Immersive Optics

[bigHUN]

these from amazon

the problem with the low profile rail is that I cannot find a nut that is shorter, too much sticking out from the rail. I don't want to buy a whole box of nuts because I need only one.

 

[JungleShooter]

these from amazon

the problem with the low profile rail is that I cannot find a nut that is shorter, too much sticking out from the rail. I don't want to buy a whole box of nuts because I need only one.

Attila,

I hear you. It's either buying that box of nuts — or the following scenario:



I just installed a Tactacam, on a compact 3-12x44 scope, on a pistol — three things that were clearly NOT made for each other.

I either did not have enough space under the Tactacam for my thumb to cock the hammer.

Or everytime I shoot the gun without the Tactacam (FTS), my eye would be so close as the make the hammer strike on my eye.  



➔ So, I had to install a riser rail, and even then the Tactacam didn't fit — or my thumb — or my eye....



After much debating between the practical part of my brain and the part that said "You must keep everything in pristine condition like all the guys on AGN!" — my desire to go shooting won out and I listened to the practical side of the brain.





I TOOK A DREMEL and cut off an inch of raiser rail.

And I groud off 1/8" off the 25moa Hawke mounts.

And I'm about to take the dremel to the raiser rail bolts and chop off what's not essential.





So, Attila, what's it gonna be? Box of nuts — or dremel...?  


Matthias 

 

[dasman]

these from amazon

the problem with the low profile rail is that I cannot find a nut that is shorter, too much sticking out from the rail. I don't want to buy a whole box of nuts because I need only one.

Attila,

I hear you. It's either buying that box of nuts — or the following scenario:



I just installed a Tactacam, on a compact 3-12x44 scope, on a pistol — three things that were clearly NOT made for each other.

I either did not have enough space under the Tactacam for my thumb to cock the hammer.

Or everytime I shoot the gun without the Tactacam (FTS), my eye would be so close as the make the hammer strike on my eye.  



➔ So, I had to install a riser rail, and even then the Tactacam didn't fit — or my thumb — or my eye....



After much debating between the practical part of my brain and the part that said "You must keep everything in pristine condition like all the guys on AGN!" — my desire to go shooting won out and I listened to the practical side of the brain.





I TOOK A DREMEL and cut off an inch of raiser rail.

And I groud off 1/8" off the 25moa Hawke mounts.

And I'm about to take the dremel to the raiser rail bolts and chop off what's not essential.





So, Attila, what's it gonna be? Box of nuts — or dremel...?  


Matthias

:^)

 

[bigHUN]

HaHaaa you guys late, this picture is from Aug.11th and all my uploaded pictures are altered in meantime.

and you see that black F ugly lock-nut? that is on my L2 right now, but every time I take a gun to my hands that black F nut is poking my eyes, I still want to put some nicer designer solution there

 

[bigHUN]

Every visit to my shooting range I am altering in between the two raiser blocks, the lower is low the higher is high !!!!

but look at these screws for fastening, aren't these beauties? but on the wrong riser....

 

[Hobbyman2007]

Well now that looks like a much better solution to the big nuts . I’m still on the fence on if I should get one or not. I’ll try hunting with the vector for now , if I’m not happy with how it works . I’ll probably go the IO road.

 

[bigHUN]

Well now that looks like a much better solution to the big nuts . I’m still on the fence on if I should get one or not. I’ll try hunting with the vector for now , if I’m not happy with how it works . I’ll probably go the IO road.

Second week in September I go backpacking to Manitoulin Island and in the way back S.Ste Marie and through Sudbury Hwy 400 South. If you happen to be around we can meet for a coffee. I can give you the scope for couple weeks, don't buy it yet try it first.

 

[JungleShooter]

Second week in September I go backpacking to Manitoulin Island and in the way back S.Ste Marie and through Sudbury Hwy 400 South.

If you happen to be around we can meet for a coffee.

I can give you the scope for couple weeks, don't buy it yet try it first.

Attila,

you are one cool airgunner!  

And AGN is one cool community!

Matthias

 

[Larcat]

Well now that looks like a much better solution to the big nuts . I’m still on the fence on if I should get one or not. I’ll try hunting with the vector for now , if I’m not happy with how it works . I’ll probably go the IO road.

Second week in September I go backpacking to Manitoulin Island and in the way back S.Ste Marie and through Sudbury Hwy 400 South. If you happen to be around we can meet for a coffee. I can give you the scope for couple weeks, don't buy it yet try it first.

If you like that area, check out Killarney provincial park.

Some of the best backpacking I've ever done, and a loop to boot!

 

[bigHUN]

If you like that area, check out Killarney provincial park.

Some of the best backpacking I've ever done, and a loop to boot!

Yes Killarney is on the list for two nights sleepover, the second day we go to The Crack

 

[Hobbyman2007]

Attila , 

thats a great offer but I’m heading out on the 18th for my yearly camping trip/ hunting and fishing. If you haven’t hiked through those parts before be ready to be blown away. It’s only a few hours from here and I rarely get out to those parts but I really should make the time. I’ll be two and a half hours North of Sudbury off HWY 144 , in some of the best pickerel/walleye fishing lakes I’ve ever seen . Not to mention small game opens on the 15th. One day we will have to get a coffee. 

 

[Keyman62421]

Just bought from Drew's lab. 10x40 classic MD. $336 delivered. ( $30 post) a real bargain if it's as good as others! I've wanted prismatic for over a year. Wouldn't pay $6-800.

Give you follow up when I use it for a week or 2. Be aware this is an AIRGUN ONLY scope. .7" eye relief taken up by the "boot".

 

[bigHUN]

..heading out on the 18th ...two and a half hours North of Sudbury off HWY 144....

I will be in your neighbourhood Sep. 6-10th if you can grab some time. I've been driving through the area from Toronto to S.Ste Marie on Hwy 400 several years I was competing in archery Field.

 

[bigHUN]

Streloc Pro, no IO brand in the database.

What other Brand I can use as a closest for reticle markings? Assumin the fixed optics is FFP and I have the 14x50.

I would like to set it at 50 or 60 and range with reticle.

 

[Mballistics]

Streloc Pro, no IO brand in the database.

What other Brand I can use as a closest for reticle markings? Assumin the fixed optics is FFP and I have the 14x50.

I would like to set it at 50 or 60 and range with reticle.

any FFP scope from the list with mildot retucle will work

 

[bigHUN]

yes Thanks, all my other scopes are SFP and my mind is set for turning turrets, this will be fun calculating the lines in reticle

 

[Scouty]

I got a 5x30 IO yesterday. I only got to loosely mount it to a Classic Leshiy & a P-rod & spent some time scanning anywhere from 12' to over a hundred yards.

It has the quick target acquisition hunting reticle. 

With the diopter adjusted I was able to read book titles from 12' away. Yes that's feet, not yards.

Barely have to turn parallax wheel to focus between 15 & 75 yards. 

FOV is huge. I love large FOV scopes but this one another level. 

Glass is good enough for me. Bright with a slight yellow tint. Slight hazy ring around the edges but with the large FOV I have to look for it.

With the installed MOA mount I couldn't get it far enough back on my Leshiy but it also blocked the breech on my Prod. Fortunately there are shorter & longer mounts included that will work better with each rifle but I didn't have time to play with those before heading out of town. 

As such I'm reluctant to comment on eye box but it seems pretty good. This optic is probably a better fit for the P-rod than the Leshiy & if I put one on that rifle I'll likely look for the lowest dovetail ring that still allows the optic to clear the magazine. 

This is a short eye relief scope & I believe that leads to it not being a great choice for both eyes open scanning & shooting. 

Looking forward to taking this one in the woods & seeing what it's like to follow a squirrel at 5x with a scope with a FOV more like a 3x scope.

 

[Mballistics]

I got a 5x30 IO yesterday. I only got to loosely mount it to a Classic Leshiy & a P-rod & spent some time scanning anywhere from 12' to over a hundred yards.

It has the quick target acquisition hunting reticle. 

With the diopter adjusted I was able to read book titles from 12' away. Yes that's feet, not yards.

Barely have to turn parallax wheel to focus between 15 & 75 yards. 

FOV is huge. I love large FOV scopes but this one another level. 

Glass is good enough for me. Bright with a slight yellow tint. Slight hazy ring around the edges but with the large FOV I have to look for it.

With the installed MOA mount I couldn't get it far enough back on my Leshiy but it also blocked the breech on my Prod. Fortunately there are shorter & longer mounts included that will work better with each rifle but I didn't have time to play with those before heading out of town. 

As such I'm reluctant to comment on eye box but it seems pretty good. This optic is probably a better fit for the P-rod than the Leshiy & if I put one on that rifle I'll likely look for the lowest dovetail ring that still allows the optic to clear the magazine. 

This is a short eye relief scope & I believe that leads to it not being a great choice for both eyes open scanning & shooting. 

Looking forward to taking this one in the woods & seeing what it's like to follow a squirrel at 5x with a scope with a FOV more like a 3x scope.

won't be a problem for Leshiy, the scope can be moved far back using the longest rail included in the set, two locknut is enough to fix the rail, this is from the manual. Drawback - makes the gun set up longer when folded. 

As for P-rod, considering they come with dovetail rail, I think you need these https://www.amazon.com/WestHunter-Adjustable-Picatinny-Accessories-Riflescope/dp/B08CBSSBRS/ref=sr_1_6?crid=BZTMPW5MVISJ&dchild=1&keywords=dovetail+to+picatinny+rail+adapter&qid=1630182435&sprefix=dovetail+to+picatinny+%2Caps%2C271&sr=8-6

 

[Larcat]

Immersive 5x24 and 5x30 next to each other.

24 is noticeably less bulky and definitely has better depth of field. Haven't tested side by side in low light yet.

 

[NickT]

I was considering both of these scopes, so I will be very interested to hear your feedback.


On paper, the weight difference didn’t seem like much (16g with the mounts). Does that seem true?

Thanks