I'm 61 and like things a little simpler I guess. My Hatsan Flashpup is a nice gun and very very accurate. Just getting tired of the hand pump so going back to a springer or piston break barrel. I don't want to buy any more gear like a bottle and compressor for the PCP and the expense that goes with this. I'm thinking the simpler world of break barrels is more for me. Been looking at some of the Hatsan offerings in .25 and .30. I've hunted small game my entire life with an air rifle. I started out in the big time with a Sheridan 5mm pump in my youth. I wore the barrel out on that one. Pumping 8 to 10 times sure beats pumping 50 to 100 times. Of course once the PCP is pumped up multiple shots are the reward. I'm just tired of getting there. Anyone else decide the same way?
I'M TIRED OF PUMPING UP MY PCP/ FLASHPUP
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Have considered a pcp many times over the years, even had some good friends let me borrow theirs on ocassion. While they are fun and easy if you can afford all the accessories, I find them boring. If I need to shoot at a hundred yards or more I have specific tools to do that well. For distances within 50/60 yds my TX is all I need and it doesnt require all the add ons, but...to each his own, if everyone had and did the exact same thing life would be quite boring!!!
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I'm with you. PCP guns have alot to offer but pumping them up to get there gets old. I too don't want to have to invest in a compressor and other expensive accessories either. Recently I had to top off the pressure on all four tires on my truck with a hand pump and I told my self I would hate to have to do that every time I wanted to shoot.
Good idea going back to breakbarrels. I also shoot break barrel air rifles and they fulfill all my air gunning needs. Since you are planning on getting one I would recommend the Weihrauch brand. I've been really pleased with them. They manufacture nice break barrel guns as well as underlevers.
Good idea going back to breakbarrels. I also shoot break barrel air rifles and they fulfill all my air gunning needs. Since you are planning on getting one I would recommend the Weihrauch brand. I've been really pleased with them. They manufacture nice break barrel guns as well as underlevers.
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My favorite break barrel is the Diana RWS 54 Air King. They have advertised a model 56 but can't seem to find inventory anywhere. I love these side lever guns.
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i understand completely, although i went the opposite way. i resisted the desire for a pcp because i didn't want the expense and hassle of filling one, and then the price of ammo for my powder burners sort of exploded and they became much more expensive to shoot. i was lucky enough to find free refills not far away and bought a gun and a big tank. way more than i had dreamed of spending, but every time i skip a trip to the range and shoot the pcp instead, i save $50-200 or more.
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Right there with you, pumping sucks. One of the guns here is a P-rod. Only has a 4cuin air tube. If any of my shooting buddys had a pump I would try it just to see how it was. Now days at 67 I use a couple CF bottles.
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Tune your PCP down to the power you'll get with the springer you decide to buy and very likely you will get close to one pump per shot,...that will put things into prospective;
brake the barrel for one shot over and over again or put the same effort and time for a bunch of consecutive shots,
with the PCP you will still have a shorter, lighter gun that is easier to shoot accurately and can be way more quiet then any springer, with the magazine for quick follow up shot
brake the barrel for one shot over and over again or put the same effort and time for a bunch of consecutive shots,
with the PCP you will still have a shorter, lighter gun that is easier to shoot accurately and can be way more quiet then any springer, with the magazine for quick follow up shot
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I got tired doing it repeatedly to tune my guns. So I got a yong heng. Got tired of running it several times a day to fill my pistols, so got a tank. Life is much quieter and simpler now, lol. Of course I keep one multi pump and one springer, but 6 pcp's
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Understand the frustration of hand pumps. Did it for a while. At my age it was hard and only weighing 130 pounds didn't help. But using a springer did not fit my needs. So bought a 12 volt travel pump to go with my pcp. Good enough for my shooting. BTW Hats off to you if can shoulder a springer and get your shot off quickly. I think that is hard and I never mastered it. Also I dealt with multiple targets (pest running together).
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I pumped my PCPs for awhile but then the old injuries to my shoulders and arms started bringing the pain again. So, I purchased a small tank. Filling constantly at the paintball shop was OK but I finally broke down and got a Yong Heng to save some cash. I never looked back after that. I have many PCP guns, both Crosman conversions and purchased guns and I even kept three springers just in case. After the compressor purchase I immediately started shooting twice as much so I really didn't save any money though.
Yes, one has to scrounge up a bit over $300, for the compressor, but they last for several years and make filling a dream so you can shoot all you want without messing your body up.
Springers are just as hard on the body as pumping so either way you will have to deal with it.
Yes, one has to scrounge up a bit over $300, for the compressor, but they last for several years and make filling a dream so you can shoot all you want without messing your body up.
Springers are just as hard on the body as pumping so either way you will have to deal with it.
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Hahaha, if you got tired of handpumping a flash I wander how long it will take you to get tired of breaking the barrel and carrying a 10 # gun before scope that gives you a rainbow trajectory at 500 fps with a .30 pellet
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I had a 25 cal break barrel. Hard to cock and too much drop after 50 yards. Pcp's are the way to go. I think a high power 22 break barrel would be better than a 25 cal.
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Agree with SD and AirArcher, I've a Benjamin NP Trail XL .22 that takes tremendous effort to cock, I shudder to think what it takes for that Hatsan "Elephant Gun" .30. Please re-consider all those suggesting the Yong Heng, I listened, now enjoy 6 PCPs, like LongGun, while the Benjamin stays on the rack. WM
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Lets look at it this way;
Lets' take 10 shots with a Hatsan .30 break barrel and 10 shots with a Flashpup,.......I'm more then confident that the combined effort is way more with the Break barrel.
Pumping back up for 10 shots is nothing, breaking the barrel and handling a 10 # gun before scope for 10 shots I'm quite sure it's not all that fun
And all this without even taking into consideration actually hitting your intended target
Lets' take 10 shots with a Hatsan .30 break barrel and 10 shots with a Flashpup,.......I'm more then confident that the combined effort is way more with the Break barrel.
Pumping back up for 10 shots is nothing, breaking the barrel and handling a 10 # gun before scope for 10 shots I'm quite sure it's not all that fun
And all this without even taking into consideration actually hitting your intended target
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So, I take it the "I'll get my exercise when pumping my rifle up!" didnt work out as planned? 
No judgment, pumping got old for me after just 2 weeks. I went out and got a SCUBA tank and never looked back. Realistically, 90% of my shooting is inside 25 yards so a refined Co2 rifle works just as well for my needs...
No judgment, pumping got old for me after just 2 weeks. I went out and got a SCUBA tank and never looked back. Realistically, 90% of my shooting is inside 25 yards so a refined Co2 rifle works just as well for my needs...
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Same here.
I had been interested in PCPs for some time, but ammo shortages and high prices put me over the edge. Being able to shoot in my backyard is a huge bonus too!
Hand pumping is no big deal either. I currently have two PCPs and can hand pump them both quite easily, but I did also buy a compressor with an auto shutoff. I can set it up at my shooting table. It pumps up my gun while I walk down to switch out targets.
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