The tank is 14 liter scba usually refilled to max that a YH can safely handleabout 4300 psi
Where did you get the tank and how much do they cost?
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Where did you get the tank and how much do they cost?
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Huma externally adjustable regulator, I set mine to 185 bars. The tank is 14 liter scba usually refilled to max that a YH can safely handle
https://www.huma-air.com/Externally-Adjustable-Inline-PCP-Regulator-With-Integrated-Fillset
I have been filling to 4500 psi but I think i am going to cease this , and bring it down to right around 4300. Only rifle I have with a 4500 fill is my Katran and that gets so many shots if I filled it to say 4300 Id not even notice a difference.
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Airtanksplus.com (courtesy of @bigragu) https://airtanksplus.com/product/regman2-external-pcp-airgun-regulator/
$444.99
Know of anyone else selling them for a comparable price? Post a link.
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Years ago I got my tanks from one older fella (diagonal side of Toronto) who bought the entire fire-station inventory on government auction (including a fire truck
). He had maybe over twenty of these tanks (the entire rack) when I visited him for pickup. I had to remove the metal backpack and mask hoses and harnesses and throw away stuff I have no use, kept the tanks only. Replaced all the valves to DIN from aliexpress.Upvote 0
Ezana4CE and others who are knowledgeable.
Looks like there are much much cheaper brands that are made in the USA.
Is this one safe? Dumb question says not for oxygen so what's it for?
Assumed that oxygen means for human breathing.
If using a Yong Heng any way it's not putting out breathable air any way.
Stainless steel?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324994795006
There are others 6000 psi adjustable regulators selling for $50 or less don't know what out put though.
What makes the $400 to $500 gold color regulators different besides the higher prices?
Looks like there are much much cheaper brands that are made in the USA.
Is this one safe? Dumb question says not for oxygen so what's it for?
Assumed that oxygen means for human breathing.
If using a Yong Heng any way it's not putting out breathable air any way.
Stainless steel?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324994795006
There are others 6000 psi adjustable regulators selling for $50 or less don't know what out put though.
What makes the $400 to $500 gold color regulators different besides the higher prices?
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@Batman2 I am not knowledgeable in this area. However, I am aware of certain products from communicating with other more experienced members. A while back @bigragu discussed a tethering setup with me and his experience using it. He turned me on to the site and products I posted a link to. I’ve also looked them up and watched some videos. That’s the extent of my knowledge.
You posed a good question. I’m waiting so see the responses.
You posed a good question. I’m waiting so see the responses.
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The ebay regulator is not a "cheap" regulator. It looks to be used and they person doesn't know the real value. Search the Mfg name and p/n. I found one at a distributor online for nearly $1K. It would be fine for HPA. "Not for Oxygen" is different. Pure Oxygen take some precautions because it can cause things to burn, that would not normally burn.
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My take on why one costs $89 vs one for $400, is not an engineering or scientific type of answer, but of logic- you get what you pay for.
I can almost guarantee if you go into a reputable welding supply house and browse the isle with their regulators that are made of quality you will see that these tethering regulators from Airtanksplus are not so far off in price. Good regulators cost $$. There’s a reason your metal shop teacher in junior high either spent two hours telling you what not to do when adjusting them or didn’t allow students to touch them.
ATP, like all vendors will have their markup, which is acceptable as they need to make a living, too, but I’m sure it’s not much. I, too, went and researched other makers of this gold style tethering reg and what do you know? Same if not more in cost from ATP’s price.
ATP no longer sells the gold model. Their 2nd version is now black with better guages that read both in bar and psi, and it costs more than the typical $400 price for these. They also now have the Regboy, I believe, which is tank mounted vs remote, and costs more. When compared to the less expensive Huma one, it’s easy to adjust without pulling the reg off, it acts as a fill station, and can now be locked so if you ask someone to fill your gun to 250 bar he can leave that tank valve open as long as he wants, and it’s going to stop at 250 bar and stay there.
Again, I understand the price hike with the customer anodizing with company logo and the two superior guages. I just need to make up my mind how much do I really want a tethering set up. You can get a less expensive Huma one or one that’s locked in the pressure output, but there, you get what you pay for. Not easy to adjust on the fly, and your locked in to whatever connection to the tank that you buy it in. You buy one with a DIN connection and you scored on some SCBA tanks with the CGA347 ends, well that’s $50-$75 for an adapter to go from CGA347 to DIN. The gold type set up I have I can use anytime with any style tank as it’s not mounted to the tank. Very easily adjustable and to service when needed.
I look at my investment as one of if not the best investment I’ve made towards this hobby as it helps me to tune a pcp and I don’t waste air and time from bleeding and refilling my gun. It keeps a constant steady pressure vs the poor man’s tethering set up of leaving the fill hose connected and every so often open up the valve to refill the gun. The problem with doing it that way, until your Tanks pressure is equal to your guns pressure you have to keep filling a f closing the valve, which really isn’t considered shooting tethered. All your saving is wasted air from bleeding and wasted moves. True tethering is gun pressure equal to tank pressure and no drop in pressure while shooting until you’ve exhausted the pressure to maintain equal with your gun, and the needle on the gage starts to drop. Then it’s time to top off the tank.
yes, the tethering regulstor, a quality built one, isn’t cheap. You get what you invest in for sure.
Quality. It comes with a price. Anyone that’s been in this hobby awhile knows anything of quality from compressors, to guns, all the way down to the ammo, costs.
I can almost guarantee if you go into a reputable welding supply house and browse the isle with their regulators that are made of quality you will see that these tethering regulators from Airtanksplus are not so far off in price. Good regulators cost $$. There’s a reason your metal shop teacher in junior high either spent two hours telling you what not to do when adjusting them or didn’t allow students to touch them.
ATP, like all vendors will have their markup, which is acceptable as they need to make a living, too, but I’m sure it’s not much. I, too, went and researched other makers of this gold style tethering reg and what do you know? Same if not more in cost from ATP’s price.
ATP no longer sells the gold model. Their 2nd version is now black with better guages that read both in bar and psi, and it costs more than the typical $400 price for these. They also now have the Regboy, I believe, which is tank mounted vs remote, and costs more. When compared to the less expensive Huma one, it’s easy to adjust without pulling the reg off, it acts as a fill station, and can now be locked so if you ask someone to fill your gun to 250 bar he can leave that tank valve open as long as he wants, and it’s going to stop at 250 bar and stay there.
Again, I understand the price hike with the customer anodizing with company logo and the two superior guages. I just need to make up my mind how much do I really want a tethering set up. You can get a less expensive Huma one or one that’s locked in the pressure output, but there, you get what you pay for. Not easy to adjust on the fly, and your locked in to whatever connection to the tank that you buy it in. You buy one with a DIN connection and you scored on some SCBA tanks with the CGA347 ends, well that’s $50-$75 for an adapter to go from CGA347 to DIN. The gold type set up I have I can use anytime with any style tank as it’s not mounted to the tank. Very easily adjustable and to service when needed.
I look at my investment as one of if not the best investment I’ve made towards this hobby as it helps me to tune a pcp and I don’t waste air and time from bleeding and refilling my gun. It keeps a constant steady pressure vs the poor man’s tethering set up of leaving the fill hose connected and every so often open up the valve to refill the gun. The problem with doing it that way, until your Tanks pressure is equal to your guns pressure you have to keep filling a f closing the valve, which really isn’t considered shooting tethered. All your saving is wasted air from bleeding and wasted moves. True tethering is gun pressure equal to tank pressure and no drop in pressure while shooting until you’ve exhausted the pressure to maintain equal with your gun, and the needle on the gage starts to drop. Then it’s time to top off the tank.
yes, the tethering regulstor, a quality built one, isn’t cheap. You get what you invest in for sure.
Quality. It comes with a price. Anyone that’s been in this hobby awhile knows anything of quality from compressors, to guns, all the way down to the ammo, costs.
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This last line is something I learned very very quick, been in this hobby for 8 months. Within 2-3 this was very apparent.
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Just a little correction, the Huma is an adjustable regulator, I set mine to #2 and maxing at 185 bars. I have converted all my scba tanks to a DIN so all my fittings are interchangeable, I got rid of a mess and extra parts. Btw I am not a Huma sales person I was just saying the Huma is a good value in contrast to some high priced regulators, and I am really picky with understanding the elevated prices, that saying "what you paid for it" is many times just not justified in my eyes.
You can pre-set the pressure range #1 or #2 or #3 before you connect, Copy paste from website:
The outgoing pressure range can stepless being adjusted from the outside, withing the pressure ranges below, by turning the bronze ring.
1: 70-125 bar
2: 100-200 bar
3: 180-250 bar
Within these settings the regulator can be set stepless in pressure. The standard setting is “2” in the pressure output range 100-200 bar.
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I am curious if you're overall happy with the Huma inline reg? I've thought about getting one for shooting and fine tuning my Texans, but I just keep the line connected and crack the tank to desired pressure. The Huma is the one I am considering as it is simple and clean. Within the step you're set at, I am assuming you just adjust the knob for your desired pressure...is this correct?
Also, do you find it as consistent as their website claims once adjusted, especially if jumping around with pressure settings within the selected step?
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My first regulator was the Huma. It is a nice piece of craftsmanship. I did find that it was slow to recover to the set pressure which slowed benchrest shooting and consistent velocities. I then bought the lower priced Gold regulator sold by Aqua Environment 415-5000 regulator. It is way above the function of the Huma, but it is like 3 times bigger which is probably why it performs better. The 1372-5000 regulator performs better over a wider range of input pressures as the SCBA tank pressure lowers during use. It really does come down to you get what you pay for in performance. It mattered to me because I am trying to reduce variables for consistency /accuracy.
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I have the AUQA gold 6000 psi reg setup. It’s not cheep. But it works excellent. I like the idea of using in and out fill whips with the QD Foster fittings. What I didn’t like was having to backoff the valve all the way after closing the tank to change tanks. So I added a lever release valve to bleed off the fill whip. Saved having to keep resetting to the same fill pressure after changing tanks.
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I am happy, it works well and it is a no brainer. I pre-set mine the max to be at 185 bars and acts as a pre-Reg to my Impact 135 bar. Since I started tethering I made about 7-8K shots or something like that, I am just noticing on my credit card the purchases.
You just turn the brass piece whatever pressure you want. Only note...that the gauge will turn with the brass piece and happened to me as well the gauge was facing the tank. but there is an instruction, I loosened the setscrew and turn around the brass piece this how I got the max 185 bar vs 200 as is the #2 factory setting.
Now, there was another comment somewhere above about recovery time....I didn't even knew something like this exist with the Huma. But I must say there was a gen1 about a year + ago and mine is a gen2 regulator I got this one early summer 2021. I can recall seeing two gens at the time of purchase, bot we similar but a closer look and you could see a difference on the ring.
My Impact MK2 internal Reg 135 bars and with a Huma pre-Reg at 185 bars, the standard deviation 1.5
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I found more in brand new un used condition from some place else with out the guages and no connectors just threaded holes and regulator body with the big knob selling for $50. They have over 100 in stock.
Looks like some one bought that $75 stainless steel USA made 6000 psi adjustable regulator from eBay and paid the $99 buy it now price after I posted that link in the nick of time right before it expired.
I would think it would be good to use in between a tank to refill the gun with out worry about over filling it.
Or fill to the sweet spot I have read about numerous instances of regulated PcP guns having their sweet fill pressure spot for best accuracy not filling them all the way.
I found more in brand new un used condition from some place else with out the guages and no connectors just threaded holes and regulator body with the big knob selling for $50. They have over 100 in stock.
Looks like some one bought that $75 stainless steel USA made 6000 psi adjustable regulator from eBay and paid the $99 buy it now price after I posted that link in the nick of time right before it expired.
I would think it would be good to use in between a tank to refill the gun with out worry about over filling it.
Or fill to the sweet spot I have read about numerous instances of regulated PcP guns having their sweet fill pressure spot for best accuracy not filling them all the way.
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That one would be good for running my 3000 psi fill guns tethered to my 4500 scba tanks
I bought it in the nick of time lol I had to
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Speaking of size, I got the one off ebay yesterday
That's my actual hat I wear next to it lol
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Speaking of size, I got the one off ebay yesterday
That's my actual hat I wear next to it lol
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Speaking of size, I got the one off ebay yesterday
That's my actual hat I wear next to it lol
He who posted it is aware, nor did he state he was going to buy it. I do not miss opportunities, I see one, I take it. The auction had actually ended before I could buy, but I found it again after it was relisted. It is what it is haha
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I hear this "you get what you pay for crap" all the time. You don't need to pay for options that you don't need. I've been using the Altaros external reg for more than five years and it has performed perfectly for the job that I require without fault. If you think that something costing four times as much will serve you better, then knock yourself out and waste your hard-earned. Most regulators are based on scuba technology and are designed to operate in a relatively narrow pressure range but can be easily reconfigured to dispense at a higher or lower range. An adjustment screw or knob will let you set the precise pressure that you ultimately decide to settle on. I find that both my unregulated PCPs perform best at around 170-180 BAR so there is no need to fiddle with the adjustment screw once set. If you are using a regulated gun, you can tether without the need for an external reg at all. I can't vouch for the Huma inline model but my Altaros unit uses the same technology and it replenishes instantly.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpTFw7icm_U
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