I have been officially shut down!

[Peashooter]

What ever the reason i would first take a personal conversation to see if there is a solution to be found, but i will admit i find most people to be less solution oriented than i am.
I do take pride in saying compromise is not at all something i like to do, but i have to be real and admit i do those all the time.
But of course there is also degrees of compromise, for instance on the subject of voting i have not done that in +30 years, but it look like i might actually be able to do that come next election ( new sort of relevant party emerged )

Another funny thing i have noticed, i can compliment a woman / girl in many languages, but it seem that these days a compliment is something that violate girls / women,,,,, not all but far too many i feel.
So here in Denmark for instance to be able to do my thing, i do it in French / Spanish / Italian / Japanese and so on as people here are most often clueless outside of the English and German taught in school.

So if i hold the door for a girl / woman i might say Apre vous madmoicelle ( i hope i spelled that right CUZ i do not write French as that language too is entirely self taught ) and then the girl most often look at me as if i just fell out of a tree.
Also only learned to write in English with me getting online, CUZ i did not attend very many English classes in school either.

 

[Vetmx]

The typical American that uses law enforcement to snuff someone else's joy are the types that usually egregiously bypass laws that inconvenience THEM. Then when they find themselves perturbed by someone else getting kicks on their own property,, minding their own business, effecting them ZERO. They use the law to the letter to snarch that tiny last bit of joy and freedom from them. Doing things like that is the antithesis of the American way of life.

Typically the philosophy we live by is, your freedoms are unlimited until they encroach on mine or effect me or my property. A pellet gun quieter than a pneumatic tool doesn't effect them. At all. Especially someone who exercises safe practices.


What .20cal should do, and what I've been doing. Is using a nail gun, air hammer whenever I see the offending law abuser that called them on me and lied. There is no limit on loud tools between 8am and 10pm most places. He needs to practice some aggressive obedience.

That is one way to look at it and not entirely wrong. But there’s also another thing to consider. We all have ATV’s and dirt bikes where I live. We all can fire them up and ride off to wherever we want and nobody cares. But when the kid goes round and around in his yard and then his dad takes the muffler off, it now attracts attention. And generally it’s not positive attention. I hear people around where I live shooting from time to time. If I had a neighbor doing it all the time, even I would get annoyed. Like I said in my first post, we either have to be slick and considerate to enjoy the things we love or see how the this is my property and I’ll do what I want thing works out for you.

 

[.20calguy]

The typical American that uses law enforcement to snuff someone else's joy are the types that usually egregiously bypass laws that inconvenience THEM. Then when they find themselves perturbed by someone else getting kicks on their own property,, minding their own business, effecting them ZERO. They use the law to the letter to snarch that tiny last bit of joy and freedom from them. Doing things like that is the antithesis of the American way of life.

Typically the philosophy we live by is, your freedoms are unlimited until they encroach on mine or effect me or my property. A pellet gun quieter than a pneumatic tool doesn't effect them. At all. Especially someone who exercises safe practices.


What .20cal should do, and what I've been doing. Is using a nail gun, air hammer whenever I see the offending law abuser that called them on me and lied. There is no limit on loud tools between 8am and 10pm most places. He needs to practice some aggressive obedience.

I now have two run ins with the law and four alltogether. I was taken to court as a boy accused of shooting mailboxs with my Sheridan. That wasn't true,and was thrown out, now this.
I'm also a two time offender for playing my guitar to loud.
I haven't set my drum set up yet since we bought the place.

 

[RabbitofCaerbannog]

That is one way to look at it and not entirely wrong. But there’s also another thing to consider. We all have ATV’s and dirt bikes where I live. We all can fire them up and ride off to wherever we want and nobody cares. But when the kid goes round and around in his yard and then his dad takes the muffler off, it now attracts attention. And generally it’s not positive attention. I hear people around where I live shooting from time to time. If I had a neighbor doing it all the time, even I would get annoyed. Like I said in my first post, we either have to be slick and considerate to enjoy the things we love or see how the this is my property and I’ll do what I want thing works out for you.

The issue I have is I attempted to talk to these people, their immediate reaction was to film me and act like I was some lunatic approaching them. I'm not an aggressive or disrespectful type. I wanted to understand what the real issue was.. but, they didn't want to. They lied to the police and accused me of doing something. Serious. Which resulted in my main hobby being taking away from me ON MY OWN PROPERTY. They claimed I was "scaring their dog" on a Saturday afternoon at 3pm. These people routinely do mortar fireworks and rev their open pipe M3 in their driveway. They also have a car with an insanely loud subwoofer system.

I've had enough taken from. Me. I'm done. To boot these are "parolees" fresh in from Venezuela. I'm not okay with this. They come here, abuse the system, then use them system to bite the hand that feeds them. I'd be steamed with anyone who didn't have a legitimate gripe and called the police under false pretense. Rather than speak to me. The other factor was just a garnish on top. I give the benefit of the doubt that .20xal was not doing the equivalent of stripping the muffler of a 2stroke and going nuts. I assume, an adult man who has the means and achieved enough success in life to own a plot of land large Enough to have a 550ft buffer to the road would also have the decency and common sense to practice his hobby in a safe in respectful manner.

As for me, I had a giant berm, a catch box, a moderated .177 down tuned to be quiet. I don't shoot anything loud or high power at my home, and I don't shoot outside a very small envelope to prevent any accidents . No, they went beyond reason .

 

[.20calguy]

What ever the reason i would first take a personal conversation to see if there is a solution to be found, but i will admit i find most people to be less solution oriented than i am.
I do take pride in saying compromise is not at all something i like to do, but i have to be real and admit i do those all the time.
But of course there is also degrees of compromise, for instance on the subject of voting i have not done that in +30 years, but it look like i might actually be able to do that come next election ( new sort of relevant party emerged )

Another funny thing i have noticed, i can compliment a woman / girl in many languages, but it seem that these days a compliment is something that violate girls / women,,,,, not all but far too many i feel.
So here in Denmark for instance to be able to do my thing, i do it in French / Spanish / Italian / Japanese and so on as people here are most often clueless outside of the English and German taught in school.

So if i hold the door for a girl / woman i might say Apre vous madmoicelle ( i hope i spelled that right CUZ i do not write French as that language too is entirely self taught ) and then the girl most often look at me as if i just fell out of a tree.
Also only learned to write in English with me getting online, CUZ i did not attend very many English classes in school either.

I say to them, chivalry is not dead.

 

[.20calguy]

The issue I have is I attempted to talk to these people, their immediate reaction was to film me and act like I was some lunatic approaching them. I'm not an aggressive or disrespectful type. I wanted to understand what the real issue was.. but, they didn't want to. They lied to the police and accused me of doing something. Serious. Which resulted in my main hobby being taking away from me ON MY OWN PROPERTY. They claimed I was "scaring their dog" on a Saturday afternoon at 3pm. These people routinely do mortar fireworks and rev their open pipe M3 in their driveway. They also have a car with an insanely loud subwoofer system.

I've had enough taken from. Me. I'm done. To boot these are "parolees" fresh in from Venezuela. I'm not okay with this. They come here, abuse the system, then use them system to bite the hand that feeds them. I'd be steamed with anyone who didn't have a legitimate gripe and called the police under false pretense. Rather than speak to me. The other factor was just a garnish on top. I give the benefit of the doubt that .20xal was not doing the equivalent of stripping the muffler of a 2stroke and going nuts. I assume, an adult man who has the means and achieved enough success in life to own a plot of land large Enough to have a 550ft buffer to the road would also have the decency and common sense to practice his hobby in a safe in respectful manner.

As for me, I had a giant berm, a catch box, a moderated .177 down tuned to be quiet. I don't shoot anything loud or high power at my home, and I don't shoot outside a very small envelope to prevent any accidents . No, they went beyond reason .

I remember reading your story and a bunch of others recently. That was the day the officer first came, and all those stories were fresh on my mind.

 

[.20calguy]

That is one way to look at it and not entirely wrong. But there’s also another thing to consider. We all have ATV’s and dirt bikes where I live. We all can fire them up and ride off to wherever we want and nobody cares. But when the kid goes round and around in his yard and then his dad takes the muffler off, it now attracts attention. And generally it’s not positive attention. I hear people around where I live shooting from time to time. If I had a neighbor doing it all the time, even I would get annoyed. Like I said in my first post, we either have to be slick and considerate to enjoy the things we love or see how the this is my property and I’ll do what I want thing works out for you.

You think I'm their hit list?

 

[Treefrog]

Dang... I'm sorry to hear of this. Aside from encouraging you to search for ways to make the offending people move, I got nothing for you.

Sorry,

J~

 

[gendoc]

thats sux, either try suppression or indoor shooting if you have a place to do it.

 

[gendoc]

i was born and raised in Lafourche Parish, port of fourchon to be exact.
all i can tell you is that POS must be a foreigner to that awesome part of GOD's country......

 

[Hobbyman2007]

Sad day indeed. I live in a very rural area and just a few years ago we had plenty of places to go and shoot. Now nowhere within 40 miles. I can relate. I’ve recently joined a shooting range and the members ship has grown from just a small group of less than 50 to over three hundred in just the last year. I live in a free country, that is when I’m willing to pay for it.

 

[elh0102]

Most jurisdictions are adding air guns to the definition of firearms. So be it. We are our own worst enemy. Our obsession with power could lead to no other result. Only to add to the beurocracy, but perhaps we will come to a power-oriented approach to regulation, under which a certain fpe is subject to a lower level of regulation. But, when I see what is happening, and I think of the market's quest for more power, I'm reminded of my mother's oft-cited phrase, "what were you thinking?"

 

[RabbitofCaerbannog]

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Most jurisdictions are adding air guns to the definition of firearms. So be it. We are our own worst enemy. Our obsession with power could lead to no other result. Only to add to the beurocracy, but perhaps we will come to a power-oriented approach to regulation, under which a certain fpe is subject to a lower level of regulation. But, when I see what is happening, and I think of the market's quest for more power, I'm reminded of my mother's oft-cited phrase, "what were you thinking?"

No thanks. They can keep that on the other side of the pond.

 

[SilentSquirrel]

Unfortunately so. The allure of a van by the river has never been so enticing.

Just when you think you are safe & settled, in some jerk will come along and put up NO PARKING signs

 

[RabbitofCaerbannog]

Just when you think you are safe & settled, in some jerk will come along and put up NO PARKING signs

Unfortunately he wasn't wise enough to put up "No Shooting "The Man" signs first.


They need to bring back "Code Duello"

 

[Vetmx]

The issue I have is I attempted to talk to these people, their immediate reaction was to film me and act like I was some lunatic approaching them. I'm not an aggressive or disrespectful type. I wanted to understand what the real issue was.. but, they didn't want to. They lied to the police and accused me of doing something. Serious. Which resulted in my main hobby being taking away from me ON MY OWN PROPERTY. They claimed I was "scaring their dog" on a Saturday afternoon at 3pm. These people routinely do mortar fireworks and rev their open pipe M3 in their driveway. They also have a car with an insanely loud subwoofer system.

I've had enough taken from. Me. I'm done. To boot these are "parolees" fresh in from Venezuela. I'm not okay with this. They come here, abuse the system, then use them system to bite the hand that feeds them. I'd be steamed with anyone who didn't have a legitimate gripe and called the police under false pretense. Rather than speak to me. The other factor was just a garnish on top. I give the benefit of the doubt that .20xal was not doing the equivalent of stripping the muffler of a 2stroke and going nuts. I assume, an adult man who has the means and achieved enough success in life to own a plot of land large Enough to have a 550ft buffer to the road would also have the decency and common sense to practice his hobby in a safe in respectful manner.

As for me, I had a giant berm, a catch box, a moderated .177 down tuned to be quiet. I don't shoot anything loud or high power at my home, and I don't shoot outside a very small envelope to prevent any accidents . No, they went beyond reason .

I got angry just reading those first two paragraphs. You are a more restrained person than I. But I know the type you are talking about. Very frustrating to be in that situation. I just think some people get great pleasure and satisfaction controlling what others do.

 

[Vetmx]

You think I'm their hit list?
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Oh no, people having fun. Not good. Call the cops!

 

[RabbitofCaerbannog]

I got angry just reading those first two paragraphs. You are a more restrained person than I. But I know the type you are talking about. Very frustrating to be in that situation. I just think some people get great pleasure and satisfaction controlling what others do.

This is EXACTLY what cooks me. I've NEVER had the desire to piss on someone else just because I might not particularly appreciate what they're doing. I don't like rap or want to hear them scream by at 2am... I know the sound of that car well. Routinely running 90mph down the 35mph road just outside my street. Screaming twin charged m3. He even chose the most obnoxious blow off valve imaginable. Mortar fireworks when they feel it's fun. New years they let off 2 full mag dumps from something with the deep tone and high pitch echo of a .30 cal. Long after their endless mortar shells and rockets had already exhausted most people. Routinely have get togethers outback on work nights. And EVERYONE endures it. Then this.. it hasn't been easy to not act in some way.
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If they had a reasonable gripe. Hell, even if they didn't and just asked me I might compromise. But they didn't. They refused. They lied.

 

[Airgun-hobbyist]

I'd suggest following the law to the letter (including the footage from edge of the road requirements, or open carrying rifles around your property that can be construed as brandishing) so they can't get a warrant and seize you and all your stuff, because they will if given lawful right to. Also, if your neighbor's are filing false police reports, tell that officer that fact and tell him you are victim of that felony and of the felony of "swatting" by those offender's.

 

[RabbitofCaerbannog]

I'd suggest following the law to the letter (including the footage requirements) so they can't get a warrant and seize you and all your stuff, because they will if given lawful right to. Also, if your neighbor's are filing false police reports, tell that officer that fact and tell him you are victim of that felony and of the felony of "swatting" by those offender's.

It's all available on body cam. I did state that fact. That she filmed me while concealing herself in the woods. I attempted to make contact for a conversation without aggression or expression of anger. Informed them that the only complaint of the party was her claiming that the suppressed .177 which the only audible report was the spring and hammer, and the pellet striking paper and the cardboard catch box filled with fleece and rubberized mulch. I pointed out the trajectory is impossible of the claimed "pellet sized holes". No projectiles in the siding. I addressed point by point. And they did nothing but appease her and basically tell me "shoot at other times, but if they report again we'll have to act against you".
I have the case no and the officers card.