Incessant design flaws.

[Spartan]

Not being able to tell when the airgun is cocked/loaded. A couple of my FX guns I can feel part of the hammer spring adjuster to tell if it’s cocked (if it can wiggle a bit it’s uncocked), but most have no indication at all.

And airguns with no safety catch installed. There was a list of reasons I sold my OG Cricket, but lack of a safety was at the top.

 

[bucketboy]

Mine are always too big

Hopefully your hands and not your pistol grip

Bb

 

[Northwoods22]

My gripe is springer specific.

Recoil stop pins/screws either in the scope ring or in a separate recoil stop block that are substantially smaller in diameter than the size of the corresponding holes in the scope base on the rifle. Even on my heavier mild recoiling HW98 the small sized stop pin that came with the rings was battering the hell out of the back of the hole after just a few rounds as well as damaging the pin while still not stopping rearward creep. I ended up machining a stainless steel bushing to bring the pin up to size to match the hole diameter, which solved the problem. However, not everyone owns a lathe or has the ability to make their own bushings by other means.

If the scope ring and stop block manufacturers simply included 2 or 3 different stop screws that match the diameter of the stop pin holes on the most popular springer brands (Weihrauch, Diana, etc), that would solve the problem. I'd gladly pay a few bucks more for this feature.

 

[cavedweller]

Hopefully your hands and not your pistol grip

Bb

unfortunately i have small hands so grips from FORM are monster big to me... and darn it... they look soooo nice

 

[Firewalker]

I don't have many gripes personally, I'm free to not buy any gun that has issues or designs that bother me.

As shown above, we have a wide preference where there is no unanimous agreement on any single issue.

My biggest gripe is parts availability.

 

[SteveV]

Well, for me, it's not making a bolt action or side lever reversable for leftys - it really chaps my ass that the new FX (DRS?) with the air resevoir over the barrel doesn't come in a lefty version. And isn't Frederick Axxelson a lefty?

If Crosman/Benjamin can do it, there is no excuse for other manufacturesrs to not do it.

 

[Plink Floyd]

Its putting a big cutout right in the middle of the top rail and having a little 10 round mag dictate how high your scope is mounted.
Magazines should go in the bottom and the scope shouldnt bridge the breach.

 

[kayaker]

My biggest gripe is all the manufactures that don't list the size of o-rings for their guns. Then searching countless hours for the right size !

 

[Peashooter]

I have discovered a design error on the Epic airguns Two. ( Cylinder edition )

That being filled all the way in the front, i presume it would look stupid sitting at the bench shooting while tethered.
The fill port should have been made as part of the regulator part and then have fill port opposite side of gauge.

 

[Firewalker]

My biggest gripe is all the manufactures that don't list the size of o-rings for their guns. Then searching countless hours for the right size !

It's really not hard to measure

My biggest gripe is all the manufactures that don't list the size of o-rings for their guns. Then searching countless hours for the right size !

FX does....

 

[kayaker]

It's really not hard to measure


FX does....

FX does, Edgun does, as some others a plus too them, but I'd rather have them on hand and ready to go when I need them than waiting for them. Also some people have severe tremors like me which makes it near impossible to do. It's not that hard too list them in the schematic.

 

[Peashooter]

I cant even find a parts drawing for my Vulcan 3 at AGTs home page, that is also pretty bad.

I do have a complete set of O-rings for my Maverick, that's a big + for FX in my book, i do think some compile overhaul O-ring sets for other brands,,,,, which i also appreciate when they cant just take note on the makers site.

 

[rcs9250]

Having been a maintenance tech in one way or another, amongst other skills, one thoroughly frustrating thing with airguns is the lack of a 100% inclusive parts explosion for airguns, not just a portion of the gun, EVERYTHING. And then a cross section view of the assembled gun. In the machine tool industry that was extremely common in everything I worked on.
And most manuals, if there even is one, in print or online, typically suck. It’s almost like manufacturers don’t want you to know what’s inside or how to fix them and we have to rely on the internet for multiple “how to tune” videos.
I also clicked on nearly every item members mentioned that are in need improvement.
Fill probe standardization… ain’t never going to see that at this stage of the game. I just keep them all in the same place. I just need to make a gadget that is strapped or held to my SCBA that holds all of them.
And degassing needs to be made easy and safe. There’s a device used on machine tools called an accumulator. They hold various pressures of nitrogen, often around 1000 psi. One afternoon I walked in on a tech that was about to perform an unplanned suicide by trying to unscrew the wrong component. He was not properly trained and thought he knew how to do it by semi observing someone else do it. If nothing else is in an airgun manual, at least have instructions on proper de-gasssing.

 

[rcs9250]

I cant even find a parts drawing for my Vulcan 3 at AGTs home page, that is also pretty bad.

I do have a complete set of O-rings for my Maverick, that's a big + for FX in my book, i do think some compile overhaul O-ring sets for other brands,,,,, which i also appreciate when they cant just take note on the makers site.

Man I ditto that. There’s no good reason why an airgun manufacturer can’t have an O ring size listed for each O ring. I highly doubt an airgun manufacturer makes a bastard size O ring just so they can rape us on an O ring. Just give us a size so we can source it from an O ring supplier. Sometimes a metric and SAE O ring can nearly be the same size but isn’t and makes a repair that much more difficult by guessing at the size, not to mention the rubber compound and the durometer spec.

 

[Firewalker]

Sorry guys, it's called planned obsolescence...

We are NOT your average airgun owners, we are enthusiasts and only top shelf companies understand that we will buy several guns and shoot them all!

The manufactures that make/sell mid level and below (yes, Crosman too) want you to buy another gun instead of fixing your old gun.

 

[boresnake]

Those cheek risers. I don't have a problem adjusting to most wood stocks. Maybe so on the tactical versions? Da gun gotta fit.

 

[Sawney Bean]

Can you load it with an empty chamber rotated into firing position? And physically spin it a click over to ready if needed?

This reminds me of what is actually my #1 issue with airguns. Keeping them loaded and at the ready without being chambered or cocked for an extended duration. Regardless of bolt action or semi auto, solving this problem would be huge.

That's not really a very good solution since the magazine holds 19 rounds, (in .22), and they are mostly hidden, so knowing which one was empty and in firing position likely wouldn't work out that well.

It's a hell of a good gun, but I think it's also the most hazardous gun I own.

 

[sb327]

I cannot see how the sear block safety on the Huben is less safe than any of the trigger block safeties on so many other guns. The desire to keep any gun loaded and at the ready comes with certain precautions. And I mean at the ready, not with a bolt pulled back or no mag, etc.

This is only my opinion of the type of safety used. Not meant as an argument because people will only be comfortable with certain designs. Similar to people’s opinions on how to safely carry a 1911…

Dave

 

[JDGriz]

Sorry guys, it's called planned obsolescence...

We are NOT your average airgun owners, we are enthusiasts and only top shelf companies understand that we will buy several guns and shoot them all!

The manufactures that make/sell mid level and below (yes, Crosman too) want you to buy another gun instead of fixing your old gun.

For new designs it is most likely "The last 10% of a project take 90% of the time". The easiest way to cut costs is to cut those last 10% - this is the part of diminishing returns. This is not necessarily a bad thing, as long as improvements continue after the product has shipped.

 

[JDGriz]

Barrels which are not screwed in the reciever, with an extra locking nut on the outside, are not well-supported barrels which will always point in the same direction relative to optics mounted on the receiver.
The actual contact points of set screws (where this is used to hold a barrel in the receiver) could be jarred to be slightly different every shot.