Introducing the Element Immersive Series 👀

[Pfddi]

@Wilco it took about 10 days to reach me. They sent it USPS. Packed well. Will take it to the range today. It shipped with 2 yardage tapes to stick on the parallax wheel, so it is expected to use the parallax to range. I thought I would try it for FT also as I like the no relief scopes and the wider field of view. It comes with 3 rails that will mount on both picatinny and dovetail rails. I have the medium on and it may be a stretch for the bullpup. But it should be no problem with the longer. And all 3 have elevation at 20 MOA steps each way which is very nice.

 

[Wilco]

@Wilco it took about 10 days to reach me. They sent it USPS. Packed well. Will take it to the range today. It shipped with 2 yardage tapes to stick on the parallax wheel, so it is expected to use the parallax to range. I thought I would try it for FT also as I like the no relief scopes and the wider field of view. It comes with 3 rails that will mount on both picatinny and dovetail rails. I have the medium on and it may be a stretch for the bullpup. But it should be no problem with the longer. And all 3 have elevation at 20 MOA steps each way which is very nice.

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Thanks for taking the time to answer and the cool pic. I asked since the vendors web site has some confusing data. It showed a "preorder" on the order button but then below it in a box it said "IN STOCK". I also read some feedback from a AN member that was not encouraging about this vendor. The only other shipped source for this scope was out of Europe (Optics Trade) and they said it would be 3 to 4 months before restocking. I've spent days researching this and saw that you had no issues so thought I'd give it a shot, finger crossed. Since Element will be selling their Immersion versions I'm also afraid these may become obsolete. Element's Immersion version of the 5X30, for example is $643.92 US (497.99 pounds) according to airguns101.com so I'm afraid anything comparable will become overpriced. It looks great on your rig looking forward to reading your thoughts post range visit.

 

[Pfddi]

Well I wasn't completely straight forward with you. I did go to their customer service and sent an email requesting the tracking number per the invoice saying one was created. I've been doing this too long and I always use the "trust but verify" paradigm! So they sent me the tracking number which just said the label was created. It took another 2-3 days for them to finally ship and I got all the delivery notifications from USPS. A little bit of extra work but worth it for the price difference as you said and the delay from Europe! And my usual European dealers didn't carry it. For the money, it is a nice "piece of kit" as the Brits say!

 

[SDstephan]

Thanks RScott - will take you experience and Pfddi's into further consideration

 

[bigHUN]

The ranging with IO 14x50 worked great, precise to say it. Now about focus handle wheel I was using a lever style so no need for a large wheel. But as you can see from the picture to get a comfortable eye relif in relation to pull length I had to use a reworked 1/2" elevation piece in order to move it backwards on my L2.

But for 50 M/Y distance I would say the 14 power is short to shoot it FT handheld...
Again, I got used to high magnification scopes shooting my BR, for 100M and I am zooming in all the way to the ring center...and there is a reason why to have high magnification. Field T/H is a bit different game but I think the x16 still on the bottom line.

 

[Wilco]

Well I wasn't completely straight forward with you. I did go to their customer service and sent an email requesting the tracking number per the invoice saying one was created. I've been doing this too long and I always use the "trust but verify" paradigm! So they sent me the tracking number which just said the label was created. It took another 2-3 days for them to finally ship and I got all the delivery notifications from USPS. A little bit of extra work but worth it for the price difference as you said and the delay from Europe! And my usual European dealers didn't carry it. For the money, it is a nice "piece of kit" as the Brits say!

No problem. I'll follow up with them if or when needed, To be fare their website said it "ships in 2 weeks" so if you received yours within 10 days you did well.

 

[bigHUN]

So, what is the actual difference between the Element IO and the "original" IO which was the strip down MTC ?

 

[Wilco]

So, what is the actual difference between the Element IO and the "original" IO which was the strip down MTC ?

I believe the two main differences I could find between the Immersive and the Element Immersive Series is the turret and reticle markings., Immersive uses a screw on/off cap and the Element Immersive is open or has no cap with the MIL click markings readable without removing a cap. Also the reticle markings are different since Element has a standard they use on all theirs. I don't own an Element scope so I can't swear to that. Element's have flip style scope lens covers also. Price of Element's IO version of 5X30 is $643.92 (497.99 pounds) compared to IO's 5X30 @$317.00 US.

 

[Nutcracker]

I have 5 of the Immersive, & one MTC Atom. I like the 10 powers best. The 14 power is great but too heavy and makes my Impact top-heavy. I wish I could get a 14 in smaller tube.

 

[Pfddi]

@bigHUN is correct about a precise parallax. I went to the range today and sited it in a 30 yards and had another target at 50. The focus was very crisp and I had no problem at all dumping pellet on pellet at 50 yards. I was hitting shotgun shells and spent brass at 55 yards. I will setup my new Paul Porch targets tomorrow and try a little HFT shooting to see how it fares. So far I'm very pleased. It will certainly be a good pester scope. I'll get it out to 100 yards also tomorrow and see how I fare.

 

[Wilco]

@bigHUN is correct about a precise parallax. I went to the range today and sited it in a 30 yards and had another target at 50. The focus was very crisp and I had no problem at all dumping pellet on pellet at 50 yards. I was hitting shotgun shells and spent brass at 55 yards. I will setup my new Paul Porch targets tomorrow and try a little HFT shooting to see how it fares. So far I'm very pleased. It will certainly be a good pester scope. I'll get it out to 100 yards also tomorrow and see how I fare.

Good to know!

 

[SDstephan]

@bigHUN is correct about a precise parallax. I went to the range today and sited it in a 30 yards and had another target at 50. The focus was very crisp and I had no problem at all dumping pellet on pellet at 50 yards. I was hitting shotgun shells and spent brass at 55 yards. I will setup my new Paul Porch targets tomorrow and try a little HFT shooting to see how it fares. So far I'm very pleased. It will certainly be a good pester scope. I'll get it out to 100 yards also tomorrow and see how I fare.

you guys are about to make me regret buying a Sightron scope
please let us know about the HFT practice - this may put me over the edge.

 

[Joedirt199]

I guess the Element name adds more money than the MTC and Immersive versions can make. Hard to justify that on a reticle and turret knob change. Better be some higher end glass barried in there too.

 

[Pfddi]

Shot the Uragan at 100 yards yesterday with the IO 14x50. Focus was very clear with the great FOV, just at 14x, so nothing like my 30x scopes! But I was able to group well considering I'm a shaky old fart (2" with the wind). I had a bipod on the front and shot with and without a bag on the rear. Wind was bursting and holding at 14mph so that didn't help much for just testing the accuracy of the scope and gun. The temp was 100 so I just went out to put the targets up and didn't walk back out and take pictures of the targets! The sun and I are no longer friends after a bout with melanoma. Could I shoot EFT with it? Probably not, but I'm considering having JD make a wheel for me like @RScott mentioned for HFT. I have to say again that the Uragan is shooting fabulously after @zx10walls tune.

I will move the scope over to my 177 Wolverine R and setup my HFT targets and give it a whirl next week.

 

[Wilco]

Shot the Uragan at 100 yards yesterday with the IO 14x50. Focus was very clear with the great FOV, just at 14x, so nothing like my 30x scopes! But I was able to group well considering I'm a shaky old fart (2" with the wind). I had a bipod on the front and shot with and without a bag on the rear. Wind was bursting and holding at 14mph so that didn't help much for just testing the accuracy of the scope and gun. The temp was 100 so I just went out to put the targets up and didn't walk back out and take pictures of the targets! The sun and I are no longer friends after a bout with melanoma. Could I shoot EFT with it? Probably not, but I'm considering having JD make a wheel for me like @RScott mentioned for HFT. I have to say again that the Uragan is shooting fabulously after @zx10walls tune.

I will move the scope over to my 177 Wolverine R and setup my HFT targets and give it a whirl next week.

Sounds good. Copy on the Sun thing, been there done that, no fun at all. I bought the 14X50 for pesting and plunking so anything over 50 or 60 yards is kind of rare for me but it's nice to know it can hang with the high power stuff to. I have other scopes for target and range shooting so this will fit the bill nicely.

 

[Dairyboy]

Lol I find it funny how many people prefer the high power optics. Wouldn't think they'd be interested in these scopes.

I use 8-10x out to 100yds regularly when pesting. I'd be interested in one of these 10x ones but not sure I'd like the zero eye relief.

 

[QualityGuru]

My Immersive was $377. I bought it at https://sportsandoutdoors.enrils.com/

It came in today and I have it mounted on my Uragan 25. I used the "medium" rail and may make it the larger one to back it up a bit more, but I will shoot wit it first tomorrow. Impressed with the glass quality like @bigHUN said. Reticle looks good and it came with a parallax marking tape for you r yardage! Illumination was also good. I will try and add the Pard NV007s to is and see how it fares.

New to the board, as I am looking to get into air guns. I looked into getting the Element Immersive 5X Prism scope and looked at the link you provided. I looked under the contact us info within their web page and saw no telephone number, so I googled their posted address. If you look at their posted address within Google Maps:

304 S Jones Blvd · 304 S Jones Blvd, Las Vegas, NV 89107

Building

www.google.com

You will get a house/office with a sign that states PhysicalAddress.com.

Sorry to say this seems VERY suspicious. Add to the fact that every scope listed comes up as limited inventory, order soon. If anyone else has purchased from Sports and Outdoors and knows their customer service number, please provide it. Otherwise it looks like a scam.

 

[Pfddi]

The link I gave you only sold Immersive optics not the Element branded immersive, so if you want an Element you may want to look elsewhere.

I bought my IO 14x50 from these guys. I did ask for the tracking number as I said in an above post. Did it arrive lickity split? No. Did it arrive? Yes.

I used Paypal for this in case I had to go back on the vendor for not delivering or delivering something I didn't order. And yes their site says "preorder" but they had items in stock so I'll chalk that up to a s***y website.

Once the tracking # was delivered I was updated constantly through delivery. Would I buy from them again? Probably, but with my expectations set correctly.

 

[QualityGuru]

The link I gave you only sold Immersive optics not the Element branded immersive, so if you want an Element you may want to look elsewhere.

I bought my IO 14x50 from these guys. I did ask for the tracking number as I said in an above post. Did it arrive lickity split? No. Did it arrive? Yes.

I used Paypal for this in case I had to go back on the vendor for not delivering or delivering something I didn't order. And yes their site says "preorder" but they had items in stock so I'll chalk that up to a s***y website.

Once the tracking # was delivered I was updated constantly through delivery. Would I buy from them again? Probably, but with my expectations set correctly.

Thanks for the update. I did find them available on optics-trade.eu, but have not ordered from them yet. I’m still up in air between the IMMERSIVE SERIES and the recent release of the Arken 1-8 which claims to have Japanese glass.

 

[Pfddi]

@QualityGuru - The Arken looks good! I have an EPL4- 6x24 that I really like. It has the eye relief of a traditional scope. I actually like the "almost zero" eye relief of the Immersive/Element and even MTC prismatics. Some do, some don't. I got the 14 power to see if it would be good for HFT. It will work well for plinking/pesting to 100 yards! I do wish it was a bit lighter as I get older I seem to want a lighter guy for the field!