 to 35 shots on the reg at the 55 FPE power level. One thing I observed is that the hammer spring on the .25 caliber is noticeably heavier to cock than the .22 caliber.

For those of you that have this same .25 gun, what was the regulator set at from the factory? My .22 came in with the regulator set at 135 bars. I replaced it with the Huma Air reg set to 95 bars for 30 FPE with the JSB Hades.

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Yes, the stock regulator is ok but my issue with it is that it's quite fiddly to adjust. I also already have a Huma reg tester which is why I use it.

I just did a quick short shot string over the chronograph since the fill pressure is very close to where I think the regulator is set at. From the looks of it, the stock regulator is set at 145 bars. At this setting, I calculate the gun will get around 31 shots on the reg.
 
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Yes, the stock regulator is ok but my issue with it is that it's quite fiddly to adjust. I also already have a Huma reg tester which is why I use it.

I just did a quick short shot string over the chronograph since the fill pressure is very close to where I think the regulator is set at. From the looks of it, the stock regulator is set at 145 bars. At this setting, I calculate the gun will get around 31 shots on the reg.
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Reg testers are great when reinstalling a reg after service, and you know the set point you want. Frankly, I've always believed them to be slightly overrated when installing a new reg and seeking a good, balanced tune. In that case, you don't know where you're going until you get there! The reg set point and hammer tension have to be adjusted in unison, with a certain velocity as your goal, and you end up where that leads.
 
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I emailed Taipan and he said that this particular gun has the regulator set at 135 bars. The discrepancy I'm seeing when it fell off the regulator at around 145 bars might be the tolerances of the manometer. He said he'll send me another manometer to try. I love that customer service!

Some of you that commented don't care for numbers but I really like working with numbers as it gives me good anchor points for particular settings and I have a very good idea of how much to change (and in which direction) to achieve what I want in the least amount of time and effort. You tune your guns your way, I'll tune my guns my way. Nothing against the stock regulators on the Taipans. I just like HumaAir regs better.

For a new gun like this where it's still an unknown to me, I start the tune with the regulator set to a point above where I ultimately want it at. Luckily, these Taipan Veterans are almost always tuned much higher than where I want it so I can begin the tests immediately. To begin, I will make sure that the hammer spring tension is set a bit above the knee; - maybe 1% less than maximum velocity. This number is not really important because I'm going to be working with the initial testings off reg. We just have to make sure that the hammer spring tension is set to where the gun is shooting very close to maximum velocity for the particular projectile that is being tested.

I will then shoot the gun below the currently set regulator pressure and carefully making notes of what the fill pressure is after each shot. This way, it gives me a very good idea of what velocities I will get for a particular plenum pressure without having to go through the hassles of disassembling and re-assembling the gun repeatedly to blindly change the regulator until it hits my desired velocities. With the way I do it (shooting the gun off reg), I will just keep shooting until it shoots the velocity that I want to achieve. Once it does, I take note of that fill pressure number. This will be the same pressure in the plenum since it's shooting off reg. When I disassemble the gun, I change the reg pressure to that number and it usually gets me right on my desired velocity. It's not perfect but when I have to fine tune it, it's usually just one minor adjustment. This method is very good at getting me in the ballpark without having to disassemble the gun many times until I hit my target velocities. Having numbers to go by is very important.
 
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I'm still tuning this gun. I haven't touched the regulator yet but I'm looking to tune for around 840 FPS with the 33.95gr King Heavy. From what I see so far, I'm estimating a reg pressure around 128 bars.

I also installed the cheekpiece that came with the Tactical Stock. It looks a bit off with the green laminate stock but I really don't like the cold metal against my cheek. This was the green laminate stock that came with my Veteran Long (I sold that with the red laminate stock that came with my recent .22 Standard) and I found a renewed appreciation for this laminate stock. It also sets the .25 rifle from the .22 one that is in the Tactical Stock.

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I had the chance to tune the gun today. I set the Huma Air regulator just a smidge below 130 bars... so say 128 bars. One consideration that I make when setting regulator pressure (other than the balance of power and shot count) is how easy it is to see it on the manometer. My thinking is that by setting it to 128 bars, when I see the manometer show 130 bars, I know it's still on the reg but I need to fill it up.

The gun came tuned from the factory at 135 bars regulator. I don't have a way to measure the factory reg so I'm going by what Taipan told me about this gun. With that stock setting, the highest velocity it got was 880 FPS with the King Heavy 33.95gr.

With the Huma Air set to 128 bars, the highest velocity the gun got to was 850 FPS with the King Heavy. I then tuned it down to 835 FPS with the hammer spring tension. The estimated shot count at this tune is 34 shots on the reg from a 250 bar fill.
 
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I finally had the chance tonight to do the initial sighting in of this rifle since I was able to sort the scope situation with it. It's the first time I shot this rifle shouldered and it has a noticeable kick compared to even a .22 at 40 FPE. I have it shooting the 33.95gr JSB King Heavy at 52 FPE.

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Here are the final forms (for now) for these two rifles. .22 caliber on top with the night scope, and .25 caliber at the bottom. Both have unchoked CZ barrels.

The .22 has the Huma regulator set to 88 bars shooting the 15.89gr Hades at 883 FPS. Gets a smidge over 60 shots from a full fill at 27 FPE.

The .25 has the Huma regulator set to 128 bars shooting the 33.95gr King Heavy at 835 FPS. Gets a smidge over 30 shots from a full fill at 52 FPE.

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